Merry Christmas

Cynicor wrote:
Annika1980 wrote:
Harry Stottle wrote:

Not a problem for us atheists, we don't believe in the devil either,
which is why these scare stories written to try and make us conform,
will never work.

So what stops an atheist from just going around stealing and killing
people they don't like?

What stops a Christian from doing the same?

If you really want to know what God has to say, listen to our
president. Bush says that God speaks through him.

Bush has never said that.

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David J. Littleboy wrote:

Most religions tell you that you're damned if you don't believe their
particular flavor of religion, and they can't all be right. And there's no
way to tell which is right.

None are right. They are all creations of man and they all indoctrinate
their "followers" from early childhood in order to guarantee growing
generations of followers. All of them at one point or another used
violence in the furtherance of the religion as "God's will"

An atheist is not evil by definition and does recognize and practice a
moral code of conduct. The Golden Rule is not reserved for "believers".

Cheers,
Alan

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Mark² wrote:
Cynicor wrote:

If you really want to know what God has to say, listen to our
president. Bush says that God speaks through him.


Bush has never said that.

1) http://www.irregulartimes.com/godspeaksthroughme.html

2) A heresay account:

In Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series on BBC
TWO (at 9.00pm on Monday 10, Monday 17 and Monday 24 October), Abu
Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign
Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003.

Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a
mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those
terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me,
"George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I
feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and
get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And
by God I'm gonna do it.'"

3) During his presidential campaign, George W. Bush said he'd been
`called' to seek higher office and talked openly about his faith
http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?sid=808

etc.




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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:34:01 +0900, David J. Littleboy wrote:

If the atheists are right,there's no problem.
If they are wrong...

Even if the atheists are wrong, they'll have lots of company in Hell.

Most religions tell you that you're damned if you don't believe their
particular flavor of religion, and they can't all be right. And there's no
way to tell which is right.

It doesn't follow that even *one* may be right. If and when one
arrives, God may say to its leader, Mr. Right (can't be female,
eh?), "Tag. You're It. I've been waiting eons for this, thank you
very much, and as Groucho once sang, 'I must be going'."

ASAAR wrote:

[...]

Are you all aware that you are broadcasting this nonsense to many groups
where such BS is considered inappropriate?

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:01:28 +0100, Q.G. de Bakker wrote:

[...]

Are you all aware that you are broadcasting this nonsense to many groups
where such BS is considered inappropriate?

Are you aware . . . No, I don't think that you are.

Mark² wrote:
Cynicor wrote:
Annika1980 wrote:
Harry Stottle wrote:

Not a problem for us atheists, we don't believe in the devil either,
which is why these scare stories written to try and make us conform,
will never work.
So what stops an atheist from just going around stealing and killing
people they don't like?
What stops a Christian from doing the same?

If you really want to know what God has to say, listen to our
president. Bush says that God speaks through him.

Bush has never said that.

He has said it several times, to several groups. The White House claims
that both the Amish and the Palestinians somehow misunderstood him the
same way.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101301688.html

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:52:05 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

Mark² wrote:
Cynicor wrote:

If you really want to know what God has to say, listen to our
president. Bush says that God speaks through him.


Bush has never said that.

1) http://www.irregulartimes.com/godspeaksthroughme.html

2) A heresay account:

In Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series on BBC
TWO (at 9.00pm on Monday 10, Monday 17 and Monday 24 October), Abu
Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign
Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003.

Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a
mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those
terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me,
"George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I
feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and
get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And
by God I'm gonna do it.'"

3) During his presidential campaign, George W. Bush said he'd been
`called' to seek higher office and talked openly about his faith
http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?sid=808

etc.

Saying that Bush said that God speaks to him is different from saying
that Bush said God speaks through him.
--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"

Alan Browne wrote:
Mark² wrote:
Cynicor wrote:

If you really want to know what God has to say, listen to our
president. Bush says that God speaks through him.


Bush has never said that.

1) http://www.irregulartimes.com/godspeaksthroughme.html

2) A heresay account:

In Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series on BBC
TWO (at 9.00pm on Monday 10, Monday 17 and Monday 24 October), Abu
Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign
Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003.

Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a
mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those
terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me,
"George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I
feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and
get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And
by God I'm gonna do it.'"

3) During his presidential campaign, George W. Bush said he'd been
`called' to seek higher office and talked openly about his faith
http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?sid=808

etc.




This part:

In Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, a major three-part series on BBC
TWO (at 9.00pm on Monday 10, Monday 17 and Monday 24 October), Abu
Mazen, Palestinian Prime Minister, and Nabil Shaath, his Foreign
Minister, describe their first meeting with President Bush in June 2003.

Doesn't give you a clue?

And just because a person has a religious faith, be in Islam, Christian,
Jewish, or Shinto, doesn't mean he thinks "God speaks through him."
Your anti religious bias is showing.

ASAAR wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:34:01 +0900, David J. Littleboy wrote:

If the atheists are right,there's no problem.
If they are wrong...
Even if the atheists are wrong, they'll have lots of company in Hell.

Most religions tell you that you're damned if you don't believe their
particular flavor of religion, and they can't all be right. And there's no
way to tell which is right.

It doesn't follow that even *one* may be right. If and when one
arrives, God may say to its leader, Mr. Right (can't be female,
eh?), "Tag. You're It. I've been waiting eons for this, thank you
very much, and as Groucho once sang, 'I must be going'."

Me thinks some of these guys need to read "Stranger in a Strange Land".