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Getting that film look
There have been a lot of people who say they just don't like the look
of digital photos, that they look flat or like plastic. There are some people who will not care, they just don't like the idea of digital. But for those people who might want to use a ditial camera and get at least some of the look of film this might be valuable to look at. Others my have better methods of getting that film look, I would love to hear them. Digital cameras try to get the most accurate capture of a scene that they can. Whereas a digital capture might be very accurate it will not be to everybody's taste. Film, particularly slide film, boosts the contrast of a scene, this also makes the colors more vivid. This is a scan of one of my Kodachrome slides that shows the kind of look you get from Kodachrome. http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746257 This is what is more typical out of a digital camera http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746256 So if I want to get a more film like look what can I do? What I have done in this next image is to make a copy of background layer and then boost the contrast of the copy way up, I then mix 50% of each layer to get this photo http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746255 To my eye this now looks much closer to a kodachrome scan then the original photo does. It is important to note that a scan of a slide does not just have more saturated colors, this is what I get if I just boost the saturation of the digital photo. http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746254 To my eye that is just ugly So why start with a digital file that just needs to be adjusted when you could shoot film? For some shooting film would be the right thing to do. But for others the advantages of shooting digital would come into play and doing some adjustments to the photo would not be a big deal. My point in all of this is that a digital photo starts out life as a fairly neutral thing, we then can make of it what we wish. I should also point out that most digital cameras allow a boost of contrast in the camera setting, I don't like to shoot this way but if someone really did not want to adjust photos afterwards this is an option. The other options is to adjust the look of the photo when converting from raw, this has limits but you can get a wide range of looks and once you have the first file converted you can use the same setting for the rest of the photos. For me I like the digital look, perhaps because it is not what I am use to, but I can see where other might like the film look more. Scott |
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This would be much more valuable if you showed the same scene.
Scott W wrote: There have been a lot of people who say they just don't like the look of digital photos, that they look flat or like plastic. There are some people who will not care, they just don't like the idea of digital. But for those people who might want to use a ditial camera and get at least some of the look of film this might be valuable to look at. Others my have better methods of getting that film look, I would love to hear them. Digital cameras try to get the most accurate capture of a scene that they can. Whereas a digital capture might be very accurate it will not be to everybody's taste. Film, particularly slide film, boosts the contrast of a scene, this also makes the colors more vivid. This is a scan of one of my Kodachrome slides that shows the kind of look you get from Kodachrome. http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746257 This is what is more typical out of a digital camera http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746256 So if I want to get a more film like look what can I do? What I have done in this next image is to make a copy of background layer and then boost the contrast of the copy way up, I then mix 50% of each layer to get this photo http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746255 To my eye this now looks much closer to a kodachrome scan then the original photo does. It is important to note that a scan of a slide does not just have more saturated colors, this is what I get if I just boost the saturation of the digital photo. http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746254 To my eye that is just ugly So why start with a digital file that just needs to be adjusted when you could shoot film? For some shooting film would be the right thing to do. But for others the advantages of shooting digital would come into play and doing some adjustments to the photo would not be a big deal. My point in all of this is that a digital photo starts out life as a fairly neutral thing, we then can make of it what we wish. I should also point out that most digital cameras allow a boost of contrast in the camera setting, I don't like to shoot this way but if someone really did not want to adjust photos afterwards this is an option. The other options is to adjust the look of the photo when converting from raw, this has limits but you can get a wide range of looks and once you have the first file converted you can use the same setting for the rest of the photos. For me I like the digital look, perhaps because it is not what I am use to, but I can see where other might like the film look more. Scott |
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Others my have better methods of getting that film look, I would love to
hear them. Use film ? "Scott W" wrote in message oups.com... There have been a lot of people who say they just don't like the look of digital photos, that they look flat or like plastic. There are some people who will not care, they just don't like the idea of digital. But for those people who might want to use a ditial camera and get at least some of the look of film this might be valuable to look at. Others my have better methods of getting that film look, I would love to hear them. Digital cameras try to get the most accurate capture of a scene that they can. Whereas a digital capture might be very accurate it will not be to everybody's taste. Film, particularly slide film, boosts the contrast of a scene, this also makes the colors more vivid. This is a scan of one of my Kodachrome slides that shows the kind of look you get from Kodachrome. http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746257 This is what is more typical out of a digital camera http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746256 So if I want to get a more film like look what can I do? What I have done in this next image is to make a copy of background layer and then boost the contrast of the copy way up, I then mix 50% of each layer to get this photo http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746255 To my eye this now looks much closer to a kodachrome scan then the original photo does. It is important to note that a scan of a slide does not just have more saturated colors, this is what I get if I just boost the saturation of the digital photo. http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746254 To my eye that is just ugly So why start with a digital file that just needs to be adjusted when you could shoot film? For some shooting film would be the right thing to do. But for others the advantages of shooting digital would come into play and doing some adjustments to the photo would not be a big deal. My point in all of this is that a digital photo starts out life as a fairly neutral thing, we then can make of it what we wish. I should also point out that most digital cameras allow a boost of contrast in the camera setting, I don't like to shoot this way but if someone really did not want to adjust photos afterwards this is an option. The other options is to adjust the look of the photo when converting from raw, this has limits but you can get a wide range of looks and once you have the first file converted you can use the same setting for the rest of the photos. For me I like the digital look, perhaps because it is not what I am use to, but I can see where other might like the film look more. Scott |
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UC wrote: This would be much more valuable if you showed the same scene. True, but then I don't shoot Kodachrome anymore. I am sure that I have not duplicated the exact look of Kodachrome, or any other slide film, but I believe it is much closer to the look of a slide then the photo right out of the camera. The grass in particular look much more like a slide scan in the processed image, at least to my eye. Scott |
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Joseph Kewfi wrote:
Others my have better methods of getting that film look, I would love to hear them. Use film ? This is one options, but not for me. It takes me less time to adjust the digital photo then it does to photoshop out the dust on a slide, much less the scratches on a negative. Scott |
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I use to hear this years ago when I did professional video production on
videotape, 1" and Beta SP for those of you familiar with the formats. All I heard was lets soften the camera, or do this or that to get "the film look." It is f'ing video not film. I told them if they want the so called "film look" then shoot the damn stuff on film. Now it is happening all over again with digital. If you want it to look like film then, you guessed it, shoot it on film. |
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I have heard these kinds of comments and often find that they are sort of an urban legend similar to some who insist tube amplifiers sound better than solid-state amplifiers. Double-blind tests always do them in (they can't consistently identify the type of amplifier). Some photography folks are truly informed and prefer film, but they are not always the ones making these kinds of comments. As you pointed out, digital manipulation can produce various effects. |
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As you pointed out, digital manipulation can produce various effects.
One of these such effects is to make the corporations involved profits fatter. "Charles Schuler" wrote in message ... I have heard these kinds of comments and often find that they are sort of an urban legend similar to some who insist tube amplifiers sound better than solid-state amplifiers. Double-blind tests always do them in (they can't consistently identify the type of amplifier). Some photography folks are truly informed and prefer film, but they are not always the ones making these kinds of comments. As you pointed out, digital manipulation can produce various effects. |
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Getting that film look
Scott W wrote:
O.K., avoiding the great debate (for the moment). Just, all your pictures have an American flag in them: Is it an article of the Patriot Act that all photos need to have a US flag in them? I've lived in seven different countries and, AFAIK, I have no pictures of flags. Oh well, de gustibus... |
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Getting that film look
This is what is more typical out of a digital camera
http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746256 So if I want to get a more film like look what can I do? What I have done in this next image is to make a copy of background layer and then boost the contrast of the copy way up, I then mix 50% of each layer to get this photo http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746255 To my eye this now looks much closer to a kodachrome scan then the original photo does. It is important to note that a scan of a slide does not just have more saturated colors, this is what I get if I just boost the saturation of the digital photo. http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/53746254 To my eye that is just ugly 256 doesn't look particularly like sharp digital to me but I note shadow detail and reasonable skin tone... 255 has lost the shadow detail... 254 has shadow detail but more extreme skin tone... |
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