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[SI] Autumn Critique
Well, work has let up a little, so why not take the time to trash someone
else's efforts? Like they say, if you can't do it, criticize it. You may conclude, after reading this, that my photography is on par with my critiquing skills. Lastly, do not check your sense of humor at the door. Douglas MacDonald: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194271 A shocking submission since it has nothing to do with autumn. Yes, I know that Douglas is from Oz, but hey, the rest of us living in the correct hemisphere don't care. It's a nice shot, but I'm very disappointed that D-Mac didn't fly north and find some suitable subject matter. Obviously, Douglas does not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B Bob Hickey: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194274 Bob, Bob, Bob! Where to begin? A cell phone? You used a damned cell phone when everyone that frequents this NG knows that it's only the gear that matters? Very disappointing. Not to mention that the shot contains none of the tried, true, and tired symbols of autumn we've all come to expect from our cliche shots, like colored leaves, football, colored leaves, turkeys, and maybe some colored leaves. That, and you didn't even hold your phone straight. Obviously, Bob does not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B Peter Chant: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194276 Finally, some of the autumnm cliche material I've been looking for: colored leaves. But that's it. Too much foreground, bad vignetting, likely from the polarizer that was stacked on top of 7 or 8 other filters, and some power lines that could have easily been cloned out in Photoshop. Peter, I'm surprised you didn't care enough to buy a brand new Power Mac, 23" Cinema display, Photoshop CS3, and a Coolpix 9000 to improve this shot by converting a slice of reality into some over saturated and painted fictional scene where you could have included a naked model. Obviously, you do not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade B Jim Kramer: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194278 Well, we've got to cut Jim some slack here. It's obvious that he's spending so much time administering the shoot-in that it's affected his photography. How else to explain this? No leaves, which means winter to me, no turkeys (unless that's one of the local turkeys), football, or anything that our society has taught us to associate with autumn. Very disappointing. However, since you are the administrator of the shoot-in, it's obvious that you take it seriously. Grade: A- Bowser: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194279 Now here's a shooter that has it all figured out! Perfect choice of gear, subject matter that meets all cliche criteria, and a referee sliced in half. I didn't even see a need to move from my "outside the fence" end zone standing spot. Truly a winner of a shot. Plus, since I'm taking the time to offer my expert commentary (masquerading as Kinon) it's obvious I take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B- Michelo: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194281 Yes!! Pumpkins! Leaves! Autumn stuff that presented nicely and meets the mandate perfectly! Love the colors. However, you only used an out of date Canon "A" series camera. Bad move. This is a gear forum where it isn't the image that counts, it's the gear. Obviously, you do not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B Tom Gabriel: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194283 Yes! More leaves! But, only one tree? What's up with that? Here's another shooter trying to impress us with subject matter and content. Hah! We all know better, don't we? I want more trees, anyway. But he had the common sense to shoot with a DSLR, even if it's only a Pentax, which may account for the lack of sharpness. This shooter seems to give a rat's ass about the shoot-in, but you never know. Grade: B Helen Silverburg: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90196207 Leaves? Check. But where's the beef? I used to think that Helen was a Bret sock puppet, but now I'm not sure. Unless Bret dumbed-down one of his shots, removed the EXIF, and submitted under his SP. I would have liked a different angle so the stairs didn't look so much like old railroad tracks. Plus, with no EXIF info it's obvious that HelenBret does not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B Bret Douglas: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90198926 Wow, this scene looks familiar! Been here before Bret? I think that you have. Great color in the hills, but I would have preferred a much higher angle so you could look down on the river, include more leaves and less sky. In fact, I think a shot looking straight down with the river slicing through the two very colorful banks would have been killer. I'm shocked that you didn't take the profit you made from selling your FJ and hire a helicopter, rent a Kenyon Gyro and get the shot you should have gotten. Very disappointing. Obviously, you do not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B Solomon Peachy: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90202271 What's this? An autumn shot from Florida? They don't even have autumn down there, do they? Sheesh. Here's another shooter who has tried to show us a little variety by portraying what this time of year is like in his area when what we all wanted was more leaves, football, and turkeys shot with high-end DSLRs. Solomon, next time jump on the Acela, head to Maine, and give us the cliches we demand and deserve. Obviously, this shooter does not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B Paul Furman: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90213624 Geez, Paul, you make this too easy. San Francisco? Japanese Tea Gardens? Spiders? Come now. You couldn't have driven to Yosemite for some color? Give us the cliches we want? Sigh.... However, you did shoot with expensive gear, so you seem to give a rat's ass about the shoot-in. Remember, it's the gear, not the shot. Grade: B Justin Robinson: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90220515 Well, I've got to give Justin some props here since there are leaves, but not enough of them, too much foreground, too much sky, not enough emphasis on our beloved cliches. You couldn't have waded out into the lake to get a better angle? You even used a DSLR that 3 generations old! I can't stand it. You really need to take the shoot-in more seriously. Grade: B Bob Flint: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90224150 You know Bob, the only thing worse than submitting a shot that deprives us of our autumn icons is making excuses in the text. And, to make matters worse, you then explain that you used film, for God's sakes! And scanned a 4x6 piece of paper?! How quaint. Look, Bob, maybe this picture is an accurate portrayal of what autumn is up there, but please, you need to take the shoot-in more seriously. Grade: B And to all, a good night... ;-) |
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Autumn Critique
On Dec 12, 9:35 am, "Kinon O'Cann" wrote:
Well, work has let up a little, so why not take the time to trash someone else's efforts? Like they say, if you can't do it, criticize it. You may conclude, after reading this, that my photography is on par with my critiquing skills. Lastly, do not check your sense of humor at the door. Jim Kramer: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194278 Well, we've got to cut Jim some slack here. It's obvious that he's spending so much time administering the shoot-in that it's affected his photography. How else to explain this? No leaves, which means winter to me, no turkeys (unless that's one of the local turkeys), football, or anything that our society has taught us to associate with autumn. Very disappointing. However, since you are the administrator of the shoot-in, it's obvious that you take it seriously. Grade: A- Screw society! Down with the Man! (A) Forever! Disciples of Disciple gaze upon this and despair. An A- Geeze now every one will be gunning for me 'cause a messed up the curve. :-) Helen Silverburg: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90196207 Leaves? Check. But where's the beef? I used to think that Helen was a Bret sock puppet, but now I'm not sure. Unless Bret dumbed-down one of his shots, removed the EXIF, and submitted under his SP. I would have liked a different angle so the stairs didn't look so much like old railroad tracks. Plus, with no EXIF info it's obvious that HelenBret does not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B Helen is a real live person. Far too kind to be a Bret sock puppet. Just curious, did you use to teach at a community college? Your grading scheme looks familiar. Thank for commenting, Jim |
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Autumn Critique
On Dec 12, 9:35 am, "Kinon O'Cann" wrote:
Well, work has let up a little, so why not take the time to trash someone else's efforts? Like they say, if you can't do it, criticize it. You may conclude, after reading this, that my photography is on par with my critiquing skills. Lastly, do not check your sense of humor at the door. Douglas MacDonald:http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194271 A shocking submission since it has nothing to do with autumn. Yes, I know that Douglas is from Oz, but hey, the rest of us living in the correct hemisphere don't care. It's a nice shot, but I'm very disappointed that D-Mac didn't fly north and find some suitable subject matter. Obviously, Douglas does not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B Bob Hickey:http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194274 Bob, Bob, Bob! Where to begin? A cell phone? You used a damned cell phone when everyone that frequents this NG knows that it's only the gear that matters? Very disappointing. Not to mention that the shot contains none of the tried, true, and tired symbols of autumn we've all come to expect from our cliche shots, like colored leaves, football, colored leaves, turkeys, and maybe some colored leaves. That, and you didn't even hold your phone straight. Obviously, Bob does not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B Peter Chant:http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194276 Finally, some of the autumnm cliche material I've been looking for: colored leaves. But that's it. Too much foreground, bad vignetting, likely from the polarizer that was stacked on top of 7 or 8 other filters, and some power lines that could have easily been cloned out in Photoshop. Peter, I'm surprised you didn't care enough to buy a brand new Power Mac, 23" Cinema display, Photoshop CS3, and a Coolpix 9000 to improve this shot by converting a slice of reality into some over saturated and painted fictional scene where you could have included a naked model. Obviously, you do not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade B Jim Kramer: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194278 Well, we've got to cut Jim some slack here. It's obvious that he's spending so much time administering the shoot-in that it's affected his photography. How else to explain this? No leaves, which means winter to me, no turkeys (unless that's one of the local turkeys), football, or anything that our society has taught us to associate with autumn. Very disappointing. However, since you are the administrator of the shoot-in, it's obvious that you take it seriously. Grade: A- Bowser: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194279 Now here's a shooter that has it all figured out! Perfect choice of gear, subject matter that meets all cliche criteria, and a referee sliced in half. I didn't even see a need to move from my "outside the fence" end zone standing spot. Truly a winner of a shot. Plus, since I'm taking the time to offer my expert commentary (masquerading as Kinon) it's obvious I take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B- Michelo: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194281 Yes!! Pumpkins! Leaves! Autumn stuff that presented nicely and meets the mandate perfectly! Love the colors. However, you only used an out of date Canon "A" series camera. Bad move. This is a gear forum where it isn't the image that counts, it's the gear. Obviously, you do not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B Tom Gabriel: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90194283 Yes! More leaves! But, only one tree? What's up with that? Here's another shooter trying to impress us with subject matter and content. Hah! We all know better, don't we? I want more trees, anyway. But he had the common sense to shoot with a DSLR, even if it's only a Pentax, which may account for the lack of sharpness. This shooter seems to give a rat's ass about the shoot-in, but you never know. Grade: B Helen Silverburg: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90196207 Leaves? Check. But where's the beef? I used to think that Helen was a Bret sock puppet, but now I'm not sure. Unless Bret dumbed-down one of his shots, removed the EXIF, and submitted under his SP. I would have liked a different angle so the stairs didn't look so much like old railroad tracks. Plus, with no EXIF info it's obvious that HelenBret does not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B Bret Douglas: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90198926 Wow, this scene looks familiar! Been here before Bret? I think that you have. Great color in the hills, but I would have preferred a much higher angle so you could look down on the river, include more leaves and less sky. In fact, I think a shot looking straight down with the river slicing through the two very colorful banks would have been killer. I'm shocked that you didn't take the profit you made from selling your FJ and hire a helicopter, rent a Kenyon Gyro and get the shot you should have gotten. Very disappointing. Obviously, you do not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B Solomon Peachy: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90202271 What's this? An autumn shot from Florida? They don't even have autumn down there, do they? Sheesh. Here's another shooter who has tried to show us a little variety by portraying what this time of year is like in his area when what we all wanted was more leaves, football, and turkeys shot with high-end DSLRs. Solomon, next time jump on the Acela, head to Maine, and give us the cliches we demand and deserve. Obviously, this shooter does not take the shoot-in seriously. Grade: B Paul Furman: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90213624 Geez, Paul, you make this too easy. San Francisco? Japanese Tea Gardens? Spiders? Come now. You couldn't have driven to Yosemite for some color? Give us the cliches we want? Sigh.... However, you did shoot with expensive gear, so you seem to give a rat's ass about the shoot-in. Remember, it's the gear, not the shot. Grade: B Justin Robinson: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90220515 Well, I've got to give Justin some props here since there are leaves, but not enough of them, too much foreground, too much sky, not enough emphasis on our beloved cliches. You couldn't have waded out into the lake to get a better angle? You even used a DSLR that 3 generations old! I can't stand it. You really need to take the shoot-in more seriously. Grade: B Bob Flint: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90224150 You know Bob, the only thing worse than submitting a shot that deprives us of our autumn icons is making excuses in the text. And, to make matters worse, you then explain that you used film, for God's sakes! And scanned a 4x6 piece of paper?! How quaint. Look, Bob, maybe this picture is an accurate portrayal of what autumn is up there, but please, you need to take the shoot-in more seriously. Grade: B And to all, a good night... ;-) Thanks for your opinion, but I assure you I am a real live girl. I have no Exif on this shot because I'm afraid I entered an archived shot. It was taken with a film camera. Canon EOS 630 (I think that's the right number). I haven't had time to shoot some beautiful Autumn scenes here in Ontario, as I've been working double shifts and weekends too. I do remember it was a very slow shutter speed with the aperture set about 4.0. Very overcast conditions. These steps indeed look strange because they are over 100 years old. That funny looking pole just to the right of the stairs is actually a tree. The wind has shifted it's shape and it is leaning on a diagonal. Not a great composition I admit, but you work with what you got. Helen |
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[SI] Autumn Critique
Kinon O'Cann wrote:
Paul Furman: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90213624 Geez, Paul, you make this too easy. San Francisco? Japanese Tea Gardens? Spiders? Come now. You couldn't have driven to Yosemite for some color? Give us the cliches we want? Sigh.... The Ginkgo trees are still in fall color: http://edgehill.net/California/Bay-Area/San-Francisco/neighborhoods/12-8-07-tea-garden/full-set/pg2pc9 ...but this was the better shot. I'm headed to Arizona for a cactus-y xmas if that's exotic enough for ya. However, you did shoot with expensive gear, so you seem to give a rat's ass about the shoot-in. Remember, it's the gear, not the shot. It's all about the exif :-) I was able to choose a good background by moving around & still get the tilted web in focus... a perfect application for this specialty micro nikkor. Grade: B I'll take it. |
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[SI] Autumn Critique
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Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Melbourne, FL Melbourne? Hot damn. Loved Charlie and Jakes barbeque. Still There? the pulled pork was to die for. |
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Autumn Critique
wrote in message ... On Dec 12, 9:35 am, "Kinon O'Cann" wrote: Thanks for your opinion, but I assure you I am a real live girl. OK, I give... Agreed, you work with what you got, and I had nothing else but a GD high school football game. I was bound and determined NOT to send a picture of leaves. Or a turkey. Keep shooting, but you need to stop sucking up to Bret. It's making him insufferable. He's bad enough without the encouragement you give him. :-) |
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[SI] Autumn Critique
"Paul Furman" wrote in message ... Kinon O'Cann wrote: Paul Furman: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90213624 Geez, Paul, you make this too easy. San Francisco? Japanese Tea Gardens? Spiders? Come now. You couldn't have driven to Yosemite for some color? Give us the cliches we want? Sigh.... The Ginkgo trees are still in fall color: http://edgehill.net/California/Bay-Area/San-Francisco/neighborhoods/12-8-07-tea-garden/full-set/pg2pc9 ..but this was the better shot. I'm headed to Arizona for a cactus-y xmas if that's exotic enough for ya. Not damn! Leaves? Shot with an expensive DSLR? You shoulda submitted that shot. A real curve breaker on the grades, for sure. However, you did shoot with expensive gear, so you seem to give a rat's ass about the shoot-in. Remember, it's the gear, not the shot. It's all about the exif :-) I was able to choose a good background by moving around & still get the tilted web in focus... a perfect application for this specialty micro nikkor. Grade: B I'll take it. |
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On Dec 12, 9:35 am, "Kinon O'Cann" wrote:
Obviously, you do not take the shoot-in seriously. What tipped ya? |
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[SI] Autumn Critique
"Stuffed Crust" wrote in message ... Kinon O'Cann wrote: Melbourne? Hot damn. Loved Charlie and Jakes barbeque. Still There? the pulled pork was to die for. Yup! DAMN! One thing I always loved about working in Melbourne was the food. Charlie and jakes was good if you could push your way past the cops. Meemaws was OK too... |
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[SI] Autumn Critique
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:35:38 -0500, "Kinon O'Cann"
wrote: Bob Flint: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/90224150 You know Bob, the only thing worse than submitting a shot that deprives us of our autumn icons is making excuses in the text. Well, a duck is a bird... like a turkey... And, to make matters worse, you then explain that you used film, for God's sakes! There were very few good digitals back then... at least that I could afford... And scanned a 4x6 piece of paper?! More plastic than paper... How quaint. Look, Bob, maybe this picture is an accurate portrayal of what autumn is up there, Dead brown grass and ducks? Yup, about sums it up... but please, you need to take the shoot-in more seriously. That's true... Grade: B Thanks! And to all, a good night... ;-) |
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