Something to be said for smartphones

My wife and I just returned home from two months in Medellin, Colombia

(Got out just in time as all is shut down now.)

My preference for photography is to take random "people" street scenes.


Because my days of printing large images for exhibition are mostly over,
I did not have my phone camera set for maximum resolution but I did get
a chance to record the life there.


Here, a barber has used a so called "pirate" outlet with an extension
cord wired right in to the power lines. Although we made eye contact, my
phone was just held loosely at my waste and he did not notice I was
taking his photo.


I took thousands of shots like this and it would have been impossible to
sneak such shots with a camera.


Image may take some time to load from Google and I think the upload
reduced the resolution further...but you should get then idea.

Next time I go, I might shoot at higher res.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/nbaFeAPBMFvo2KSE6

In article , philo
wrote:

Here, a barber has used a so called "pirate" outlet with an extension
cord wired right in to the power lines. Although we made eye contact, my
phone was just held loosely at my waste and he did not notice I was
taking his photo.

'waist', and that's incredibly creepy and likely illegal.

I took thousands of shots like this and it would have been impossible to
sneak such shots with a camera.

of course it's possible.

people have been attacked or arrested for doing such things.

On 24/03/2020 15:37, nospam wrote:
In article , philo
wrote:

Here, a barber has used a so called "pirate" outlet with an extension
cord wired right in to the power lines. Although we made eye contact, my
phone was just held loosely at my waste and he did not notice I was
taking his photo.

'waist', and that's incredibly creepy and likely illegal.

I took thousands of shots like this and it would have been impossible to
sneak such shots with a camera.

of course it's possible.

people have been attacked or arrested for doing such things.

This is the very same Philo who once described you as a Troll.

What say you?

On 3/24/20 11:37 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , philo
wrote:

Here, a barber has used a so called "pirate" outlet with an extension
cord wired right in to the power lines. Although we made eye contact, my
phone was just held loosely at my waste and he did not notice I was
taking his photo.

'waist', and that's incredibly creepy and likely illegal.

"Creepy" doesn't have a definition in law.
As for illegal: the photo appears to be on a public street, where the
individual has no expectation of privacy. Now, if Philo uses this photo
commercially, he might need a model release. If he uses it in a
journalistic context, probably not. Of course, Colombia may have
different standards from the USA.


I took thousands of shots like this and it would have been impossible to
sneak such shots with a camera.

of course it's possible.

people have been attacked or arrested for doing such things.

Arrested? What's the charge?

--
Ken Hart

In article , Ken Hart
wrote:

Here, a barber has used a so called "pirate" outlet with an extension
cord wired right in to the power lines. Although we made eye contact, my
phone was just held loosely at my waste and he did not notice I was
taking his photo.

'waist', and that's incredibly creepy and likely illegal.

"Creepy" doesn't have a definition in law.

nobody said it did.

As for illegal: the photo appears to be on a public street, where the
individual has no expectation of privacy.

true, but they *do* have an expectation that someone isn't secretly
taking their photo without permission and posting it on the internet,
especially while they're committing an illegal act.

Now, if Philo uses this photo
commercially, he might need a model release. If he uses it in a
journalistic context, probably not. Of course, Colombia may have
different standards from the USA.

both individuals are recognizable and it's *not* being used in a
journalistic context. it's actually being used in a voyeuristic
context.

but whatever the law might be there, it doesn't eliminate the creep
factor.

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 12:19:53 -0400, Ken Hart
wrote:

Of course, Colombia may have
different standards from the USA.

Or none at all. I sure wouldn't want to tangle with the legal system
there, assuming there happens to be one where you get into trouble.
And street justice from an angry subject of your photo? Good luck. How
friendly does that barber look to you?

On 3/24/20 11:19 AM, Ken Hart wrote:
On 3/24/20 11:37 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , philo
wrote:

Here, a barber has used a so called "pirate" outlet with an extension
cord wired right in to the power lines. Although we made eye contact, my
phone was just held loosely at my waste and he did not notice I was
taking his photo.

'waist', and that's incredibly creepy and likely illegal.

"Creepy" doesn't have a definition in law.
As for illegal: the photo appears to be on a public street, where the
individual has no expectation of privacy. Now, if Philo uses this photo
commercially, he might need a model release. If he uses it in a
journalistic context, probably not. Of course, Colombia may have
different standards from the USA.


I took thousands of shots like this and it would have been impossible to
sneak such shots with a camera.

of course it's possible.

people have been attacked or arrested for doing such things.

Arrested? What's the charge?



I deleted that "no spam" guy a long time ago.

He indeed is a troll

On 3/24/20 9:03 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 12:19:53 -0400, Ken Hart
wrote:

Of course, Colombia may have
different standards from the USA.

Or none at all. I sure wouldn't want to tangle with the legal system
there, assuming there happens to be one where you get into trouble.
And street justice from an angry subject of your photo? Good luck. How
friendly does that barber look to you?




Though he does not look to friendly we found that most Colombians are
generally warm and caring.

On the Metro, seats are *always* given to women and the elderly. I'm 70
and had to smile and refuse, a dozen times.


As to the justice system, the police are everywhere and generally 25
year old men.
More there to help than threaten.

The crime rate is lower that most US cities and for the most part, petty.


The used appliance store , at night just lets their stuff sit there a
few feet from the sidewalk.
There is now even a door on the building!



Most people know of Medellin as the most dangerous place on Earth...and
it was 25 years ago.


The military went in and cleaned things up.


Very family oriented here is a typical scene, father and son


https://photos.app.goo.gl/hnLH8ZUd2Es6D9Jo7



man enjoying his beer

https://photos.app.goo.gl/r2PUiRETRhjKwbLZ7


typical street scene
https://photos.app.goo.gl/uq8fccdRzHQUc2ZT8





Hey. I have wheels. I'm hauling freignt. I can use the damn road

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6QwdEwrXcirM4WfB6

philo wrote:
On 3/24/20 9:03 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 12:19:53 -0400, Ken Hart
wrote:

Of course, Colombia may have
different standards from the USA.

Or none at all. I sure wouldn't want to tangle with the legal system
there, assuming there happens to be one where you get into trouble.
And street justice from an angry subject of your photo? Good luck. How
friendly does that barber look to you?




Though he does not look to friendly we found that most Colombians are
generally warm and caring.

On the Metro, seats are *always* given to women and the elderly. I'm 70
and had to smile and refuse, a dozen times.


As to the justice system, the police are everywhere and generally 25
year old men.
More there to help than threaten.

The crime rate is lower that most US cities and for the most part, petty.


The used appliance store , at night just lets their stuff sit there a
few feet from the sidewalk.
There is now even a door on the building!



Most people know of Medellin as the most dangerous place on Earth...and
it was 25 years ago.


The military went in and cleaned things up.


Very family oriented here is a typical scene, father and son


https://photos.app.goo.gl/hnLH8ZUd2Es6D9Jo7



man enjoying his beer

https://photos.app.goo.gl/r2PUiRETRhjKwbLZ7


typical street scene
https://photos.app.goo.gl/uq8fccdRzHQUc2ZT8





Hey. I have wheels. I'm hauling freignt. I can use the damn road

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6QwdEwrXcirM4WfB6



It seems that clandestine, opportunistic, candid street photography with a
smartphone does not lend itself to thoughtful framing, or composition.

Philo, I know that you could have done better with your regular cameras, or
if you had taken a tad more care, and/or deliberation with your smartphone.
After all the phone I.Q. Is certainly good enough.



--
Regards,
Savageduck

On 3/25/20 12:47 AM, Savageduck wrote:
philo wrote:
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As to the justice system, the police are everywhere and generally 25
year old men.
More there to help than threaten.

The crime rate is lower that most US cities and for the most part, petty.


The used appliance store , at night just lets their stuff sit there a
few feet from the sidewalk.
There is now even a door on the building!



Most people know of Medellin as the most dangerous place on Earth...and
it was 25 years ago.


The military went in and cleaned things up.


Very family oriented here is a typical scene, father and son


https://photos.app.goo.gl/hnLH8ZUd2Es6D9Jo7



man enjoying his beer

https://photos.app.goo.gl/r2PUiRETRhjKwbLZ7


typical street scene
https://photos.app.goo.gl/uq8fccdRzHQUc2ZT8





Hey. I have wheels. I'm hauling freignt. I can use the damn road

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6QwdEwrXcirM4WfB6



It seems that clandestine, opportunistic, candid street photography with a
smartphone does not lend itself to thoughtful framing, or composition.

Philo, I know that you could have done better with your regular cameras, or
if you had taken a tad more care, and/or deliberation with your smartphone.
After all the phone I.Q. Is certainly good enough.




It is very easy for me to frame and crop after the fact.
Most of these were taken while I was walking quite rapidly and there is
no way I would have been able to stop and compose.

Had I seen something interesting, it would have been gone in an instant,


As I mentioned, I am no longer printing and exhibiting. These random
shots , I posted to Facebook everyday to give the people back home the
feel of what it's like to walk the streets of Medellin