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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:34:05 -0700, "Larry R Harrison Jr"
wrote: Frankly, I have noticed so many cameras switching to Secure Digital (SD) cards in place of Compact Flash I'm wondering if Compact Flash is going the way of Smart Media cards. Yes, SD is more compact but then, look at how compact the Nikon Coolpix 2100 and 3100 cameras were and they were Compact Flash. Ditto the Canon Powershot A60, A70, A75 etc. Even the Powershot S410 is Compact Flash, and that is one tiny camera; it's one of the "Digital IXUS" series of ultra-compacts sort of like the "Digital Elph" series. I don't know why this bothers me, but it does. I'd just assume manufacturers stick more with Compact Flash, but between all of Nikon's compacts going SD, Pentax's new *ist DS D-SLR going SD and so on, it looks like Compact Flash may be going the way of Smart Media cards. I guess it shouldn't bother me, but frankly the more manufacturers would just stick with one type of card and be done with it, the better things would be. But then, maybe that's what they're doing in the way of SD, I don't know. Maybe I'm just nervious because I've "invested" in a Coolpix 5700 which is Compact Flash and I don't want its media becoming obselete even though eventually I guess the camera itself will be. Comments? LRH I had a neighbor who complained that he could see no problem with tube-type tires, and didn't see why the tire companies had to muck things up with the (then) new tubless tires. I'll bet he complained when radials came out, too. :-) One of the reasons memory card makers are going to smaller cards is specifically because they allow smaller cameras. So why do larger cameras also use them? Because a lot of people want to only use one type of card in their cameras. Will CF cards become obsolete? Yes. Eventually. When? Maybe soon, maybe later. ;-) Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 08:34:05 -0700, "Larry R Harrison Jr"
wrote: Frankly, I have noticed so many cameras switching to Secure Digital (SD) cards in place of Compact Flash I'm wondering if Compact Flash is going the way of Smart Media cards. Yes, SD is more compact but then, look at how compact the Nikon Coolpix 2100 and 3100 cameras were and they were Compact Flash. Ditto the Canon Powershot A60, A70, A75 etc. Even the Powershot S410 is Compact Flash, and that is one tiny camera; it's one of the "Digital IXUS" series of ultra-compacts sort of like the "Digital Elph" series. I don't know why this bothers me, but it does. I'd just assume manufacturers stick more with Compact Flash, but between all of Nikon's compacts going SD, Pentax's new *ist DS D-SLR going SD and so on, it looks like Compact Flash may be going the way of Smart Media cards. I guess it shouldn't bother me, but frankly the more manufacturers would just stick with one type of card and be done with it, the better things would be. But then, maybe that's what they're doing in the way of SD, I don't know. Maybe I'm just nervious because I've "invested" in a Coolpix 5700 which is Compact Flash and I don't want its media becoming obselete even though eventually I guess the camera itself will be. Comments? LRH I had a neighbor who complained that he could see no problem with tube-type tires, and didn't see why the tire companies had to muck things up with the (then) new tubless tires. I'll bet he complained when radials came out, too. :-) One of the reasons memory card makers are going to smaller cards is specifically because they allow smaller cameras. So why do larger cameras also use them? Because a lot of people want to only use one type of card in their cameras. Will CF cards become obsolete? Yes. Eventually. When? Maybe soon, maybe later. ;-) Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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"Larry R Harrison Jr" wrote in message
... Frankly, I have noticed so many cameras switching to Secure Digital (SD) cards in place of Compact Flash I'm wondering if Compact Flash is going the way of Smart Media cards. It seems to me that cameras and camcorders are converging into a single machine that can capture both hi-res photos and video. The most convenient way to record the video would be on flash memory cards, just like we do now for video clips on our digicams. But if we're going to be using flash memory to store video, we're going to need huge quantities of it, because 1 hour of video takes up ALOT of memory space. And memory cost will need to drop alot, too. I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe CF will always be able to hold many times the amount of memory an SD card can hold simply because of CF's greater volume. So, if the market goes toward video storage on CF memory like I think it will, we'll see CF cards around for a very long time. |
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"Larry R Harrison Jr" wrote in message
... Frankly, I have noticed so many cameras switching to Secure Digital (SD) cards in place of Compact Flash I'm wondering if Compact Flash is going the way of Smart Media cards. It seems to me that cameras and camcorders are converging into a single machine that can capture both hi-res photos and video. The most convenient way to record the video would be on flash memory cards, just like we do now for video clips on our digicams. But if we're going to be using flash memory to store video, we're going to need huge quantities of it, because 1 hour of video takes up ALOT of memory space. And memory cost will need to drop alot, too. I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe CF will always be able to hold many times the amount of memory an SD card can hold simply because of CF's greater volume. So, if the market goes toward video storage on CF memory like I think it will, we'll see CF cards around for a very long time. |
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In article , Ron Hunter
writes Larry R Harrison Jr wrote: Frankly, I have noticed so many cameras switching to Secure Digital (SD) cards in place of Compact Flash I'm wondering if Compact Flash is going the way of Smart Media cards. Yes, SD is more compact but then, look at how compact the Nikon Coolpix 2100 and 3100 cameras were and they were Compact Flash. Ditto the Canon Powershot A60, A70, A75 etc. Even the Powershot S410 is Compact Flash, and that is one tiny camera; it's one of the "Digital IXUS" series of ultra-compacts sort of like the "Digital Elph" series. I don't know why this bothers me, but it does. I'd just assume manufacturers stick more with Compact Flash, but between all of Nikon's compacts going SD, Pentax's new *ist DS D-SLR going SD and so on, it looks like Compact Flash may be going the way of Smart Media cards. I guess it shouldn't bother me, but frankly the more manufacturers would just stick with one type of card and be done with it, the better things would be. But then, maybe that's what they're doing in the way of SD, I don't know. Maybe I'm just nervious because I've "invested" in a Coolpix 5700 which is Compact Flash and I don't want its media becoming obselete even though eventually I guess the camera itself will be. Comments? LRH In the electronics business, the normal span of use before a given technology is hopelessly out of date is quite short. One can buy a toaster and expect to use it until it no longer works without any significant improvements being made to the newest devices, other than flashy cases. Not so for digital electronics devices. It's a fact of life, and likely will be until long after I am dust. Kodak is doing the same thing (moving to SD cards). You can keep the old camera, or move with the tide. Even if you can not buy new memory cards the camera and the cards you have will work for a long time. Besides CF will remain until long after they introduce SD size microdrivers for professional cameras. -- Ian G8ILZ |
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In article , Ron Hunter
writes Larry R Harrison Jr wrote: Frankly, I have noticed so many cameras switching to Secure Digital (SD) cards in place of Compact Flash I'm wondering if Compact Flash is going the way of Smart Media cards. Yes, SD is more compact but then, look at how compact the Nikon Coolpix 2100 and 3100 cameras were and they were Compact Flash. Ditto the Canon Powershot A60, A70, A75 etc. Even the Powershot S410 is Compact Flash, and that is one tiny camera; it's one of the "Digital IXUS" series of ultra-compacts sort of like the "Digital Elph" series. I don't know why this bothers me, but it does. I'd just assume manufacturers stick more with Compact Flash, but between all of Nikon's compacts going SD, Pentax's new *ist DS D-SLR going SD and so on, it looks like Compact Flash may be going the way of Smart Media cards. I guess it shouldn't bother me, but frankly the more manufacturers would just stick with one type of card and be done with it, the better things would be. But then, maybe that's what they're doing in the way of SD, I don't know. Maybe I'm just nervious because I've "invested" in a Coolpix 5700 which is Compact Flash and I don't want its media becoming obselete even though eventually I guess the camera itself will be. Comments? LRH In the electronics business, the normal span of use before a given technology is hopelessly out of date is quite short. One can buy a toaster and expect to use it until it no longer works without any significant improvements being made to the newest devices, other than flashy cases. Not so for digital electronics devices. It's a fact of life, and likely will be until long after I am dust. Kodak is doing the same thing (moving to SD cards). You can keep the old camera, or move with the tide. Even if you can not buy new memory cards the camera and the cards you have will work for a long time. Besides CF will remain until long after they introduce SD size microdrivers for professional cameras. -- Ian G8ILZ |
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"Tony Whitaker" wrote in message link.net...
"Larry R Harrison Jr" wrote in message ... Frankly, I have noticed so many cameras switching to Secure Digital (SD) cards in place of Compact Flash I'm wondering if Compact Flash is going the way of Smart Media cards. It seems to me that cameras and camcorders are converging into a single machine that can capture both hi-res photos and video. The most convenient way to record the video would be on flash memory cards, just like we do now for video clips on our digicams. But if we're going to be using flash memory to store video, we're going to need huge quantities of it, because 1 hour of video takes up ALOT of memory space. And memory cost will need to drop alot, too. I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe CF will always be able to hold many times the amount of memory an SD card can hold simply because of CF's greater volume. So, if the market goes toward video storage on CF memory like I think it will, we'll see CF cards around for a very long time. While it is true that the volume of CF is quite a bit larger than an SD, meaning that it should always be able to hold more data, the SD bus protocol looks like it can be faster than CF. This shouldn't be a surprise because SD is a newer design. Card testing at www.robgalbraith.com shows that on a Canon 1D mII, the SD can write RAW files at around 7 MB/sec, whereas the CF can only do about 4 MB/sec. Regards, MeepMeep |
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"Tony Whitaker" wrote in message link.net...
"Larry R Harrison Jr" wrote in message ... Frankly, I have noticed so many cameras switching to Secure Digital (SD) cards in place of Compact Flash I'm wondering if Compact Flash is going the way of Smart Media cards. It seems to me that cameras and camcorders are converging into a single machine that can capture both hi-res photos and video. The most convenient way to record the video would be on flash memory cards, just like we do now for video clips on our digicams. But if we're going to be using flash memory to store video, we're going to need huge quantities of it, because 1 hour of video takes up ALOT of memory space. And memory cost will need to drop alot, too. I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe CF will always be able to hold many times the amount of memory an SD card can hold simply because of CF's greater volume. So, if the market goes toward video storage on CF memory like I think it will, we'll see CF cards around for a very long time. While it is true that the volume of CF is quite a bit larger than an SD, meaning that it should always be able to hold more data, the SD bus protocol looks like it can be faster than CF. This shouldn't be a surprise because SD is a newer design. Card testing at www.robgalbraith.com shows that on a Canon 1D mII, the SD can write RAW files at around 7 MB/sec, whereas the CF can only do about 4 MB/sec. Regards, MeepMeep |
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"Tony Whitaker" wrote in message link.net...
"Larry R Harrison Jr" wrote in message ... Frankly, I have noticed so many cameras switching to Secure Digital (SD) cards in place of Compact Flash I'm wondering if Compact Flash is going the way of Smart Media cards. It seems to me that cameras and camcorders are converging into a single machine that can capture both hi-res photos and video. The most convenient way to record the video would be on flash memory cards, just like we do now for video clips on our digicams. But if we're going to be using flash memory to store video, we're going to need huge quantities of it, because 1 hour of video takes up ALOT of memory space. And memory cost will need to drop alot, too. I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe CF will always be able to hold many times the amount of memory an SD card can hold simply because of CF's greater volume. So, if the market goes toward video storage on CF memory like I think it will, we'll see CF cards around for a very long time. While it is true that the volume of CF is quite a bit larger than an SD, meaning that it should always be able to hold more data, the SD bus protocol looks like it can be faster than CF. This shouldn't be a surprise because SD is a newer design. Card testing at www.robgalbraith.com shows that on a Canon 1D mII, the SD can write RAW files at around 7 MB/sec, whereas the CF can only do about 4 MB/sec. Regards, MeepMeep |
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CF isn't going anywhere soon. The recently released Canon 20D uses it, as
does the new Maxxum 7D. It'll be around in DSLRs for quite a while. Mark |
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