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Old July 30th 07, 06:51 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bill Tuthill
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Default Will the real ASAAR please stand up?

ASAAR, how can we identify your real posts?

You, one of the most trusted people in this newsgroup,
or possibly a forger, compared Photoshop negatively to its competition,
and suddenly there is a flurry of bogus postings.


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Old July 30th 07, 10:42 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 30 Jul 2007 10:51:29 -0700, Bill Tuthill wrote:

ASAAR, how can we identify your real posts?

You, one of the most trusted people in this newsgroup,
or possibly a forger, compared Photoshop negatively to its competition,
and suddenly there is a flurry of bogus postings.


Good question. I recently thought I detected a way, but I was
mistaken. Even if correct, posting that detail probably would have
allowed the forger to adjust the headers by the last remaining
amount. All I can suggest is that you go by message content. Most
of the forgeries are obviously bogus. Some of mine are extremely
unlikely for anyone that familiar with my messages to be mistaken
for forged replies. Some fit in a gray area where mine are more
difficult to tell from the forged replies. FWIW, I haven't
commented about Photoshop or Photoline 32 specifics as I've never
had a copy of either and never used anyone else's installation. I
do have PE version 4 though, bought 12 months ago, but haven't
really done more than play with it for a few minutes. Maybe when I
get my next great printer I'll start to invest some time with it.
My personal opinion of Photoshop is necessarily limited, but I'd buy
a copy in a second if it wasn't so highly priced. But I don't think
that not having it would be a great loss, as I doubt that I'd have
much of a need for more than what the underutilized PE4 offers.

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Old July 31st 07, 12:07 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Hey Bill,

I can usually tell which is which - there's a certain deep ironic humor to
the posts that reminds me of the Dark Lord Voldemort, Michael Christie aka
artistmike. He shadowed Hecate for a few weeks or months. She
over-reacted, initially, much as ASAAR did, and his rather skillful
"playing" had a negative impact on her participation. Due to health
reasons, this turned out to be her last few months on the net.

It's basically a humerous prank, but it can have an impact. ASAAR should
know that he does not have to face this alone. The best thing to do for now
is ignore the bogus replies and rely on the fact that the rest of us will
know who is who. I guarantee that if we keep responses to the fake messages
at a minimum, the imposter will get bored and go away, or start shadowing
someone else.

Another alternative would be to electronically sign the messages, at least
until the imposter stops.
--
Mike Russell - www.curvemeister.com


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Old July 31st 07, 01:42 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
ASAAR
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:07:09 -0700, Mike Russell wrote:

Another alternative would be to electronically sign the messages,
at least until the imposter stops.


That's been suggested before, so perhaps . . . Any software you'd
recommend? I have an old copy of PGP Security Suite which is no
longer supported, some of its components are not XP compatible, and
I don't think that reinstalling Win95 sounds too interesting.

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Old July 31st 07, 01:44 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Will the real ASAAR please stand up?

On Jul 30, 9:51 pm, Bill Tuthill wrote:
ASAAR, how can we identify your real posts?

You, one of the most trusted people in this newsgroup,
or possibly a forger, compared Photoshop negatively to its competition,
and suddenly there is a flurry of bogus postings.


Bill,
I don't think it's that hard to distinguish between the real and fake
posts by content and style: ASAAR's is hard to emulate. If we just
ignore the impostor, he'll get bored eventually

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Old July 31st 07, 05:41 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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ASAAR wrote:
That's been suggested before, so perhaps . . . Any software you'd
recommend? I have an old copy of PGP Security Suite which is no
longer supported, some of its components are not XP compatible, and I
don't think that reinstalling Win95 sounds too interesting.


Use GPG. Works great and is very easy. It's open source and free.

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Old July 31st 07, 06:03 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Mike Russell
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Default Will the real ASAAR please stand up?

"ASAAR" wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:07:09 -0700, Mike Russell wrote:

Another alternative would be to electronically sign the messages,
at least until the imposter stops.


That's been suggested before, so perhaps . . . Any software you'd
recommend? I have an old copy of PGP Security Suite which is no
longer supported, some of its components are not XP compatible, and
I don't think that reinstalling Win95 sounds too interesting.


The most recent (meaning five years old) free version of PGP works with XP,
and is integrated with several email and news programs.

Article on various PGP packages
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-...ion-of-pgp.htm

Downloads for various PGP 6.58 versions. Download the newest beta update
and read its text version for instructions on loading the full version.
ftp://ftp.zedz.net/pub/crypto/pgp/pgp60/pgp658_ckt/

I'll download it and play with it a bit tonight.
--
Mike Russell - www.curvemeister.com


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Old July 31st 07, 07:12 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
ASAAR
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:41:21 -0700, Desert Dweller wrote:

That's been suggested before, so perhaps . . . Any software you'd
recommend? I have an old copy of PGP Security Suite which is no
longer supported, some of its components are not XP compatible, and I
don't think that reinstalling Win95 sounds too interesting.


Use GPG. Works great and is very easy. It's open source and free.


Thanks. I'll give it a try.

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Old July 31st 07, 07:18 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
ASAAR
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Default Will the real ASAAR please stand up?

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:03:38 -0700, Mike Russell wrote:

Downloads for various PGP 6.58 versions. Download the newest beta update
and read its text version for instructions on loading the full version.
ftp://ftp.zedz.net/pub/crypto/pgp/pgp60/pgp658_ckt/

I'll download it and play with it a bit tonight.


Thanks. I'll see if I can do the same tomorrow.

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Old July 31st 07, 06:16 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bill Tuthill
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Mike Russell -move wrote:

I can usually tell which is which - there's a certain deep ironic humor to
the posts that reminds me of the Dark Lord Voldemort, Michael Christie aka
artistmike. He shadowed Hecate for a few weeks or months...


I'm trying to figure out whether ASAAR really recommended Photoline 32
over Photoshop, or whether that was a forged post. There wasn't enough
ironic humor in that post for me to distinguish.

I'm thinking that posts with header showing newsfeed.gamma.RU are fake,
so the recommendation of Photoline 32 was real. (?)

 




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