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LOST PICTURES ---- HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:12:26 -0500, M-M wrote:
In article , RainLover wrote: I got some software recover program and took a look... there were some photos! but... They were photos I took back in MARCH of this year and purposely deleted back then! I'll bet you have the wrong card in your hand. That one is indeed empty. Keep looking for the other one. I WISH it were that easy. I only own TWO cards... both SCAN DISK, one is 512 and one is 3 gigs. James. |
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On Nov 7, 8:08 pm, RainLover
wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:49:19 -0000, wrote: No need to panic James, you can have your pictures back. Try Stellar Phoenix Digital Media Recovery Software. It Recovers lost or deleted digital pictures from: Memory Sticks, Flash Cards, Sony Memory Stick, IBM Micro Drive, SD Cards, MMC Cards, XD Cards, Secure Digital Card, Zip Disks, Mini Disks. This Advanced Photo Recovery Software supports all major camera manufacturers, including: Nikon (NEF) Canon (CRW, CR2) Olympus (ORF) Sony (SR2, ARW files)Kodak (K25, KDC, DCR) Fuji (RAF) Minolta (MRW) Pentax (PEF) Sigma (X3F) Download the demo version from:http://www.stellarinfo.com/digital-media-recovery.htm I tried a recovery program and it found 500 mb of photos on my 'empty' card... the only problem is, they are photos I took back in MARCH and had long ago deleted... I don't know why THEY stayed while the more recent Africa photos vanished... very odd.... James This is the most interesting thing you've said all day. I am assuming this is your 3gb card with the lost images. You've recovered 500mb of trash. You other card, 512mb, works fine. Again, you're recovered 512 mb. My guess, and this is PURELY speculation, is that you need to update your card reader driver and that it is having difficulty recognizing any part of the card above 512mb. I would meet with CJ and see what he can pull off. If you don't do that, put a recover program (full version, not trial version) on some other, newer computer and try the recover again. |
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:28:20 -0800, Pat
wrote: On Nov 7, 8:08 pm, RainLover wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:49:19 -0000, wrote: No need to panic James, you can have your pictures back. Try Stellar Phoenix Digital Media Recovery Software. It Recovers lost or deleted digital pictures from: Memory Sticks, Flash Cards, Sony Memory Stick, IBM Micro Drive, SD Cards, MMC Cards, XD Cards, Secure Digital Card, Zip Disks, Mini Disks. This Advanced Photo Recovery Software supports all major camera manufacturers, including: Nikon (NEF) Canon (CRW, CR2) Olympus (ORF) Sony (SR2, ARW files)Kodak (K25, KDC, DCR) Fuji (RAF) Minolta (MRW) Pentax (PEF) Sigma (X3F) Download the demo version from:http://www.stellarinfo.com/digital-media-recovery.htm I tried a recovery program and it found 500 mb of photos on my 'empty' card... the only problem is, they are photos I took back in MARCH and had long ago deleted... I don't know why THEY stayed while the more recent Africa photos vanished... very odd.... James This is the most interesting thing you've said all day. I am assuming this is your 3gb card with the lost images. You've recovered 500mb of trash. You other card, 512mb, works fine. Again, you're recovered 512 mb. My guess, and this is PURELY speculation, is that you need to update your card reader driver and that it is having difficulty recognizing any part of the card above 512mb. I would meet with CJ and see what he can pull off. If you don't do that, put a recover program (full version, not trial version) on some other, newer computer and try the recover again. Hi, No.. my large card is just fine. My SMALLER one (512mb) came home utterly EMPTY... the data recover software found 500mb of previously deleted (6 month ago) pictures, but NOT ONE FROM AFRICA. It's VERY strange, because while in Africa, I was reviewing photos every day and they were all there... somehow THOSE vanished, but not the previously deleted photos. From my very limited knowledge of how memory hardware works, when you 'delete' you're simply removing the first letter of the file name and it 'vanishes', but as you put NEW information onto the card, the older, invisible stuff is permanently removed. If I'm right, I don't know how I could view all of the photos for a week, but then, in the end, they not be there, nor did they displace the much older, already-deleted files. I'm afraid all is lost...... and those lost pictures where the BEST part of Africa (crying). James |
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RainLover wrote:
On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:28:20 -0800, Pat wrote: On Nov 7, 8:08 pm, RainLover wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:49:19 -0000, wrote: No need to panic James, you can have your pictures back. Try Stellar Phoenix Digital Media Recovery Software. It Recovers lost or deleted digital pictures from: Memory Sticks, Flash Cards, Sony Memory Stick, IBM Micro Drive, SD Cards, MMC Cards, XD Cards, Secure Digital Card, Zip Disks, Mini Disks. This Advanced Photo Recovery Software supports all major camera manufacturers, including: Nikon (NEF) Canon (CRW, CR2) Olympus (ORF) Sony (SR2, ARW files)Kodak (K25, KDC, DCR) Fuji (RAF) Minolta (MRW) Pentax (PEF) Sigma (X3F) Download the demo version from:http://www.stellarinfo.com/digital-media-recovery.htm I tried a recovery program and it found 500 mb of photos on my 'empty' card... the only problem is, they are photos I took back in MARCH and had long ago deleted... I don't know why THEY stayed while the more recent Africa photos vanished... very odd.... James This is the most interesting thing you've said all day. I am assuming this is your 3gb card with the lost images. You've recovered 500mb of trash. You other card, 512mb, works fine. Again, you're recovered 512 mb. My guess, and this is PURELY speculation, is that you need to update your card reader driver and that it is having difficulty recognizing any part of the card above 512mb. I would meet with CJ and see what he can pull off. If you don't do that, put a recover program (full version, not trial version) on some other, newer computer and try the recover again. Hi, No.. my large card is just fine. My SMALLER one (512mb) came home utterly EMPTY... the data recover software found 500mb of previously deleted (6 month ago) pictures, but NOT ONE FROM AFRICA. It's VERY strange, because while in Africa, I was reviewing photos every day and they were all there... somehow THOSE vanished, but not the previously deleted photos. From my very limited knowledge of how memory hardware works, when you 'delete' you're simply removing the first letter of the file name and it 'vanishes', but as you put NEW information onto the card, the older, invisible stuff is permanently removed. If I'm right, I don't know how I could view all of the photos for a week, but then, in the end, they not be there, nor did they displace the much older, already-deleted files. That is what is very weird indeed. Have you any idea what proportion of 512Mb your African pictues took? You're quite sure there aren't any extra folders on the card in which those images are tucked away? You didn't annoy any witch doctors while in Africa? If it was me I'd be tempted to suppose that this is so impossible that I would have to start considering the incredible, such as that possibly I'm mistaken in one of my firm convictions, e.g. about which card. -- Chris Malcolm DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] |
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Chris Malcolm wrote:
[] If it was me I'd be tempted to suppose that this is so impossible that I would have to start considering the incredible, such as that possibly I'm mistaken in one of my firm convictions, e.g. about which card. I explained just how this can happen (as It's happened to me), but the OP hasn't yet got back with the likelihood of it actually being the cause. Cheers, David |
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RainLover wrote:
I'm hoping SOMEONE here can help me. I just arrived home from a 3 week trip to Africa and was blown away to discover one of my memory cards is EMPTY!!!!!!!!!!!! Now, to make it even odder, I was reviewing pictures everyday, so they WERE on the card. I got some software recover program and took a look... there were some photos! but... They were photos I took back in MARCH of this year and purposely deleted back then! WHAT HAPPENED TO MY PICTURES????? Any ideas? The only think I can think of is that particular card was in my checked luggage and something ZAPPED it... be even so, why did my old, deleted pictures stay and the brand new ones vanish? Help, Help, Help! Any suggestions on recovering them???? James If there are images from an earlier shoot on the card, then either the card was rewritten from a folder on your computer which contains the older data, overwriting the African images - which I find very unlikely, since you would have had to copy the folder to the card by mistake, instead of copying the card to the folder; or the card never did have the African images on it, since saving those images would have overwritten the older images. In other words, if the African images were on the card while in Africa, and they aren't there now, then you must somehow have overwritten the card with the older images when you put the card into your computer. The African images would have overwritten the older images, so they are no longer on the card. The fact that the older images are now on the card means that either the African images were never on the card at all, or you overwrote them with your computer. In many respects, cards are like cassette tapes. If you record over old tracks with new music, the old tracks no longer exist. If the old tracks exist, then either you didn't record over them, or you wrote them back again. Getting zapped in your luggage is not possible. Forget that theory. One other thought strikes, a bit of a long shot, but ... If it is a SD (secure digital) card, it will have a tiny slide switch on one edge which will prevent writing to the card. If this switch is in the secure position, and your camera has some amount of built-in memory, then you may have been looking at that memory when you checked your images - but they weren't written to the card. If that's the case, then you don't need to be told the bad news. Colin D. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:56:07 GMT, "David J Taylor"
wrote: : RainLover wrote: : [] : - Pictures where viewable throughout Africa : - It's an SD 512mb card (thank god it was THAT one and not my 3gig one : - once I arrived back in the states, the camera says 'emtpy card' : - putting the SD into a slot on my home computer (and it shows empty) : : The REALLY weird thing is that when I use a recovery program, it FINDS : files that I DELETED back in March, but NOTHING for last week. : : I'm trying to get over the grief since I think all is lost, but ANY : suggestions would be welcomed : : James, Port Orchard (near Seattle), WA, USA, Earth : : Possibility: : : - before Africa, when you last used the card in your computer, you did not : "safely eject" it. : : - when you replaced the card in the computer, it rewrote the directory of : contents which it had before Africa, thus "erasing" what you wrote in : Africa. That seems far-fetched. The reason you "safely eject" a device is to make sure that any cached updates have been written back to the media. That's unlikely to be an issue with a card reader, since reading a card doesn't normally affect the data that's on it. An exception would be if the user had moved, rather than copied, images from the reader to the computer. But even then, the effect of the premature eject should be to preserve (on the card) images that would otherwise be deleted. And once the card has been removed, the computer is unlikely to retain any memory of having seen it. So the next time it's inserted into the reader, the putative update would be unlikely to occur. One possibility that hasn't been mentioned is that the OP inadvertently deleted the folder with the Africa images while the card was still in the camera. I don't think my Canons let you do that (i.e., delete an entire folder without actually formatting the card), but I suppose other cameras may be different in that respect. Bob |
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:36:58 +1300, Colin_D wrote:
: RainLover wrote: : I'm hoping SOMEONE here can help me. : : I just arrived home from a 3 week trip to Africa and was blown away to : discover one of my memory cards is EMPTY!!!!!!!!!!!! : : Now, to make it even odder, I was reviewing pictures everyday, so they : WERE on the card. : : I got some software recover program and took a look... there were some : photos! but... They were photos I took back in MARCH of this year : and purposely deleted back then! : : WHAT HAPPENED TO MY PICTURES????? : : Any ideas? : : The only think I can think of is that particular card was in my : checked luggage and something ZAPPED it... be even so, why did my old, : deleted pictures stay and the brand new ones vanish? : : : Help, Help, Help! Any suggestions on recovering them???? : : : James : : : If there are images from an earlier shoot on the card, then either the : card was rewritten from a folder on your computer which contains the : older data, overwriting the African images - which I find very unlikely, : since you would have had to copy the folder to the card by mistake, : instead of copying the card to the folder; or the card never did have : the African images on it, since saving those images would have : overwritten the older images. : : In other words, if the African images were on the card while in Africa, : and they aren't there now, then you must somehow have overwritten the : card with the older images when you put the card into your computer. : The African images would have overwritten the older images, so they are : no longer on the card. The fact that the older images are now on the : card means that either the African images were never on the card at all, : or you overwrote them with your computer. A third possibility is that they're in a separate folder that has somehow gone unnoticed. That the images got put in a separate folder isn't far-fetched. Apparently this was the second card used on the trip, and there were other images (albeit deleted) already on the card. So there would be a sequencing break, which might well cause a new folder to be created. It *is* far-fetched that the folder doesn't get seen by the computer, but a poorly written driver might let that happen. It's at least plausible enough to make it worth trying to read the card on a couple more computers with different drivers. Maybe lightning will strike. : In many respects, cards are like cassette tapes. If you record over old : tracks with new music, the old tracks no longer exist. If the old : tracks exist, then either you didn't record over them, or you wrote them : back again. I don't care for the cassette analogy, with its implication that new data are always written at the first available location on the media. A card is more like a floppy disk or a flash memory stick, on which any available space can be used. On such a device it's at least possible that preference will be given to locations at which no "deleted" data still exists. Bob |
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Robert Coe wrote:
[] That seems far-fetched. The reason you "safely eject" a device is to make sure that any cached updates have been written back to the media. That's unlikely to be an issue with a card reader, since reading a card doesn't normally affect the data that's on it. An exception would be if the user had moved, rather than copied, images from the reader to the computer. But even then, the effect of the premature eject should be to preserve (on the card) images that would otherwise be deleted. And once the card has been removed, the computer is unlikely to retain any memory of having seen it. So the next time it's inserted into the reader, the putative update would be unlikely to occur. Unlikely as it may be, something similar has happened to me, removing one CF card accidentally without Eject, and inserting another. The second card then appeared to have the contents of the first. A file recovery program worked OK. One possibility that hasn't been mentioned is that the OP inadvertently deleted the folder with the Africa images while the card was still in the camera. I don't think my Canons let you do that (i.e., delete an entire folder without actually formatting the card), but I suppose other cameras may be different in that respect. Bob If everything else has been eliminated, finger error remains.... Cheers, David |
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