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Project to reduce spam here
Regarding spam, I posted earlier that complaining to Google is futile in
trying to shut down spammers, since there is a threshold number of complaints that must be submitted before Google will take such action. I'm proposing that we might start a project here to see if we can raise enough support within this group to submit enough complaints to see an effect (i.e., see the spammers shut down). To that end, I'd like to take a poll here to see how many people would be willing to do this--report spam messages in this newsgroup to Google. Please reply to this thread. My guess is that it would require at least 20 or so complaints about a particular spammer before they (Google) seriously considered taking action. I'm willing to be convinced that this number is actually higher or lower; it's just my seat-of-the-pants guess. So once we agree on what this threshold number might be, my suggestion is that we target the spammers carefully. Instead of going after all of them, pick one--say, the worst current one--and target that particular one. Then we can see if our complaints had any effect. Remember, this will only work if we can muster that minimum number of people willing to complain. I'm ready to do so if enough of us "sign up". So let's hear from y'all. If someone wants to lead this effort, please speak up. I actually don't want to be that leader ... -- Made From Pears: Pretty good chance that the product is at least mostly pears. Made With Pears: Pretty good chance that pears will be detectable in the product. Contains Pears: One pear seed per multiple tons of product. (with apologies to Dorothy L. Sayers) |
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"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message s.com... Regarding spam, I posted earlier that complaining to Google is futile in trying to shut down spammers, since there is a threshold number of complaints that must be submitted before Google will take such action. I'm proposing that we might start a project here to see if we can raise enough support within this group to submit enough complaints to see an effect (i.e., see the spammers shut down). To that end, I'd like to take a poll here to see how many people would be willing to do this--report spam messages in this newsgroup to Google. Please reply to this thread. My guess is that it would require at least 20 or so complaints about a particular spammer before they (Google) seriously considered taking action. I'm willing to be convinced that this number is actually higher or lower; it's just my seat-of-the-pants guess. So once we agree on what this threshold number might be, my suggestion is that we target the spammers carefully. Instead of going after all of them, pick one--say, the worst current one--and target that particular one. Then we can see if our complaints had any effect. Remember, this will only work if we can muster that minimum number of people willing to complain. I'm ready to do so if enough of us "sign up". So let's hear from y'all. If someone wants to lead this effort, please speak up. I actually don't want to be that leader ... well, as I've already indicated, I am one of those who complain without fail each and every time. I treat these as I do dandelions and other noxious weeds - just have to keep after them before they take over the place. A passive stance vis a vis spam, as with weeds, results in just more of the same. So I go after all of them each and every time. By the way...have you noticed that the cat furniture spam has not been hereabouts lately? |
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On 3/8/2009 7:07 PM Peter spake thus:
I am willing to cooperate with such a project (subject to reasonable expenditure of my time). I've become so frustrated after responding rather intensively some months ago and not seeing much effect that I stopped complaining. Perhaps whoever leads the effort should clarify what the rest of us need to do. I do not use a news reader; I just post on Google. That raises an interesting point: if you read newsgroups through Google Groups, do you have access to all the message headers? You really need to send these along with your complaint. -- Made From Pears: Pretty good chance that the product is at least mostly pears. Made With Pears: Pretty good chance that pears will be detectable in the product. Contains Pears: One pear seed per multiple tons of product. (with apologies to Dorothy L. Sayers) |
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On 2009-03-08 21:08:03 -0400, David Nebenzahl said:
Regarding spam, I posted earlier that complaining to Google is futile in trying to shut down spammers, since there is a threshold number of complaints that must be submitted before Google will take such action. I'm proposing that we might start a project here to see if we can raise enough support within this group to submit enough complaints to see an effect (i.e., see the spammers shut down). To that end, I'd like to take a poll here to see how many people would be willing to do this--report spam messages in this newsgroup to Google. Please reply to this thread. My guess is that it would require at least 20 or so complaints about a particular spammer before they (Google) seriously considered taking action. I'm willing to be convinced that this number is actually higher or lower; it's just my seat-of-the-pants guess. So once we agree on what this threshold number might be, my suggestion is that we target the spammers carefully. Instead of going after all of them, pick one--say, the worst current one--and target that particular one. Then we can see if our complaints had any effect. Remember, this will only work if we can muster that minimum number of people willing to complain. I'm ready to do so if enough of us "sign up". So let's hear from y'all. If someone wants to lead this effort, please speak up. I actually don't want to be that leader ... I'm in on it. -- Michael |
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David Nebenzahl wrote:
reporting spam If help is needed, count me in ... Claudio Bonavolta http://www.bonavolta.ch |
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Count me in, too.
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:08:03 -0800, David Nebenzahl wrote: Regarding spam, I posted earlier that complaining to Google is futile in trying to shut down spammers, since there is a threshold number of complaints that must be submitted before Google will take such action. I'm proposing that we might start a project here to see if we can raise enough support within this group to submit enough complaints to see an effect (i.e., see the spammers shut down). To that end, I'd like to take a poll here to see how many people would be willing to do this--report spam messages in this newsgroup to Google. Please reply to this thread. Craig Schroeder craig nospam craigschroeder com |
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Project to reduce spam here
On 3/8/2009 5:08 PM David Nebenzahl spake thus:
I'm proposing that we might start a project here to see if we can raise enough support within this group to submit enough complaints to see an effect (i.e., see the spammers shut down). To that end, I'd like to take a poll here to see how many people would be willing to do this--report spam messages in this newsgroup to Google. Please reply to this thread. So far it looks like we have 8 people, including Richard K. who hasn't responded but who already reports spammers to Google. Does anyone think this is enough to get started, or should we wait for a few more to "sign up"? -- Made From Pears: Pretty good chance that the product is at least mostly pears. Made With Pears: Pretty good chance that pears will be detectable in the product. Contains Pears: One pear seed per multiple tons of product. (with apologies to Dorothy L. Sayers) |
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"Richard Knoppow" wrote in message ... I've been reporting (spam) for some time. Either those reports finally added up or your project has worked. I've not seen any more Chinese dog beds or fake watches advertised for several days. No doubt they'll be back, but at least for the present there is some peace. Now, we need to figure out a way to get people back to film and chemical photography. -- Richard Knoppow I have been getting back to film and chemical photography-- I've been photographing dogs wearing fake watches while sleeping in Chinese dog beds! Unfortunately, it's been difficult lately finding places to get the fake watches and Chinese dog beds.... (Sorry, Richard, it's just my strange sense of humor!) |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:24:36 -0700 (PDT),
Richard Knoppow wrote: Now, we need to figure out a way to get people back to film and chemical photography. -- Richard Knoppow March 17, 2009, from Lloyd Erlick, A friend of mine switched to digital some time ago, and just the other day was remarking that darkroom paper prints looked so much better than digital output, and there was no getting around it. This after years of making giant digital prints in his giant Epson number so and so printer. He even asked me if I'd like to have his printer! For free, that is, just remove it from his place. The inksets were only about eight hundred dollars [C$] ... So maybe film and chemical darkroom work will work their magic all on their own. regards, --le |
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Project to reduce spam here
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:59:31 GMT, "K W Hart"
wrote: I have been getting back to film and chemical photography-- I've been photographing dogs wearing fake watches while sleeping in Chinese dog beds! Unfortunately, it's been difficult lately finding places to get the fake watches and Chinese dog beds.... (Sorry, Richard, it's just my strange sense of humor!) March 17, 2009, from Lloyd Erlick, This could be the solution. Use each spam as a photo or illustration assignment. Mock them to eath. regards, --le |
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