Car readers won't show WAV files.

I have tried several brands of USB card reader for use with my digital
camera's (Kodak DC290) Compact Flash card. My camera allows the capture of
WAV files along with pictures. Using the manufacturer's driver, it shows
the card reader file system with both JPGs, TIFFs, WAVs, etc. Using any
card reader I have tried so far, only image files are displayed. Why is
this ? Anyone else seen this behavior ?

If anyone should wonder, I have reloaded my OS (W2K Prof) and the driver no
longer functions correctly, so I have resorted to a reader, which I like the
idea of no additional driver overhead anyway, since it relies on the
already-loaded USB driver.

Thanks,
Scott

"ScottHW" wrote in message
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I have tried several brands of USB card reader for use with my digital
camera's (Kodak DC290) Compact Flash card. My camera allows the capture
of
WAV files along with pictures. Using the manufacturer's driver, it shows
the card reader file system with both JPGs, TIFFs, WAVs, etc. Using any
card reader I have tried so far, only image files are displayed. Why is
this ? Anyone else seen this behavior ?

If anyone should wonder, I have reloaded my OS (W2K Prof) and the driver
no
longer functions correctly, so I have resorted to a reader, which I like
the
idea of no additional driver overhead anyway, since it relies on the
already-loaded USB driver.

Thanks,
Scott



What are you using to browse the contents of the card? If you're using
image-browsing software, that's all you'll see is image files. Using the
standard Windows Explorer, though, should show you everything on the card.

Mark

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:56:51 -0500, "ScottHW"
wrote:

I have tried several brands of USB card reader for use with my digital
camera's (Kodak DC290) Compact Flash card. My camera allows the capture of
WAV files along with pictures. Using the manufacturer's driver, it shows
the card reader file system with both JPGs, TIFFs, WAVs, etc. Using any
card reader I have tried so far, only image files are displayed. Why is
this ? Anyone else seen this behavior ?

If anyone should wonder, I have reloaded my OS (W2K Prof) and the driver no
longer functions correctly, so I have resorted to a reader, which I like the
idea of no additional driver overhead anyway, since it relies on the
already-loaded USB driver.

I had 2000 Pro a couple years ago and as I recall you have to enable
the P-n-P feature. I don't remember about USB, but I'd check that
too. It seems as I remember enabling P-n-P disabled something else I
wanted to use. I went to XP Pro as P-n-P was so much easier and it's
based pretty much on the same kernel.

Good Luck,

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Thanks,
Scott

I am using Windows Explorer. It only shows the images - no WAVs.

Scott

"Mark B." wrote in message
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"ScottHW" wrote in message
...
I have tried several brands of USB card reader for use with my digital
camera's (Kodak DC290) Compact Flash card. My camera allows the
capture
of
WAV files along with pictures. Using the manufacturer's driver, it
shows
the card reader file system with both JPGs, TIFFs, WAVs, etc. Using any
card reader I have tried so far, only image files are displayed. Why is
this ? Anyone else seen this behavior ?

If anyone should wonder, I have reloaded my OS (W2K Prof) and the driver
no
longer functions correctly, so I have resorted to a reader, which I like
the
idea of no additional driver overhead anyway, since it relies on the
already-loaded USB driver.

Thanks,
Scott



What are you using to browse the contents of the card? If you're using
image-browsing software, that's all you'll see is image files. Using the
standard Windows Explorer, though, should show you everything on the card.

Mark

PnP is already enabled.

Thanks,
Scott

"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:56:51 -0500, "ScottHW"
wrote:

I have tried several brands of USB card reader for use with my digital
camera's (Kodak DC290) Compact Flash card. My camera allows the capture
of
WAV files along with pictures. Using the manufacturer's driver, it shows
the card reader file system with both JPGs, TIFFs, WAVs, etc. Using any
card reader I have tried so far, only image files are displayed. Why is
this ? Anyone else seen this behavior ?

If anyone should wonder, I have reloaded my OS (W2K Prof) and the driver
no
longer functions correctly, so I have resorted to a reader, which I like
the
idea of no additional driver overhead anyway, since it relies on the
already-loaded USB driver.

I had 2000 Pro a couple years ago and as I recall you have to enable
the P-n-P feature. I don't remember about USB, but I'd check that
too. It seems as I remember enabling P-n-P disabled something else I
wanted to use. I went to XP Pro as P-n-P was so much easier and it's
based pretty much on the same kernel.

Good Luck,

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Thanks,
Scott

No only that, I had updated the firmware, and had to create a System folder
on the card and copy some files and run them. Those files are still there,
and I can see the directory, but no files. It is as if the manufacturers
are filtering on known image types, and won't allow anything else to show
up.

Scott

"ScottHW" wrote in message
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I am using Windows Explorer. It only shows the images - no WAVs.

Scott

"Mark B." wrote in message
...
"ScottHW" wrote in message
...
I have tried several brands of USB card reader for use with my digital
camera's (Kodak DC290) Compact Flash card. My camera allows the
capture
of
WAV files along with pictures. Using the manufacturer's driver, it
shows
the card reader file system with both JPGs, TIFFs, WAVs, etc. Using
any
card reader I have tried so far, only image files are displayed. Why
is
this ? Anyone else seen this behavior ?

If anyone should wonder, I have reloaded my OS (W2K Prof) and the
driver
no
longer functions correctly, so I have resorted to a reader, which I
like
the
idea of no additional driver overhead anyway, since it relies on the
already-loaded USB driver.

Thanks,
Scott



What are you using to browse the contents of the card? If you're using
image-browsing software, that's all you'll see is image files. Using
the
standard Windows Explorer, though, should show you everything on the
card.

Mark

"Ed Ruf" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:56:51 -0500, in rec.photo.digital "ScottHW"
wrote:

I have tried several brands of USB card reader for use with my digital
camera's (Kodak DC290) Compact Flash card. My camera allows the capture
of
WAV files along with pictures. Using the manufacturer's driver, it shows
the card reader file system with both JPGs, TIFFs, WAVs, etc. Using any
card reader I have tried so far, only image files are displayed. Why is
this ? Anyone else seen this behavior ?

If anyone should wonder, I have reloaded my OS (W2K Prof) and the driver
no
longer functions correctly, so I have resorted to a reader, which I like
the
idea of no additional driver overhead anyway, since it relies on the
already-loaded USB driver.

By any chance could they be marked as hidden files or stored in a
hidden folder? Browse to the card in Explorer. Then choose Tools ==
Folder Options == View and enable the Show hidden files and folders
selection. You might also disable Hide protected operating system
files.
__________________________________________________ ______
Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 )
See images taken with my CP-990 and 5700 at
http://EdwardGRuf.com

No, I checked that - I always turn on all files types, and I double checked
just now and hidden and OS files are "turned on" for display.

sigh

Scott

"ScottHW" wrote in message
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I am using Windows Explorer. It only shows the images - no WAVs.

Scott


Beats me, then. Check the settings in Windows Explorer, make sure nothing
is hidden (Tools/Folder Options).

Mark

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:02:19 -0500, "ScottHW"
wrote:


"Ed Ruf" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:56:51 -0500, in rec.photo.digital "ScottHW"
wrote:

I have tried several brands of USB card reader for use with my digital
camera's (Kodak DC290) Compact Flash card. My camera allows the capture
of
WAV files along with pictures. Using the manufacturer's driver, it shows
the card reader file system with both JPGs, TIFFs, WAVs, etc. Using any
card reader I have tried so far, only image files are displayed. Why is
this ? Anyone else seen this behavior ?

If anyone should wonder, I have reloaded my OS (W2K Prof) and the driver
no
longer functions correctly, so I have resorted to a reader, which I like
the
idea of no additional driver overhead anyway, since it relies on the
already-loaded USB driver.

By any chance could they be marked as hidden files or stored in a
hidden folder? Browse to the card in Explorer. Then choose Tools ==
Folder Options == View and enable the Show hidden files and folders
selection. You might also disable Hide protected operating system
files.
__________________________________________________ ______
Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 )
See images taken with my CP-990 and 5700 at
http://EdwardGRuf.com

No, I checked that - I always turn on all files types, and I double checked
just now and hidden and OS files are "turned on" for display.

sigh

Its unlikely, but could the WAV be imbeded in the picture file
(probably at the end)... and the camera direct connection software can
see there is more data than just the picture file.

Perhaps the Kodak software if used to view the files you've transfered
to the PC will say there is an attatched WAV.


Scott


--
Jonathan Wilson.
www.somethingerotic.com

BINGO! It's *not* unlikely. I have done some experimenting, and when I
record a WAV with picture, I can plug the Card in and look at the
Properties, and tell the Used space is correct for the approximate size of
the JPG and the WAV. If I put the card back into the camera and tell the
camera to delete the WAV only, then put card BACK into the reader, the free
space has shrunk. The individual JPG has also shrunk by an appropriate
size. The rascals! Now, how in the world do I sort that out with a 3rd
party reader ? There doesn't seem to be a way to tell the Kodak software to
look at files on the hard drive already. I may have to call Kodak support
and put this to rest.

Thanks everyone for chiming in,
Scott


"Jonathan Wilson" wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 07:02:19 -0500, "ScottHW"
wrote:


"Ed Ruf" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:56:51 -0500, in rec.photo.digital "ScottHW"
wrote:

I have tried several brands of USB card reader for use with my digital
camera's (Kodak DC290) Compact Flash card. My camera allows the
capture
of
WAV files along with pictures. Using the manufacturer's driver, it
shows
the card reader file system with both JPGs, TIFFs, WAVs, etc. Using
any
card reader I have tried so far, only image files are displayed. Why
is
this ? Anyone else seen this behavior ?

If anyone should wonder, I have reloaded my OS (W2K Prof) and the
driver
no
longer functions correctly, so I have resorted to a reader, which I
like
the
idea of no additional driver overhead anyway, since it relies on the
already-loaded USB driver.

By any chance could they be marked as hidden files or stored in a
hidden folder? Browse to the card in Explorer. Then choose Tools ==
Folder Options == View and enable the Show hidden files and folders
selection. You might also disable Hide protected operating system
files.
__________________________________________________ ______
Ed Ruf Lifetime AMA# 344007 )
See images taken with my CP-990 and 5700 at
http://EdwardGRuf.com

No, I checked that - I always turn on all files types, and I double
checked
just now and hidden and OS files are "turned on" for display.

sigh

Its unlikely, but could the WAV be imbeded in the picture file
(probably at the end)... and the camera direct connection software can
see there is more data than just the picture file.

Perhaps the Kodak software if used to view the files you've transfered
to the PC will say there is an attatched WAV.


Scott


--
Jonathan Wilson.
www.somethingerotic.com