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Suggestions for posing group of 5 kids.
Hi there, I have a friend bring 5 kids from her family round for a few
photos. The kids range from 6 months - 9yrs old. I have a few ideas what to *try* and do myself, but was wondering if you guys had any suggestions. I have a reasonable sized room with wood floor and plain white walls, also an Elinchrom twin softbox lighting setup. Camera will be a 30D with probably 17-40 f4 L or Sigma 24-70 f2.8 ex. Any help/ideas most welcome. -- rda 30D,300D,D30 30mm 1.4 EX 50mm 1.8 17-40 f4 L 24-70 2.8 ex 75-300 4-5.6 |
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Suggestions for posing group of 5 kids.
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:20:36 -0000, "rda" wrote:
Hi there, I have a friend bring 5 kids from her family round for a few photos. The kids range from 6 months - 9yrs old. I have a few ideas what to *try* and do myself, but was wondering if you guys had any suggestions. I have a reasonable sized room with wood floor and plain white walls, also an Elinchrom twin softbox lighting setup. Camera will be a 30D with probably 17-40 f4 L or Sigma 24-70 f2.8 ex. Any help/ideas most welcome. Birth control. |
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Suggestions for posing group of 5 kids.
"barry davidson" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:20:36 -0000, "rda" wrote: Hi there, I have a friend bring 5 kids from her family round for a few photos. The kids range from 6 months - 9yrs old. Any help/ideas most welcome. Birth control. lol, maybe I should have said "5 kids from her "extended" family". -- rda 30D,300D,D30 30mm 1.4 EX 50mm 1.8 17-40 f4 L 24-70 2.8 ex 75-300 4-5.6 |
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Suggestions for posing group of 5 kids.
On Dec 1, 5:20 am, "rda" wrote:
Hi there, I have a friend bring 5 kids from her family round for a few photos. The kids range from 6 months - 9yrs old. I have a few ideas what to *try* and do myself, but was wondering if you guys had any suggestions. I have a reasonable sized room with wood floor and plain white walls, also an Elinchrom twin softbox lighting setup. Camera will be a 30D with probably 17-40 f4 L or Sigma 24-70 f2.8 ex. Any help/ideas most welcome. Remove the lens cap from your brain before you begin shooting. -- YOP... |
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Suggestions for posing group of 5 kids.
"Nervous Nick" wrote in message ... On Dec 1, 5:20 am, "rda" wrote: Hi there, I have a friend bring 5 kids from her family round for a few photos. The kids range from 6 months - 9yrs old. I have a few ideas what to *try* and do myself, but was wondering if you guys had any suggestions. I have a reasonable sized room with wood floor and plain white walls, also an Elinchrom twin softbox lighting setup. Camera will be a 30D with probably 17-40 f4 L or Sigma 24-70 f2.8 ex. Any help/ideas most welcome. Remove the lens cap from your brain before you begin shooting. Yawn, why bother. -- rda |
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Suggestions for posing group of 5 kids.
On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:20:36 -0000, "rda" wrote:
Hi there, I have a friend bring 5 kids from her family round for a few photos. The kids range from 6 months - 9yrs old. I have a few ideas what to *try* and do myself, but was wondering if you guys had any suggestions. I have a reasonable sized room with wood floor and plain white walls, also an Elinchrom twin softbox lighting setup. Camera will be a 30D with probably 17-40 f4 L or Sigma 24-70 f2.8 ex. Any help/ideas most welco 1) have some fun stuff/toys that is cute, not shop-worn (ormake sure it is antique) to catch the younger folks attention 2) consider both high-key and low-key overall look 3) do you want "formal?" then consider objects that help people sit slow 4) do you want "fun"? think about some light fun kids background music to set the mood, and go from "playtime" into "shooting" gradually. (or start formal and let it degenerate - with kids it always will ) 5) Have fun for 15 minutes of shooting, then take a break. Show the crew what the photos look like on your PC and get their feedback. 6) Stay away from food until the end of the shoot, or you will be forever retouching crumbs out of hair, off props, and off cheeks. 7) kids look good in almost any light - use that advantage; but take care of moms complexion and facial features (nose, etc). 8) talk to them about being consistant in clothes, all darker, all lighter, nothing like a t-shirt wiht a b/w logo on it - or the ones that don't fit in will be the focal point of your photo - no matter what you do. |
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Suggestions for posing group of 5 kids.
In article , "rda"
wrote: Hi there, I have a friend bring 5 kids from her family round for a few photos. The kids range from 6 months - 9yrs old. I have a few ideas what to *try* and do myself, but was wondering if you guys had any suggestions. I have a reasonable sized room with wood floor and plain white walls, also an Elinchrom twin softbox lighting setup. Camera will be a 30D with probably 17-40 f4 L or Sigma 24-70 f2.8 ex. Get all the help you can from the older kids - have a roll of duct tape for the babes and toddlers :-) Photograph at one end of a longish room - this should throw the background well out of focus. If outdoors, an overcast day is better unless you want to glue aluminium foil to sheets of cardboard for fill-in |
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Suggestions for posing group of 5 kids.
"rda" wrote:
Hi there, I have a friend bring 5 kids from her family round for a few photos. The kids range from 6 months - 9yrs old. I have a few ideas what to *try* and do myself, but was wondering if you guys had any suggestions. I have a reasonable sized room with wood floor and plain white walls, also an Elinchrom twin softbox lighting setup. Camera will be a 30D with probably 17-40 f4 L or Sigma 24-70 f2.8 ex. Any help/ideas most welcome. Wow, aren't you attracting interesting comments... pills to caps. There are loads of ways to do kids, and most of it depends as much on your mannerisms as theirs. Go to a library or a gallery, or search Internet, or whatever you can think of... and look for examples from professional portrait photographers. Look at the poses, and the kinds of props they use to amuse or distract the kids. Pick out ideas that match _you_ and your setup. I'm into "people pictures", but not posed pictures. Posed pictures are too formal, too stiff, and won't capture the spirit of the kids. What some parents _want_ is a stiff formal picture! Not me. For me, ideally the kids wouldn't know I'm there or be reacting to the camera. But that is very hard to accomplish! My method is to let the monsters loose in a place with enough "stuff" to keep them totally busy. Quite frankly, I've found that _their_ normal play areas are the best for that. Their school room, their living room, a known playground, that sort of thing. The trick for me is setting up lighting for whatever might happen, and using a camera/lense combination that allows working fairly fast. It doesn't take a 10 frames per second burst rate; but AF, for example, is essential. It is often difficult to prevent kids from becoming more interested in the photography than you are. Nothing will be "natural", and every move they make will be intended to attract your attention. If you keep going for a long time some of that effect will fade. But... they have lots of energy and might wear you out and use all of your resources (memory cards, for example) first! Hence, let them get into the "distractions" well before you start using a camera, and pace things to start with to see what happens. Spend some time, and let them burn off some energy and excitement. And try to be a boring, uninteresting part of the woodwork. Of course, the opposite technique can be interesting too, if you are brave. Be exciting, show them the pictures! Then let *them* have the camera... That works particularly well with a group of children that don't know you well enough to relax. It also works if you want pictures of parents that _you_ can't point the camera at... :-) Hand the kids a camera, and they don't have to ask if it's okay, they just poke it in Mom's face and snap. You listed a 70-300mm zoom in your sig, and that might be handy too, though I'd expect the 24-70 will be used more than anything. I very much like the effects of about 120-160mm focal length (35mm equivalent). (Part of that is because I'm old and don't like to move around all that much, do like to use tripods, and like closely cropped head shots.) Whatever, you might well be distinctly different, and those techniques won't help you a bit. Go look for pictures that you'd like to take... and then try to find out what techniques were used to get them. -- Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
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Suggestions for posing group of 5 kids.
In article , rda
wrote: Hi there, I have a friend bring 5 kids from her family round for a few photos. The kids range from 6 months - 9yrs old. I have a few ideas what to *try* and do myself, but was wondering if you guys had any suggestions. I have a reasonable sized room with wood floor and plain white walls, also an Elinchrom twin softbox lighting setup. Camera will be a 30D with probably 17-40 f4 L or Sigma 24-70 f2.8 ex. *ALERT* *PROFESSIONAL SECRETS FOLLOW* I always photographed groups full length. I don't like to see groups chopped off at the waist or anywhere. Think in triangles...so that the heads are arranged like the points in triangles. Pose each person so that if you took them out of the group, they would make a good portrait on their own. For lighting, since you have two lights, might as well use them. Softboxes are good because the falloff isn't so bad. Position one right next to the camera and the other off axis slightly on the same side (no crosslighting)...with the one closest to the camera 1 stop less than the one farther away. Shoot RAW. |
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Suggestions for posing group of 5 kids.
On 2007-12-01 03:20:36 -0800, "rda" said:
Hi there, I have a friend bring 5 kids from her family round for a few photos. The kids range from 6 months - 9yrs old. For once I agree with Strat: full length photography unless you are doing a facial portrait. With five you can do either landscape or portrait orientation. Having them stand on the two sides of a ladder will naturally create a triangle. I like getting the kids involved in a game of some sort, usually with something colorful with a beach ball, or maybe blowing bubbles. At first the kids are usually a little self-conscious around a photographer, but you just keep taking pictures and sooner or later they forget you are there. There is a natural order of children's play. They start slowly at first, with little involvement. Then they get more and more interested. Then interest falls off rapidly. You will probably get your best shots as the children reach their peak of interest. You can also use the ladder to get shots of them from high overhead -- always fun if you can get them tossing a ball. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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