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[PICS] Death of a Small Town
These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a
small town near dusk. Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200) http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd... |
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[PICS] Death of a Small Town
JimKramer wrote:
These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a small town near dusk. Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200) http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd... Interesting. The extra grain of the 3200 enhances the feeling of bleakness. How 'small' of a town is it? Gotta lose that background on the thumbnail page, though. |
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On Jan 31, 11:58 am, JimKramer wrote:
These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a small town near dusk. Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200)http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd... Some very nice stuff there, Jim, but Dave's right- that background sucks - what were you thinking? (O: It also highlights (pun not intended..) the fact that those images are all a bit short on true blacks - is that an artistic choice? I would have thought using the full dynamic range would add to the feeling, but I may be wrong. And I guess going to full blacks might also over- emphasise the noise... |
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[PICS] Death of a Small Town
JimKramer wrote:
These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a small town near dusk. Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200) http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd... Your pics are interesting from a journalistic perspective (pun unintentional), but the tonal gradation from that 3200 film is shockingly bad, as is the grain, clearly visible even on the smallish images. If I had done a similar walk around a semi-derelict town and came back with images like those, I would be deeply disappointed. What do you think of them yourself? Would you use Delta again? Colin D. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Colin_D wrote:
Your pics are interesting from a journalistic perspective (pun unintentional), but the tonal gradation from that 3200 film is shockingly bad, as is the grain, clearly visible even on the smallish images. I'm not the photographer, but I'd like to throw my 2 cents in too. I disagree with you. The grain and lack of gradation give the pictures a look which I think goes well with the subject. They have the "look" of 1950's 35mm photography, or pre-WWII medium format. What I disliked is the lack of cropping. For example, the picture of the church has a large gray area in front of it. On paper, it may be the street, on my monitor it just is a mass of gray grain. There are no clouds in the sky ABOVE the steeple, so cropping there would make the picture more interesting and leave nothing out. On the whole, I think they would make a good exhibit on paper, and with some judicious cropping, a good web display would be better. If I had done a similar walk around a semi-derelict town and came back with images like those, I would be deeply disappointed. Everyone's taste is different. I found them interesting, well photographed and the choice of film suited the subject. Would Cartier-Bresson's (pardon any spelling mistakes) pictures of Paris look as good if shot on the latest Kodak Consumer color print film? Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ |
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Death of a Small Town
On Jan 30, 11:35*pm, The DaveŠ wrote:
JimKramer wrote: These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a small town near dusk. Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200) http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd... Interesting. *The extra grain of the 3200 enhances the feeling of bleakness. *How 'small' of a town is it? Gotta lose that background on the thumbnail page, though. Just under 6000 in the 2000 census. |
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On Jan 31, 1:47*am, wrote:
On Jan 31, 11:58 am, JimKramer wrote: These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a small town near dusk. Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200)http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd... Some very nice stuff there, Jim, but Dave's right- that background sucks - what were you thinking? (O: It also highlights (pun not intended..) the fact that those images are all a bit short on true blacks - is that an artistic choice? *I would have thought using the full dynamic range would add to the feeling, but I may be wrong. *And I guess going to full blacks might also over- emphasise the noise... I was thinking that you'd start with the first thumbnail and look at the frames rather than go back to the thumbnails. :-) |
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On Jan 31, 6:32 am, Colin_D wrote:
JimKramer wrote: These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a small town near dusk. Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200) http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd... Your pics are interesting from a journalistic perspective (pun unintentional), but the tonal gradation from that 3200 film is shockingly bad, as is the grain, clearly visible even on the smallish images. If I had done a similar walk around a semi-derelict town and came back with images like those, I would be deeply disappointed. What do you think of them yourself? Would you use Delta again? Colin D. -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com A few I like very much, most I would throw away, more I would like to re-shoot with a different format something with tilt/shift would be nice. Some I wished very much I had a color camera that I was carrying. There had been a fire and a storm was rolling in, so the sunset was very colorful, looked more like the sky was on fire. I have shot Delta 3200 since @ 1600 much cleaner and better tonality, but still grainy as sand. I achieved the effect that I wanted from this roll, so I got what I wanted, I just didn't like all of it. :-) |
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Death of a Small Town
On Jan 31, 6:54 am, (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote:
Colin_D wrote: Your pics are interesting from a journalistic perspective (pun unintentional), but the tonal gradation from that 3200 film is shockingly bad, as is the grain, clearly visible even on the smallish images. I'm not the photographer, but I'd like to throw my 2 cents in too. I disagree with you. The grain and lack of gradation give the pictures a look which I think goes well with the subject. They have the "look" of 1950's 35mm photography, or pre-WWII medium format. It's nice to know that I succeeded on this level, at least. What I disliked is the lack of cropping. For example, the picture of the church has a large gray area in front of it. On paper, it may be the street, on my monitor it just is a mass of gray grain. There are no clouds in the sky ABOVE the steeple, so cropping there would make the picture more interesting and leave nothing out. This is a link to the full scan at 2000 DPI, 4000 just made the grain stand out more and there was no additional discernable detail in the image. About 4MB http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/...08%20D3200.jpg So you see it is just a mass of gray and grain. :-) On the whole, I think they would make a good exhibit on paper, and with some judicious cropping, a good web display would be better. If I had done a similar walk around a semi-derelict town and came back with images like those, I would be deeply disappointed. Everyone's taste is different. I found them interesting, well photographed and the choice of film suited the subject. Thank you. Would Cartier-Bresson's (pardon any spelling mistakes) pictures of Paris look as good if shot on the latest Kodak Consumer color print film? Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog athttp://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ |
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[PICS] Death of a Small Town
Colin_D wrote:
JimKramer wrote: These are from this past summer, an entire roll of Delta 3200 in a small town near dusk. Death of a Small Town (An Evening With A Roll of Delta 3200) http://www.jlkramer.net/Pictures/LT/SmallTown1.htm The good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd... Your pics are interesting from a journalistic perspective (pun unintentional), but the tonal gradation from that 3200 film is shockingly bad, as is the grain, clearly visible even on the smallish images. To me, the grain was the whole point... to create/enhance the feeling of starkness and bleakness and portray the *feeling* of a dying town. To bring the viewer in with the sense of what must be a silent hopelessness for the residents. |
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