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Rear back-up cameras mandated in new cars
On May 25, 2018, Whisky-dave wrote
(in ): On Thursday, 24 May 2018 21:39:06 UTC+1, Eric Stevens wrote: Snip Christians can identify the devil with whomever they like, but they didn't invent the devil. So who invented the devil ?, did he invent himself like God did ? It’s all in the mind, you know. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Rear back-up cameras mandated in new cars
On 5/25/2018 9:24 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On May 25, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:00:06 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On May 24, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): Snip Its only a few weeks since I last read 1984 and I'm damned if I can make out much of a parallel. Now try Animal Farm, and think of Trump. Sorry. I meant Animal Farm. In fact I read all his books. So have I, not recently, but many years ago. From "Down and Out in Paris”, "Homage to Catalonia”, “The Road to Wigan Pier”, "Keep The Aspidistra Flying”, and the two most usually considered, Animal Farm, and 1984. For me it might be time for a reread. You might also want to read some history books, concerning rise of dictatorships. You appear to be an intelligent person. yet you don't seem to understand the danger in placing the finger of a corrupt megalomaniac over the nuclear button. -- PeterN |
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Rear back-up cameras mandated in new cars
On May 25, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ): On 5/25/2018 9:24 AM, Savageduck wrote: On May 25, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:00:06 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On May 24, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): Snip Its only a few weeks since I last read 1984 and I'm damned if I can make out much of a parallel. Now try Animal Farm, and think of Trump. Sorry. I meant Animal Farm. In fact I read all his books. So have I, not recently, but many years ago. From "Down and Out in Paris”, "Homage to Catalonia”, “The Road to Wigan Pier”, "Keep The Aspidistra Flying”, and the two most usually considered, Animal Farm, and 1984. For me it might be time for a reread. You might also want to read some history books, concerning rise of dictatorships. You appear to be an intelligent person. yet you don't seem to understand the danger in placing the finger of a corrupt megalomaniac over the nuclear button. Who are you addressing your remark to? I have an avid interest in history, and I have a considerable library which covers the stories of many of history’s megalomaniacal, power hungry individuals, especially those of the Twentieth Century. I have read, and understand works such as “The Proud Tower" and “The Guns of August" where well intentioned alliances have hurled us into global catastrophe. I understand how that conflict led us to the facist trio of Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco, along with their mirror image, Stalin. I also understand all too well the danger of having the finger of an ignorant, corrupt, lying, megalomaniac over the nuclear button. I also fear that it will take us 20-30 years to recover from this administration, their threat to World peace, and the damage they have done to our democracy, and the environment. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Rear back-up cameras mandated in new cars
On 5/25/2018 6:07 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On May 25, 2018, PeterN wrote (in article ): On 5/25/2018 9:24 AM, Savageduck wrote: On May 25, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:00:06 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On May 24, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): Snip Its only a few weeks since I last read 1984 and I'm damned if I can make out much of a parallel. Now try Animal Farm, and think of Trump. Sorry. I meant Animal Farm. In fact I read all his books. So have I, not recently, but many years ago. From "Down and Out in Paris”, "Homage to Catalonia”, “The Road to Wigan Pier”, "Keep The Aspidistra Flying”, and the two most usually considered, Animal Farm, and 1984. For me it might be time for a reread. You might also want to read some history books, concerning rise of dictatorships. You appear to be an intelligent person. yet you don't seem to understand the danger in placing the finger of a corrupt megalomaniac over the nuclear button. Who are you addressing your remark to? Eric, I thought. I have an avid interest in history, and I have a considerable library which covers the stories of many of history’s megalomaniacal, power hungry individuals, especially those of the Twentieth Century. I have read, and understand works such as “The Proud Tower" and “The Guns of August" where well intentioned alliances have hurled us into global catastrophe. I understand how that conflict led us to the facist trio of Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco, along with their mirror image, Stalin. I also understand all too well the danger of having the finger of an ignorant, corrupt, lying, megalomaniac over the nuclear button. I also fear that it will take us 20-30 years to recover from this administration, their threat to World peace, and the damage they have done to our democracy, and the environment. As do I. -- PeterN |
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Rear back-up cameras mandated in new cars
On May 25, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ): On 5/25/2018 6:07 PM, Savageduck wrote: On May 25, 2018, PeterN wrote (in article ): On 5/25/2018 9:24 AM, Savageduck wrote: On May 25, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:00:06 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On May 24, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): Snip Its only a few weeks since I last read 1984 and I'm damned if I can make out much of a parallel. Now try Animal Farm, and think of Trump. Sorry. I meant Animal Farm. In fact I read all his books. So have I, not recently, but many years ago. From "Down and Out in Paris”, "Homage to Catalonia”, “The Road to Wigan Pier”, "Keep The Aspidistra Flying”, and the two most usually considered, Animal Farm, and 1984. For me it might be time for a reread. You might also want to read some history books, concerning rise of dictatorships. You appear to be an intelligent person. yet you don't seem to understand the danger in placing the finger of a corrupt megalomaniac over the nuclear button. Who are you addressing your remark to? Eric, I thought. Check the attributes before you respond, they will tell the full story. I have an avid interest in history, and I have a considerable library which covers the stories of many of history’s megalomaniacal, power hungry individuals, especially those of the Twentieth Century. I have read, and understand works such as “The Proud Tower" and “The Guns of August" where well intentioned alliances have hurled us into global catastrophe. I understand how that conflict led us to the facist trio of Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco, along with their mirror image, Stalin. I also understand all too well the danger of having the finger of an ignorant, corrupt, lying, megalomaniac over the nuclear button. I also fear that it will take us 20-30 years to recover from this administration, their threat to World peace, and the damage they have done to our democracy, and the environment. As do I. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Rear back-up cameras mandated in new cars
On Fri, 25 May 2018 03:11:51 -0700 (PDT), Whisky-dave
wrote: On Thursday, 24 May 2018 21:39:06 UTC+1, Eric Stevens wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2018 05:30:46 -0700 (PDT), Whisky-dave wrote: On Thursday, 24 May 2018 10:54:38 UTC+1, Eric Stevens wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2018 02:45:24 -0700 (PDT), Whisky-dave wrote: On Thursday, 24 May 2018 01:08:22 UTC+1, Eric Stevens wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2018 07:43:19 -0700 (PDT), Whisky-dave wrote: On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 14:48:02 UTC+1, Savageduck wrote: On May 23, 2018, Whisky-dave wrote (in ): On Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:53:59 UTC+1, android wrote: An act of God? I don't think soo... Try the devil! The devil can't exist without God. Neither exist without snake oil salesmen, and a receptive audience willing to be led blindly to paradise. The point was that the devil is the arch rival of God without a/the God they're can't be a devil as it was invented by christians Umm - no. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil In Christianity, the manifestation of the Devil is the Hebrew Satan; the primary opponent of God.[4][5] While in Christiany, the Devil was created by God, in Absolute dualism, the Devil is alternatively seen as an independent principle besides the good God. Proponents of such dualism can be found in Zoroastrism, Manichaeism, Albanenses and partly in Catharism. Some other religious and philosophical views, like Thomism,[6] Kabbalah,[7] Bahaism, Sufism and Ahmadiyya, hold that evil has no ontological existence and is regarded as something illusory. So who is the oppisute or buddha, who is opposite the prophet mohammad (peace be upon him). Sikhism ?, hindi ? I presume you are being difficult rather than obtuse. My "Umm - no" was directed at the last word of your text "... Which last word ? Most speak in sentances, so which last word. Yes - you are being difficult. Are you bored or summat? So will you answer the question or will, you again avoid it. What last word were you refering to ? You are chronolgically confused. I have already answered that question. Just read the next paragraph. as it was invented by christians". My point was that it wasn't invented by Christians. from :- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil#Etymology Christianity identifies the Devil ("Satan") with the serpent who tempted Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, and describes him as a "fallen angel" who terrorizes the world through evil. Christians can identify the devil with whomever they like, but they didn't invent the devil. So who invented the devil ?, did he invent himself like God did ? remmebr at the beginging of the universe, before God created Heaven and earth in 7 days well 6 or whatever is claimed, so where did the devil come from the big bang . God created EVERYTHING didn't he ? Or do you believe that God is lying, you better be careful if you believe God is a liar you might end up in hell or Detriot[1] [1] Quote from a southpark episoide where sadam hussain was sent to somewhere worse than hell IIRC. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Rear back-up cameras mandated in new cars
On Fri, 25 May 2018 17:20:55 -0400, PeterN
wrote: On 5/25/2018 9:24 AM, Savageduck wrote: On May 25, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:00:06 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On May 24, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): Snip Its only a few weeks since I last read 1984 and I'm damned if I can make out much of a parallel. Now try Animal Farm, and think of Trump. Sorry. I meant Animal Farm. In fact I read all his books. So have I, not recently, but many years ago. From "Down and Out in Paris”, "Homage to Catalonia”, “The Road to Wigan Pier”, "Keep The Aspidistra Flying”, and the two most usually considered, Animal Farm, and 1984. For me it might be time for a reread. You might also want to read some history books, concerning rise of dictatorships. You appear to be an intelligent person. yet you don't seem to understand the danger in placing the finger of a corrupt megalomaniac over the nuclear button. Trump may be corrupt. I don't think he is a meglamaniac. His finger is no more over the nuclear button than any president of the last 50 years. What I do know, as an outside observer, the Democrats and liberals in general have reacted more violently to Trump than any political opposition to any president that I can recall. Rational discussion and logic seems to have gone out the window and been replaced by virulent animosity fueled by distortion and hate. From my point of view there are no rational discussions of US politics. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Rear back-up cameras mandated in new cars
On Fri, 25 May 2018 15:07:27 -0700, Savageduck
wrote: On May 25, 2018, PeterN wrote (in article ): On 5/25/2018 9:24 AM, Savageduck wrote: On May 25, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:00:06 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On May 24, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): Snip Its only a few weeks since I last read 1984 and I'm damned if I can make out much of a parallel. Now try Animal Farm, and think of Trump. Sorry. I meant Animal Farm. In fact I read all his books. So have I, not recently, but many years ago. From "Down and Out in Paris”, "Homage to Catalonia”, “The Road to Wigan Pier”, "Keep The Aspidistra Flying”, and the two most usually considered, Animal Farm, and 1984. For me it might be time for a reread. You might also want to read some history books, concerning rise of dictatorships. You appear to be an intelligent person. yet you don't seem to understand the danger in placing the finger of a corrupt megalomaniac over the nuclear button. Who are you addressing your remark to? I have an avid interest in history, and I have a considerable library which covers the stories of many of history’s megalomaniacal, power hungry individuals, especially those of the Twentieth Century. I have read, and understand works such as “The Proud Tower" and “The Guns of August" where well intentioned alliances have hurled us into global catastrophe. I understand how that conflict led us to the facist trio of Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco, along with their mirror image, Stalin. I also understand all too well the danger of having the finger of an ignorant, corrupt, lying, megalomaniac over the nuclear button. I also fear that it will take us 20-30 years to recover from this administration, their threat to World peace, and the damage they have done to our democracy, and the environment. I don't think they are responsible for the damage to your democracy as much as they are responsible for it being revealed. I am not continuing this discussion. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Rear back-up cameras mandated in new cars
On 5/25/2018 6:53 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On May 25, 2018, PeterN wrote (in article ): On 5/25/2018 6:07 PM, Savageduck wrote: On May 25, 2018, PeterN wrote (in article ): On 5/25/2018 9:24 AM, Savageduck wrote: On May 25, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:00:06 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On May 24, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): Snip Its only a few weeks since I last read 1984 and I'm damned if I can make out much of a parallel. Now try Animal Farm, and think of Trump. Sorry. I meant Animal Farm. In fact I read all his books. So have I, not recently, but many years ago. From "Down and Out in Paris”, "Homage to Catalonia”, “The Road to Wigan Pier”, "Keep The Aspidistra Flying”, and the two most usually considered, Animal Farm, and 1984. For me it might be time for a reread. You might also want to read some history books, concerning rise of dictatorships. You appear to be an intelligent person. yet you don't seem to understand the danger in placing the finger of a corrupt megalomaniac over the nuclear button. Who are you addressing your remark to? Eric, I thought. Check the attributes before you respond, they will tell the full story. Long day I have an avid interest in history, and I have a considerable library which covers the stories of many of history’s megalomaniacal, power hungry individuals, especially those of the Twentieth Century. I have read, and understand works such as “The Proud Tower" and “The Guns of August" where well intentioned alliances have hurled us into global catastrophe. I understand how that conflict led us to the facist trio of Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco, along with their mirror image, Stalin. I also understand all too well the danger of having the finger of an ignorant, corrupt, lying, megalomaniac over the nuclear button. I also fear that it will take us 20-30 years to recover from this administration, their threat to World peace, and the damage they have done to our democracy, and the environment. As do I. -- PeterN |
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Rear back-up cameras mandated in new cars
On 5/25/2018 8:39 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Fri, 25 May 2018 17:20:55 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 5/25/2018 9:24 AM, Savageduck wrote: On May 25, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): On Thu, 24 May 2018 21:00:06 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On May 24, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote (in ): Snip Its only a few weeks since I last read 1984 and I'm damned if I can make out much of a parallel. Now try Animal Farm, and think of Trump. Sorry. I meant Animal Farm. In fact I read all his books. So have I, not recently, but many years ago. From "Down and Out in Paris”, "Homage to Catalonia”, “The Road to Wigan Pier”, "Keep The Aspidistra Flying”, and the two most usually considered, Animal Farm, and 1984. For me it might be time for a reread. You might also want to read some history books, concerning rise of dictatorships. You appear to be an intelligent person. yet you don't seem to understand the danger in placing the finger of a corrupt megalomaniac over the nuclear button. Trump may be corrupt. I don't think he is a meglamaniac. His finger is no more over the nuclear button than any president of the last 50 years. Perhaps I said that only because I know a lot of people who have dealt with him. What I do know, as an outside observer, the Democrats and liberals in general have reacted more violently to Trump than any political opposition to any president that I can recall. Rational discussion and logic seems to have gone out the window and been replaced by virulent animosity fueled by distortion and hate. From my point of view there are no rational discussions of US politics. -- PeterN |
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