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Rockwell on DSLR vs. P&S
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:04:31 -0500, Doug McDonald
wrote: David Ruether wrote: "David Ruether" wrote in message ... I should have this up in an hour or so, but I will put up comparison photos at www.doughicksphotography.com/comparison.htm. of a D1x with an 18-70mm at 18mm and f4 and a Sony 707 at 10mm and f4.5 (about the same angle of view). The files will be very large... -- David Ruether YIKES!!! I had no idea that this would result in so much, uh, conversation...! 8^) BTW, That's an interesting comparison. Especially since it clearly shows the superiority of the Nikon. Look, for example, at the wheel rim of the farther car. How many holes does it have? What is their shape? Also, look at the lateral chromatic aberration. Doug McDonald Look at the fact that the dslr is using more zoom. Why can't it match let alone beat the detail in all the leaves and grass and asphalt? You know, the other 99.9% of the photo. What? It can only pick out the larger details when zoomed-in more? Then explain the missing texture, important LARGE texture, from the yellow stripes in the street. Oh wait, that's right, someone already said that the sun was in its eyes. Even though the shadows already show that that's not true. The dslr couldn't compensate for it properly because it's not as good as the P&S camera, but they seemed to overlook that little problem too. It's either missing detail from blown highlights, or the dslr can't take a proper exposure, being able to record the full dynamic range which is easily visible in the P&S camera. Which is it? (all of those reasons) Keep trying. LOL Amazing, a dslr that can't even compete with a P&S camera. Well, it's not really amazing. It's only amazing to those dslr fools that have never looked through anything but their lousy dslrs, for which they have to incessantly try to find excuses (full of holes) to justify why they spent so much on them. One recent comparison of Roger's MkII against a Panasonic FZ18 showed the very same improvement if not even more capability of the P&S cameras. Roger had to lock up the mirror, mount the camera on a tripod, use expensive L-glass and he still couldn't beat the resolution and detail in a HAND HELD FZ18. Then he comes back trying to post even better photos to try to wipe that huge omelet that's still smeared all over his camera and face. LOL You dslr people sure are a good source of laughs, I'll give you that much. |
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Rockwell on DSLR vs. P&S
chester_baddington wrote:
Look at the fact that the dslr is using more zoom. That's immaterial at the teensy difference. Why can't it match let alone beat the detail in all the leaves and grass and asphalt? It does beat the Sony there. The Sony is seriously "shapness-enhanced" to the point of halos. Befor vcomparing them, you MUST either sharpen the Nikon or unsharpen the Sony. This I did by sharpening the Nikon before making the comparison. You know, the other 99.9% of the photo. What? It can only pick out the larger details when zoomed-in more? Then explain the missing texture, important LARGE texture, from the yellow stripes in the street. The detail Keep trying. LOL I don;t have to ... I've proven my points. Doug McDonald |
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Rockwell on DSLR vs. P&S
"chester_baddington" wrote in message ... You dslr people sure are a good source of laughs, I'll give you that much. So trade your PoS in on a camera-phone like most of the population. I'm sure it will be more than good enough for your requirements. MrT. |
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Rockwell on DSLR vs. P&S
JoelJameson wrote:
Sharpening artifacts? Try again. There's no way that sharpening artifacts will account for all these extra blades of grass and extra leaves in the P&S camera which can't be reclaimed in the DSLR photo. There isn't more detail, there is coarse noise reduced, oversharpened exaggerated detail. If you apply sharpening to both, you can see the P&S is more coarse and contrasty, the DSLR is finer with more detail. In fact, since the DSLR image is zoomed in slightly more than the P&S camera you'd think it would EASILY provide more detail. Best I could figure, the DSLR pixels are enlarged. I'm not clear on that or how you are figuring this. Even with that extra zoom going for it the DSLR creates muddier details and less of them, and it has NOTHING to do with the lens in use. The DSLR image is more subtle because it's not been oversharpened or contrast applied, what do you see he http://edgehill.net/temp/d1x-707/pg1pc4 (heavy but equal sharpening applied to both for emphasis) Which has more detail? Which has huge colored halos? Which has strange glop in the shadows? Which has blocky jpeg artifacts? Which has strange colors where no colors exist? |
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chester_baddington wrote:
You dslr people sure are a good source of laughs, I'll give you that much. Since you have to change your online name daily to escape filters, you're only a sink for pity. |
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Rockwell on DSLR vs. P&S
"D-Mac" wrote in message ... .. Once the images meet a certain level for quality, they have to meet a "content" measurement because that's what sells. The content. If you can't capture an opportunist photo or one that produces an Ohhh, Arrrr from a viewer, you join the *elite* few who spend their life in envy of people who make a living doing what they want to do but their perfectionist nature prevents them from doing. Doug I guess that accounts for the phenomenal sales of Elvis Presley portraits on black velvet from Tijuana. Bob Hickey |
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Rockwell on DSLR vs. P&S
On Oct 14, 4:30 pm, "hickster11" wrote:
"D-Mac" wrote in message |
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"David J. Littleboy" wrote in message ... Giuliani (what's he on: his fourth or is it his fifth wife**)? David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan Giuliani"s fourth was a lesbian marraige and not legal in N.Y.S. which always accounts for some confusion. Bob Hickey |
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Rockwell on DSLR vs. P&S
On Oct 14, 4:57 pm, "hickster11" wrote:
Giuliani"s fourth was a lesbian marraige and not legal in N.Y.S. which always accounts for some confusion. Bob Hickey Yes, but I heard he looked lovely in his chiffon dress. |
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