Windows 10 - Day 1

On 01/06/2016 17:04, Mayayana wrote:
| You can, of course, opt out of sending impersonal telemetry information
| back to Microsoft, whilst still retaining the benefit of security updates.
|

There are two problems with that view:

1) It requires tech aptitude, knowledge, time
and effort to keep up with these things and
actually take advantage of opt-out options.
It's spyware precisely because it's sending
back data without asking.

2) It's not actually true.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/302...-snooping.html

Numerous sources have reported on the effective
inability to actually stop Microsoft spying on Windows
10. Can it be completely stopped on Win7? I don't
know. I wouldn't trust that it can be. As the linked
article points out, MS can't be trusted. On Win7 it
*should* be possible to prevent calling home by
blocking any outgoing MS services as well as svchost.
Does that work? I'm not certain. I don't have intimate
knowledge of the networking system on Windows. No one
does, for that matter. Microsoft doesn't make it all
public, so there's no way to know whether network
communication can be completely controlled.

Will it work on Win10?
Unlikely. Not only do the Win10 terms say you have
no choice about at least some of the data. According
to reports, some of the addresses that the spyware
calls home to are hard-coded and even bypass the
HOSTS file. The recommended solution is to block
specific IPs and URLs in one's router. This gets
ridiculous quickly. It reminds me of a story about
Richard Stallman, who was giving a talk when someone
in the audience asked a question. They were having
trouble using the compiler that Stallman had written.
Stallman's response: Then write your own.

Saying that people can disable these things if they
don't like them is a Silicon Valley version of "Let them
eat cake."

It's simply saying that you may need to do a little research if you
don't like the defaults, just like any OS.

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Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

On 06/01/2016 05:20 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
In article ,
lid says...

On Thu, 26 May 2016 01:30:08 -0400, tconway
wrote:

On 5/26/2016 12:18 AM, Tony Cooper wrote:
I installed Windows 10 during the night. Goodbye Windows 7. So far.

It's actually very little change other than the START menu. My
desktop is the same, all programs except one seem to work, and no
glitches.

I lost my Tinnes Desktop Calendar, and I do rather miss it. It was up
on the desktop at all times. 10 has a calendar, but I haven't found a
way to keep it up on the desktop. I open it and then minimize it.

Dunno what all the fuss is about from the anti-10 contingent.

I have Windows 7 and was going to upgrade to W10, but I'm not allowed to
because my video drivers are too old and the manufacturer has not made
new ones that are compatible. ugh!


I've held off upgrading my wife's Win 7 "Samsung NC110 Netbook" though
I had planned to research it in the next few weeks.

Today I read

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05..._samsung_fail/

Will the pro-Win10 brigade please suggest how best I proceed?

It's a very low end 5 year old machine that the manufacturer no longer
supports. Trying to put Windows 10 on a machine that was marginal 5
years ago is going to be an exercise in frustration.

I've got machines 10-15 years old that are running Linux quite well.
Lubuntu Linux is one of many distros that is designed for under-power or
older boxes.




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Ken Hart

In article , J.
Clarke wrote:

I really don't understand this "pestering to upgrade" business that
people complain about. I got a notice, I said no, an icon was placed in
the lower left, that was it. Internet Explorer has a nag at the top,
but nobody in his right mind uses Internet Explorer if he has another
option so I see that as a non-issue.

except for mayayana, who insists it's better than edge.

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:34:51 -0400, PAS wrote:

On 6/1/2016 7:51 AM, AnthonyL wrote:
On Tue, 31 May 2016 14:15:03 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

On 31/05/2016 12:49, AnthonyL wrote:
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I've held off upgrading my wife's Win 7 "Samsung NC110 Netbook" though
I had planned to research it in the next few weeks.

Today I read

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05..._samsung_fail/

Will the pro-Win10 brigade please suggest how best I proceed?
Samsung pulled out of some markets some time back:


http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/lapt...books-3573470/

so it looks like you are stuck with Win-7 until either Samsung get their
drivers updated (as most other companies have) or you buy a new PC.
Happy to stick with Win7, just don't want the nags from m$oft.

Try Never 10 https://www.grc.com/never10.htm


Many thanks. Trust Steve Gibson to come up with something like that.
Haven't been to his site though for many a year.


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AnthonyL