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Chris Loffredo wrote:
wrote: I do not want to go digital. I have a digital camera and I prefer 35mm cameras much more. There is more of an appeal to them than digital beside my father brought me up with 35mm cameras so it's in my blood. Just need to learn more about them. But isn't that always the case.. you take for granted things you could have learned from your parents when they were alive. Again, suggestions for cameras would be highly appreciated! You could consider getting used equipment. Because of digital, used film cameras have reached record low prices: $500 can get you quite a lot. On the minus side you will probably be giving up on any guarantee or even manufacturer servicing, but then any camera repairperson can fix a mechanical camera. I use several cameras/systems and none of my cameras is less than 20 years old, but I've never had to do more than the occasional CLA. My own recomendations (all manual focus): Nikon (F2, FM, FE, FM2, FE2, FM3A) - Reliability Contax - Zeiss lenses But then most Canons, Minoltas, Olympuses & Pentaxes should be fully satisfying. Correcting my own reply: For sports I'd reccommend a top shutter speed of at least 1/2000 or 1/4000. That eliminates the Nikon FM & FE. |
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wrote in message ... I'm new to SLR cameras and photography but would like to get involved and soon develop my own pictures and so fourth later on. I am also going to be taking a class soon as well to help but right now I need some help picking out the right SLR camera to buy. I don't want to buy bottom of the line camera but also don't want to buy the top of the line since they can be expensive. I'm looking at spending no more than 500.00 on the body. What I want to be able to do is take pictures at baseball games where I'll need to be able to take multiple pictures quickly to get the right shot of a ball being hit off a bat or in mid air being released from a pitcher. I will also be taking everyday pictures of outdoors wildlife and indoor pics of people. Your help and recommendations are extremely appreciated. Jim Every year for about 20 yrs., I've taken headshots at the NYC marathon. Many years have produced poor results, due to the wrong cameras. Dreaded shutter lag.So forget those. The consistently best results were with a Nikon FM-2/ motor, Pentax KM, Ricoh XR 1s/2s/motor. The motors on Single. I focus on a line or sewer plate, and fire when they're 2-3 feet away. 1/250 or 1/500 is fast enough, and a small flash is enough to isolate the runner. Simple. After many years, I ebayed the Nikon. The clack-zap was getting really annoying, and the Ricohs and Pentaxes use the same lenses. Figuring shutter lag/runner distance only takes a few practice frames. All in all, I,ve gotten my highest keeper ratio and longevity fron the old Pentaxes. Besides, they're a joy to use. Bought a state of the art AF pentax once. It's amazing how they can pack so much aggravation into such a small plastic box. Sold it after about 5-6 rolls. Bob Hickey |
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Chris Loffredo writes:
You could consider getting used equipment. Because of digital, used film cameras have reached record low prices: $500 can get you quite a lot. You should be able to get a EOS-1n for that price. Ideal would be a RS, but you would be lucky to find one for your price. -- Paul Repacholi 1 Crescent Rd., +61 (08) 9257-1001 Kalamunda. West Australia 6076 comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked. EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be. |
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Based on that, you could get a Minolta Maxxum 7 -- not the 7D digital, but
the film camera it was based on. It still has faster AF than most cameras on the market, as far as I know, in spite of it being introduced in fall 2000. It handles well, it's not too heavy, and as you get more experience, it's got the features you'd want. They're getting harder to find, and the "Maxxum 70" is a replacement for the Maxxum 5, not the 7. KEH usually has a few used bodies in good shape. I've been ordering lenses from them for years with no trouble. They may only have the Dynax 7 (European) unit at this point. Some other folks may still have them in stock. Coupled with a 5600HS-D flash and a AF-D 24-105mm f/3.5-4.5 lens, you'd be able to do the indoor stuf, family events, etc. You'd get really good flash results. A Tamron 28-200 lens can be very convenient as well, and pretty cheap. It doesn't support the newer flash metering mode (the D in the designation), but with the Maxxum 7 having flash compensation, you can drop the flash exposure down -1, -1.5, -2 for the results you want. I leave mine at -1 most of the time. For baseball (with a tripod), it's easy to get a used 70-210 f/4 lens (make sure it's the F/4!) -- if that isn't long enough, for under $400 you can get a 500mm f/8.0 Reflex from keh.com (they'd likely have the 70-210 as well). It's a catodioptric lens design, so it's only about 4.5" long and weighs a pound and a half. The downside? At f/8 you'd need good light and a fast film, and the minimum focusing distance is 13 feet or so. If you're doing "everyday wildlife", you can get good results with the two "shorter" lenses above. The 500 f/8 would be great in the right situation, but you'd probably want to plan the siutation where you'd be using it. You're going to get a lot of folks going on about image stabilization lenses from Canon or Nikon. Forget it -- if you're doing this on a budget, you're not going to be able to afford it. You'd be better off investing in a good tripod. If you ever do, say, decide that you need a $5,000 Canon IS lens, the cost of an additional body at that point is not all that significant. That 70-210 f/4 lens is a gem - sharp and nice contrast. It's heavy, and it's not too fast to focus (although on a Maxxum 7 it's not bad, since the AF performance of the camera is so good). On 30-Dec-04 21:36, wrote: I'm new to SLR cameras and photography but would like to get involved and soon develop my own pictures and so fourth later on. I am also going to be taking a class soon as well to help but right now I need some help picking out the right SLR camera to buy. I don't want to buy bottom of the line camera but also don't want to buy the top of the line since they can be expensive. I'm looking at spending no more than 500.00 on the body. What I want to be able to do is take pictures at baseball games where I'll need to be able to take multiple pictures quickly to get the right shot of a ball being hit off a bat or in mid air being released from a pitcher. I will also be taking everyday pictures of outdoors wildlife and indoor pics of people. Your help and recommendations are extremely appreciated. Jim |
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Based on that, you could get a Minolta Maxxum 7 -- not the 7D digital, but
the film camera it was based on. It still has faster AF than most cameras on the market, as far as I know, in spite of it being introduced in fall 2000. It handles well, it's not too heavy, and as you get more experience, it's got the features you'd want. They're getting harder to find, and the "Maxxum 70" is a replacement for the Maxxum 5, not the 7. KEH usually has a few used bodies in good shape. I've been ordering lenses from them for years with no trouble. They may only have the Dynax 7 (European) unit at this point. Some other folks may still have them in stock. Coupled with a 5600HS-D flash and a AF-D 24-105mm f/3.5-4.5 lens, you'd be able to do the indoor stuf, family events, etc. You'd get really good flash results. A Tamron 28-200 lens can be very convenient as well, and pretty cheap. It doesn't support the newer flash metering mode (the D in the designation), but with the Maxxum 7 having flash compensation, you can drop the flash exposure down -1, -1.5, -2 for the results you want. I leave mine at -1 most of the time. For baseball (with a tripod), it's easy to get a used 70-210 f/4 lens (make sure it's the F/4!) -- if that isn't long enough, for under $400 you can get a 500mm f/8.0 Reflex from keh.com (they'd likely have the 70-210 as well). It's a catodioptric lens design, so it's only about 4.5" long and weighs a pound and a half. The downside? At f/8 you'd need good light and a fast film, and the minimum focusing distance is 13 feet or so. If you're doing "everyday wildlife", you can get good results with the two "shorter" lenses above. The 500 f/8 would be great in the right situation, but you'd probably want to plan the siutation where you'd be using it. You're going to get a lot of folks going on about image stabilization lenses from Canon or Nikon. Forget it -- if you're doing this on a budget, you're not going to be able to afford it. You'd be better off investing in a good tripod. If you ever do, say, decide that you need a $5,000 Canon IS lens, the cost of an additional body at that point is not all that significant. That 70-210 f/4 lens is a gem - sharp and nice contrast. It's heavy, and it's not too fast to focus (although on a Maxxum 7 it's not bad, since the AF performance of the camera is so good). On 30-Dec-04 21:36, wrote: I'm new to SLR cameras and photography but would like to get involved and soon develop my own pictures and so fourth later on. I am also going to be taking a class soon as well to help but right now I need some help picking out the right SLR camera to buy. I don't want to buy bottom of the line camera but also don't want to buy the top of the line since they can be expensive. I'm looking at spending no more than 500.00 on the body. What I want to be able to do is take pictures at baseball games where I'll need to be able to take multiple pictures quickly to get the right shot of a ball being hit off a bat or in mid air being released from a pitcher. I will also be taking everyday pictures of outdoors wildlife and indoor pics of people. Your help and recommendations are extremely appreciated. Jim |
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Happy Fricken New Year wrote: I concur w/ Lisa. I shoot baseball (major & minor leagues) w/ a Canon system (A2e - EOS-3 in Europe) and its been wonderful for me. Lightweight, rugged, quiet, fast and very versatile. Unfortunately the A2es have been discontinued but the Elan 7eII's have taken their place. I have yet to shoot w/ an Elan 7eII but i have heard nothing but praise about them! I sold a couple of them in my days in camera retail and my customers loved them! Also, the lenses that work on the A2e's & Elan 7eII's WILL work on Canon digital (D60's & D10's) if and when you're ready to go that route. Now you mentioned that you're willing to spend upwards of $500 for the body. My question to you is... How much are you willing to spend on your lens(es)? No matter what system you finally decide on it doesnt make sense to spend $450 on a body only to put a $150 lens on it. Consider your optics as much, if not MORE, than your camera body. Good luck and let us know what worked out for you. Happy New Year! Do note that the Euro A2E was the EOS 5, a wonderful camera, with the best on-camera flash of any model I know of. It even zooms! The EOS 3 is, basically, a replacement of the EOS 5. They both occupy the same slot in the lineup, the "bridge" camera, a camera that is suitable both for professionals and advanced amateurs. Lisa |
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"Paul Coen" wrote in message
... Based on that, you could get a Minolta Maxxum 7 -- not the 7D digital, but the film camera it was based on. It still has faster AF than most cameras on the market, as far as I know, in spite of it being introduced in fall 2000. It handles well, it's not too heavy, and as you get more experience, it's got the features you'd want. They're getting harder to find, and the "Maxxum 70" is a replacement for the Maxxum 5, not the 7. KEH usually has a few used bodies in good shape. I've been ordering lenses from them for years with no trouble. They may only have the Dynax 7 (European) unit at this point. Some other folks may still have them in stock. Coupled with a 5600HS-D flash and a AF-D 24-105mm f/3.5-4.5 lens, you'd be able to do the indoor stuf, family events, etc. You'd get really good flash results. A Tamron 28-200 lens can be very convenient as well, and pretty cheap. It doesn't support the newer flash metering mode (the D in the designation), but with the Maxxum 7 having flash compensation, you can drop the flash exposure down -1, -1.5, -2 for the results you want. I leave mine at -1 most of the time. For baseball (with a tripod), it's easy to get a used 70-210 f/4 lens (make sure it's the F/4!) -- if that isn't long enough, for under $400 you can get a 500mm f/8.0 Reflex from keh.com (they'd likely have the 70-210 as well). It's a catodioptric lens design, so it's only about 4.5" long and weighs a pound and a half. The downside? At f/8 you'd need good light and a fast film, and the minimum focusing distance is 13 feet or so. If you're doing "everyday wildlife", you can get good results with the two "shorter" lenses above. The 500 f/8 would be great in the right situation, but you'd probably want to plan the siutation where you'd be using it. You're going to get a lot of folks going on about image stabilization lenses from Canon or Nikon. Forget it -- if you're doing this on a budget, you're not going to be able to afford it. You'd be better off investing in a good tripod. If you ever do, say, decide that you need a $5,000 Canon IS lens, the cost of an additional body at that point is not all that significant. That 70-210 f/4 lens is a gem - sharp and nice contrast. It's heavy, and it's not too fast to focus (although on a Maxxum 7 it's not bad, since the AF performance of the camera is so good). I don't know about how much faster than the Canon 7Ne it is, but as far as bang for the buck, the Minolta Maxxum 7 is the most feature laden body in its price class. I recommended it to several of my friends, even though I shoot Canon. Good, rugged camera with all of the whistles and bells you may need. -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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