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  #12  
Old December 7th 17, 02:30 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default B&H is sharing your data! Sharing your DATA!!!

In article , PeterN
wrote:

If I order something from Amazon, I do not have to sign in, nor do I even
have to give them my credit card. What is strange about that is they are
using an old credit card that has expired. My new one has a different
security code, expiration date, and billing address


the bank pushed the updated information to amazon.


And violate banking laws?


it's not a violation of any law. it's a service that some merchants may
use.

https://usa.visa.com/run-your-busine...ns/solutions/m
erchant-processing.html
Merchants enrolled in VAU receive updates to cardholder account
information, including new account numbers, new expiration dates,
and/or contact cardholder notifications from participating Visa
issuers.

https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/merc...ess/find-solut
ions-by-business-type/bill-payment-services.html
The Mastercard Automatic Billing Updater allows you to efficiently
and seamlessly update account-on-file information, preventing
disruptions due to account changes and helping you to secure ongoing
payment relationships with your customers.*
  #13  
Old December 7th 17, 05:08 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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android wrote:
On 2017-12-07 05:03:53 +0000, PeterN said:

On 12/6/2017 1:53 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , peter
wrote:


If I order something from Amazon, I do not have to sign in, nor do I even
have to give them my credit card. What is strange about that is they are
using an old credit card that has expired. My new one has a different
security code, expiration date, and billing address

the bank pushed the updated information to amazon.


And violate banking laws?


You have probably waved them...


Nope.

--
PeterN
  #14  
Old December 7th 17, 05:11 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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wrote:
On Thu, 7 Dec 2017 06:23:26 +0100, android wrote:

On 2017-12-07 05:03:53 +0000, PeterN said:

On 12/6/2017 1:53 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , peter
wrote:


If I order something from Amazon, I do not have to sign in, nor do I even
have to give them my credit card. What is strange about that is they are
using an old credit card that has expired. My new one has a different
security code, expiration date, and billing address

the bank pushed the updated information to amazon.


And violate banking laws?


You have probably waved them...


About as believable as ANYTHING else on The Net and especially Usenet.

I've used Amazon and other sales sites on the net for years,
and if my card is expired, they LET ME KNOW, and NO WAY in hell
does my bank give them my new card number, let alone anything else.

My card number DOESN'T even TELL them who my bank (Credit Union) is..





Your card number tells them what type of card you have. Note that the
number is the same. Other merchants who have my card on file request my
security code and new expiration date . If you don’t believe it, that’s
your problem.


--
PeterN
  #15  
Old December 7th 17, 05:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

If I order something from Amazon, I do not have to sign in, nor do I even
have to give them my credit card. What is strange about that is they are
using an old credit card that has expired. My new one has a different
security code, expiration date, and billing address

the bank pushed the updated information to amazon.


And violate banking laws?


it's not a violation of any law. it's a service that some merchants may
use.

https://usa.visa.com/run-your-busine...ns/solutions/m
erchant-processing.html
Merchants enrolled in VAU receive updates to cardholder account
information, including new account numbers, new expiration dates,
and/or contact cardholder notifications from participating Visa
issuers.

https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/merc...ess/find-solut
ions-by-business-type/bill-payment-services.html
The Mastercard Automatic Billing Updater allows you to efficiently
and seamlessly update account-on-file information, preventing
disruptions due to account changes and helping you to secure ongoing
payment relationships with your customers.*


Read the Fair Credit Billing Act, and the Restore Online Shoppers
Confidence Act.
IIRC there are violations galore. I must add that Amazon has not misused my
information. That doesn’t mean other companies haven’t.
Some reputable companies, such as B&H, do not store credit card
information.

--
PeterN
  #16  
Old December 7th 17, 05:57 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default B&H is sharing your data! Sharing your DATA!!!

On Dec 7, 2017, peter wrote
(in article ):

Snip

Read the Fair Credit Billing Act, and the Restore Online Shoppers
Confidence Act.
IIRC there are violations galore. I must add that Amazon has not misused my
information. That doesn’t mean other companies haven’t.
Some reputable companies, such as B&H, do not store credit card
information.


That is not quite true. Both Amazon and B&H retain credit card information if
you authorize them to do so.

B&H has three of my cards on file and I can select any one of them for a
specific purchase, or I can split the charge between any combination of
cards.

Neither Amazon, or B&H have misused my information, and that reminds me, I
have some spending to do.
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Regards,
Savageduck

  #17  
Old December 7th 17, 06:24 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Savageduck wrote:
On Dec 7, 2017, peter wrote
(in article ):

Snip

Read the Fair Credit Billing Act, and the Restore Online Shoppers
Confidence Act.
IIRC there are violations galore. I must add that Amazon has not misused my
information. That doesn’t mean other companies haven’t.
Some reputable companies, such as B&H, do not store credit card
information.


That is not quite true. Both Amazon and B&H retain credit card information if
you authorize them to do so.

B&H has three of my cards on file and I can select any one of them for a
specific purchase, or I can split the charge between any combination of
cards.

Neither Amazon, or B&H have misused my information, and that reminds me, I
have some spending to do.


I thought as you stated. I ordered something from them on Monday. The rep
said they did not have that information. I don’t consider that to be a big
deal.

--
PeterN
  #18  
Old December 7th 17, 06:26 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default B&H is sharing your data! Sharing your DATA!!!

On Dec 7, 2017, peter wrote
(in article ):

wrote:
On Dec 7, 2017, peter wrote
(in article ):

Snip

Read the Fair Credit Billing Act, and the Restore Online Shoppers
Confidence Act.
IIRC there are violations galore. I must add that Amazon has not misused my
information. That doesn’t mean other companies haven’t.
Some reputable companies, such as B&H, do not store credit card
information.


That is not quite true. Both Amazon and B&H retain credit card information
if
you authorize them to do so.

B&H has three of my cards on file and I can select any one of them for a
specific purchase, or I can split the charge between any combination of
cards.

Neither Amazon, or B&H have misused my information, and that reminds me, I
have some spending to do.


I thought as you stated. I ordered something from them on Monday. The rep
said they did not have that information. I don’t consider that to be a big
deal.


Do you order online, or by phone?

All of my orders are online, and in the billing phase of completing the order
with payment method, I have a default card (my Amex) and the option to change
from the default to another card, or to split between cards. The information
for all three cards is retained.

If the cards expire, I have to update them myself in my account information.

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Regards,
Savageduck

  #19  
Old December 7th 17, 06:57 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Carlos E.R.
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Default B&H is sharing your data! Sharing your DATA!!!

On 2017-12-06 19:53, nospam wrote:
In article , peter
wrote:


If I order something from Amazon, I do not have to sign in, nor do I even
have to give them my credit card. What is strange about that is they are
using an old credit card that has expired. My new one has a different
security code, expiration date, and billing address


the bank pushed the updated information to amazon.


The the customer would see the last four digits of the currently valid
card in the payment form, when the client is asked to click on the
wanted payment method.

It can be verified if such is the case.

My guess is that the bank "redirects" the payment request to the new
card, same as they do with bank account numbers.

For instance, I'm paying with my accounts things that the supplier have
registered for recurring payments with my parents account many years
ago. It is automatic over here.


--
Cheers, Carlos.
  #20  
Old December 7th 17, 07:55 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default B&H is sharing your data! Sharing your DATA!!!

In article , peter
wrote:

If I order something from Amazon, I do not have to sign in, nor do I even
have to give them my credit card. What is strange about that is they are
using an old credit card that has expired. My new one has a different
security code, expiration date, and billing address

the bank pushed the updated information to amazon.

And violate banking laws?


it's not a violation of any law. it's a service that some merchants may
use.

https://usa.visa.com/run-your-busine...ns/solutions/m
erchant-processing.html
Merchants enrolled in VAU receive updates to cardholder account
information, including new account numbers, new expiration dates,
and/or contact cardholder notifications from participating Visa
issuers.

https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/merc...ess/find-solut
ions-by-business-type/bill-payment-services.html
The Mastercard Automatic Billing Updater allows you to efficiently
and seamlessly update account-on-file information, preventing
disruptions due to account changes and helping you to secure ongoing
payment relationships with your customers.*


Read the Fair Credit Billing Act, and the Restore Online Shoppers
Confidence Act.


no need, because not only do you agree with me, but you contradicted
yourself yet again:

In article , peter
wrote:
Your card number tells them what type of card you have. Note that the
number is the same. Other merchants who have my card on file request my
security code and new expiration date . If you dont believe it, thats
your problem.


do try to keep your story consistent.

IIRC there are violations galore. I must add that Amazon has not misused my
information. That doesnt mean other companies havent.
Some reputable companies, such as B&H, do not store credit card
information.


yes they most certainly do.
 




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