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Old May 21st 16, 01:24 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default The focal length to sensor size equivalency thing has to DIE!!

On Fri, 20 May 2016 13:14:18 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 5/20/2016 12:29 PM, Me wrote:
On 20/05/2016 17:20, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-05-20 03:42:21 +0000, Me said:


However, in my wait for a D300S successor I adopted the Fuji-X System. I
still use my D300S, but my next camera upgrade is probably going to be a
Fuji X-Pro2, or the new X-T2 when it is released.
My Fuji X-E2v4.0, and the mix of XF14mm f/2.8 & XF35mm f/1.4 primes and
18-55mm & 55-200mm zooms suits my current photographic needs, I don't
need a FF DSLR. Then since some of this thread was in regard to the new
Fuji 2xTC, here are a few examples of what the XF100-400mm can do on an
X-T1 with one of those inferior 16MP APS-C sensors.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/Y5-100-400-723.jpg


What is it? ... and how did you get it?

(We don't have critters like that in this part of the world)


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/Y5-100-400-696.jpg


Mutters to self, I don't need another lens. I can manage with the
50-230.....

(Nice pics BTW)

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Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #2  
Old May 21st 16, 01:32 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default The focal length to sensor size equivalency thing has to DIE!!

On 2016-05-21 00:24:36 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Fri, 20 May 2016 13:14:18 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 5/20/2016 12:29 PM, Me wrote:
On 20/05/2016 17:20, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-05-20 03:42:21 +0000, Me said:


However, in my wait for a D300S successor I adopted the Fuji-X System. I
still use my D300S, but my next camera upgrade is probably going to be a
Fuji X-Pro2, or the new X-T2 when it is released.
My Fuji X-E2v4.0, and the mix of XF14mm f/2.8 & XF35mm f/1.4 primes and
18-55mm & 55-200mm zooms suits my current photographic needs, I don't
need a FF DSLR. Then since some of this thread was in regard to the new
Fuji 2xTC, here are a few examples of what the XF100-400mm can do on an
X-T1 with one of those inferior 16MP APS-C sensors.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/Y5-100-400-723.jpg


What is it? ... and how did you get it?


As I explained in another response, I didn't get it, Here is the source:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/fuji-x-t1/fuji-x-t1GALLERY.HTM

....and it is a chipmunk:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipmunk

(We don't have critters like that in this part of the world)


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/Y5-100-400-696.jpg


Mutters to self, I don't need another lens. I can manage with the
50-230.....

(Nice pics BTW)



--
Regards,

Savageduck

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Old May 21st 16, 03:15 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_6_]
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Default The focal length to sensor size equivalency thing has to DIE!!

On 5/20/2016 8:47 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Sat, 21 May 2016 12:24:36 +1200, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Fri, 20 May 2016 13:14:18 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 5/20/2016 12:29 PM, Me wrote:
On 20/05/2016 17:20, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-05-20 03:42:21 +0000, Me said:

However, in my wait for a D300S successor I adopted the Fuji-X System. I
still use my D300S, but my next camera upgrade is probably going to be a
Fuji X-Pro2, or the new X-T2 when it is released.
My Fuji X-E2v4.0, and the mix of XF14mm f/2.8 & XF35mm f/1.4 primes and
18-55mm & 55-200mm zooms suits my current photographic needs, I don't
need a FF DSLR. Then since some of this thread was in regard to the new
Fuji 2xTC, here are a few examples of what the XF100-400mm can do on an
X-T1 with one of those inferior 16MP APS-C sensors.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/Y5-100-400-723.jpg


What is it? ... and how did you get it?


That's Alvin.


That image is an example of why I want an articulating VF. If taken at
eye level, it would be a stronger image.


--
PeterN
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Old May 21st 16, 04:06 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bill W
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Default The focal length to sensor size equivalency thing has to DIE!!

On Fri, 20 May 2016 22:15:16 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 5/20/2016 8:47 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Sat, 21 May 2016 12:24:36 +1200, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Fri, 20 May 2016 13:14:18 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 5/20/2016 12:29 PM, Me wrote:
On 20/05/2016 17:20, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-05-20 03:42:21 +0000, Me said:

However, in my wait for a D300S successor I adopted the Fuji-X System. I
still use my D300S, but my next camera upgrade is probably going to be a
Fuji X-Pro2, or the new X-T2 when it is released.
My Fuji X-E2v4.0, and the mix of XF14mm f/2.8 & XF35mm f/1.4 primes and
18-55mm & 55-200mm zooms suits my current photographic needs, I don't
need a FF DSLR. Then since some of this thread was in regard to the new
Fuji 2xTC, here are a few examples of what the XF100-400mm can do on an
X-T1 with one of those inferior 16MP APS-C sensors.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/Y5-100-400-723.jpg

What is it? ... and how did you get it?


That's Alvin.


That image is an example of why I want an articulating VF. If taken at
eye level, it would be a stronger image.


I posted this previously in a reply to Duck:

That's why I bought these for my cameras: http://flipbac.com/

They aren't the easiest thing to use, but you get used to it. The
other issue is that the "hinge" loosens over time, and you have to use
a spare finger to hold the mirror at the desired angle. Regardless,
that's how I get all my ground level shots at car & bike shows, and
the added benefit is that they keep the display covered and protected
the rest of the time.

The other option is obvious - just make sure you're wide enough, lower
the camera, and take the shots without any viewfinder. Crop and level
later. I get a lot of street photos that way.

One note: The largest viewfinder they're made for is 3", so you would
have to modify it for the 3.2". It's not that hard, but requires a
Dremel and some steady hands.
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Old May 21st 16, 04:16 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default The focal length to sensor size equivalency thing has to DIE!!

In article , Bill W
wrote:

That image is an example of why I want an articulating VF. If taken at
eye level, it would be a stronger image.


I posted this previously in a reply to Duck:

That's why I bought these for my cameras: http://flipbac.com/

They aren't the easiest thing to use, but you get used to it. The
other issue is that the "hinge" loosens over time, and you have to use
a spare finger to hold the mirror at the desired angle. Regardless,
that's how I get all my ground level shots at car & bike shows, and
the added benefit is that they keep the display covered and protected
the rest of the time.

The other option is obvious - just make sure you're wide enough, lower
the camera, and take the shots without any viewfinder. Crop and level
later. I get a lot of street photos that way.

One note: The largest viewfinder they're made for is 3", so you would
have to modify it for the 3.2". It's not that hard, but requires a
Dremel and some steady hands.


it's much easier and quite a bit more flexible to use live view while
connected to a portable lcd display that has hdmi in.

for a more permanent setup, use a larger (and less portable) display.

bonus points for making it wireless.

or just get an old school right angle adapter. this one is compatible
with a d810:
http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-pro...ders/dr-5-scre
w-in-right-angle-viewfinder.html
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Old May 21st 16, 04:23 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default The focal length to sensor size equivalency thing has to DIE!!

On Fri, 20 May 2016 22:15:16 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 5/20/2016 8:47 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Sat, 21 May 2016 12:24:36 +1200, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Fri, 20 May 2016 13:14:18 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 5/20/2016 12:29 PM, Me wrote:
On 20/05/2016 17:20, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-05-20 03:42:21 +0000, Me said:

However, in my wait for a D300S successor I adopted the Fuji-X System. I
still use my D300S, but my next camera upgrade is probably going to be a
Fuji X-Pro2, or the new X-T2 when it is released.
My Fuji X-E2v4.0, and the mix of XF14mm f/2.8 & XF35mm f/1.4 primes and
18-55mm & 55-200mm zooms suits my current photographic needs, I don't
need a FF DSLR. Then since some of this thread was in regard to the new
Fuji 2xTC, here are a few examples of what the XF100-400mm can do on an
X-T1 with one of those inferior 16MP APS-C sensors.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/Y5-100-400-723.jpg

What is it? ... and how did you get it?


That's Alvin.


That image is an example of why I want an articulating VF. If taken at
eye level, it would be a stronger image.


I took this shot for a Shoot-in with the D300 on a monopod, the camera
resting upside down on my shoe and released by a cable.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/.../_DSC4265a.jpg
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old May 21st 16, 04:51 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default The focal length to sensor size equivalency thing has to DIE!!

On 2016-05-21 03:16:28 +0000, nospam said:

In article , Bill W
wrote:

That image is an example of why I want an articulating VF. If taken at
eye level, it would be a stronger image.


I posted this previously in a reply to Duck:

That's why I bought these for my cameras: http://flipbac.com/

They aren't the easiest thing to use, but you get used to it. The
other issue is that the "hinge" loosens over time, and you have to use
a spare finger to hold the mirror at the desired angle. Regardless,
that's how I get all my ground level shots at car & bike shows, and
the added benefit is that they keep the display covered and protected
the rest of the time.

The other option is obvious - just make sure you're wide enough, lower
the camera, and take the shots without any viewfinder. Crop and level
later. I get a lot of street photos that way.

One note: The largest viewfinder they're made for is 3", so you would
have to modify it for the 3.2". It's not that hard, but requires a
Dremel and some steady hands.


it's much easier and quite a bit more flexible to use live view while
connected to a portable lcd display that has hdmi in.

for a more permanent setup, use a larger (and less portable) display.

bonus points for making it wireless.

or just get an old school right angle adapter. this one is compatible
with a d810:
http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-pro...ders/dr-5-scre
w-in-right-angle-viewfinder.html


Oh! Hell! The Fuji X-Series are headed towards flip up LCDs. The X-T1
has one and that will probably be retained by the X-T2 when it is
released.
In the meantime, with my X-E2v4.0 I have the Fujifilm 'Cam Remote'
installed on my iPhone and iPad to give me a WiFi enabled full remote
with display. That is available to all the current X-Series cameras.
https://db.tt/92Pbj3jC
Then a little tweak to the aperture from f/9 to f/1.4
https://db.tt/8Vj8qlyy

--
Regards,

Savageduck

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Old May 21st 16, 04:52 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default The focal length to sensor size equivalency thing has to DIE!!

On 2016-05-21 03:23:54 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Fri, 20 May 2016 22:15:16 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

That image is an example of why I want an articulating VF. If taken at
eye level, it would be a stronger image.


I took this shot for a Shoot-in with the D300 on a monopod, the camera
resting upside down on my shoe and released by a cable.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/.../_DSC4265a.jpg


I remember that shot.


--
Regards,

Savageduck

  #9  
Old May 21st 16, 05:24 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bill W
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Default The focal length to sensor size equivalency thing has to DIE!!

On Fri, 20 May 2016 23:16:28 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Bill W
wrote:

That image is an example of why I want an articulating VF. If taken at
eye level, it would be a stronger image.


I posted this previously in a reply to Duck:

That's why I bought these for my cameras: http://flipbac.com/

They aren't the easiest thing to use, but you get used to it. The
other issue is that the "hinge" loosens over time, and you have to use
a spare finger to hold the mirror at the desired angle. Regardless,
that's how I get all my ground level shots at car & bike shows, and
the added benefit is that they keep the display covered and protected
the rest of the time.

The other option is obvious - just make sure you're wide enough, lower
the camera, and take the shots without any viewfinder. Crop and level
later. I get a lot of street photos that way.

One note: The largest viewfinder they're made for is 3", so you would
have to modify it for the 3.2". It's not that hard, but requires a
Dremel and some steady hands.


it's much easier and quite a bit more flexible to use live view while
connected to a portable lcd display that has hdmi in.

for a more permanent setup, use a larger (and less portable) display.

bonus points for making it wireless.

or just get an old school right angle adapter. this one is compatible
with a d810:
http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-pro...ders/dr-5-scre
w-in-right-angle-viewfinder.html


I looked for tethering software for Android a while ago, but couldn't
find anything. I'll look again - it's cheaper than buying another
display if I can use my phone or tablet.

One thing I did find is remote control apps, so I don't have to worry
about losing the camera remote anymore. They work with any phone with
an IR emitter.
  #10  
Old May 21st 16, 05:38 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default The focal length to sensor size equivalency thing has to DIE!!

On Fri, 20 May 2016 20:52:38 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2016-05-21 03:23:54 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Fri, 20 May 2016 22:15:16 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

That image is an example of why I want an articulating VF. If taken at
eye level, it would be a stronger image.


I took this shot for a Shoot-in with the D300 on a monopod, the camera
resting upside down on my shoe and released by a cable.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/.../_DSC4265a.jpg


I remember that shot.


It wasn't a test. :-)
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Regards,

Eric Stevens
 




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