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Olympus OM enthusiasts' digital prayers have been answered ...
On 5/02/2012 4:15 AM, Bruce wrote:
As the most eagerly awaited Micro Four Thirds announcement yet draws closer, 43rumors.com has unretouched images of the new Olympus OM-D model equipped with a battery grip. It is a very good looking camera, drawing on featured of the original Olympus OM 35mm SLRs plus the E Series DSLRs. It is mirrorless but has a 1.4 million dot EVF in the "pentaprism housing". The camera is confusingly named the Olympus E-M5 but the front of the top plate is clearly marked OM-D. It looks like OM-D describes the OM Digital range, and the model number within that range is E-M5. Official announcement is on Wednesday February 8. http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-first-fu...s-of-the-e-m5/ Lets get this right. Oly made a behind the times E3 that nearly put paid to their plans for a DSLR. Then they put out another monster wearing the "E" badge that was so far behind in technology, it had no chance of ever selling in any numbers. Calling it "Pro" and showing it soaking in water didn't do anything for sales either. Digital noise worse than a s3 Fuji didn't seem to bother the few who remained loyal to the brand. I suppose using that methodology, Stuffing an OM looking body full of all those Pro parts that never sold makes perfectly good sense. Imitating the old half frame pen worked (almost) why not falling back of their old flagship? Maybe they might even have a fix for the almost constant back focus errors the OMs used to develop. Now that would be a step forward except for being 20 years too late. Coming out with another obsolete camera just as mirrorless digital reaches and almost exceeds Pro level needs. Yep! Go to it Oly. I just can't wait for the belly laughs from all those loyal Olympus followers blind to the stupidity of this rumour. Not even Olympus could be this stupid, could they? Where do these people get their ideas from? 1980 Popular Science magazines? |
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Olympus OM enthusiasts' digital prayers have been answered ...
On 2012-02-04 19:02:34 +0000, Chloe said:
On 5/02/2012 4:15 AM, Bruce wrote: As the most eagerly awaited Micro Four Thirds announcement yet draws closer, 43rumors.com has unretouched images of the new Olympus OM-D model equipped with a battery grip. It is a very good looking camera, drawing on featured of the original Olympus OM 35mm SLRs plus the E Series DSLRs. It is mirrorless but has a 1.4 million dot EVF in the "pentaprism housing". The camera is confusingly named the Olympus E-M5 but the front of the top plate is clearly marked OM-D. It looks like OM-D describes the OM Digital range, and the model number within that range is E-M5. Official announcement is on Wednesday February 8. http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-first-fu...s-of-the-e-m5/ Lets get this right. Oly made a behind the times E3 that nearly put paid to their plans for a DSLR. Then they put out another monster wearing the "E" badge that was so far behind in technology, it had no chance of ever selling in any numbers. Calling it "Pro" and showing it soaking in water didn't do anything for sales either. Digital noise worse than a s3 Fuji didn't seem to bother the few who remained loyal to the brand. I suppose using that methodology, Stuffing an OM looking body full of all those Pro parts that never sold makes perfectly good sense. Imitating the old half frame pen worked (almost) why not falling back of their old flagship? Maybe they might even have a fix for the almost constant back focus errors the OMs used to develop. Now that would be a step forward except for being 20 years too late. Coming out with another obsolete camera just as mirrorless digital reaches and almost exceeds Pro level needs. Yep! Go to it Oly. I just can't wait for the belly laughs from all those loyal Olympus followers blind to the stupidity of this rumour. Not even Olympus could be this stupid, could they? Where do these people get their ideas from? 1980 Popular Science magazines? The Nikon D800 will have 36 MP, according to rumors. What I find interesting is that the vast majority of Nikon lenses struggle to match the resolving power of existing sensors. Oly knows a few things about lens design that others have forgotten. During an almost global recession, we can expect to see some fishes out of water. |
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Olympus OM enthusiasts' digital prayers have been answered ...
On 5/02/2012 5:49 AM, Bruce wrote:
wrote: I suppose using that methodology, Stuffing an OM looking body full of all those Pro parts that never sold makes perfectly good sense. Imitating the old half frame pen worked (almost) why not falling back of their old flagship? There is a strong positive sentiment towards the OM System, even more than there was towards the PEN. It makes sense to offer people cameras that they want to buy, for whatever reason. The similarity of the OM-D/EM-5's appearance to the very popular OM will encourage a lot of people to buy it. I use a Panasonic G3. It has the same sensor and EVF as the Olympus OM-D/E-M5. It is a very good camera and I am very pleased with it, but if I was buying now, I would choose the OM-D/E-M5. Why? Because I used the OM system for nine years in the 70s and early 80s and really enjoyed using it. So the OM-D/E-M5 is a Panasonic G3 in disguise? I don't care. It is a very convincing disguise. ;-) I guess I should preface this with "without prejudice" but photography is not the only area where people are happy to live in the past. For Me, I'd rather buy tomorrow's technology and participate in the way imagery is changing. There is only one Olympic lens I should never have sold but I gladly parted with with all my Olympus bodies. I believe the immediate future lies in Fujifilm's newest XPro 1 camera. will become the initiator of how professional cameras with small sensors will evolve. Filling antique looking, plastic bodies with rebadged electronics is just wacky engineers playing in their sandpit. |
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Olympus OM enthusiasts' digital prayers have been answered ...
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:53:58 +1000, Chloe wrote:
: On 5/02/2012 5:49 AM, Bruce wrote: : wrote: : I suppose using that methodology, Stuffing an OM looking body full of : all those Pro parts that never sold makes perfectly good sense. : Imitating the old half frame pen worked (almost) why not falling back of : their old flagship? : : : There is a strong positive sentiment towards the OM System, even more : than there was towards the PEN. It makes sense to offer people : cameras that they want to buy, for whatever reason. The similarity of : the OM-D/EM-5's appearance to the very popular OM will encourage a lot : of people to buy it. : : I use a Panasonic G3. It has the same sensor and EVF as the Olympus : OM-D/E-M5. It is a very good camera and I am very pleased with it, : but if I was buying now, I would choose the OM-D/E-M5. Why? Because : I used the OM system for nine years in the 70s and early 80s and : really enjoyed using it. : : So the OM-D/E-M5 is a Panasonic G3 in disguise? I don't care. It is : a very convincing disguise. ;-) : : : : I guess I should preface this with "without prejudice" but photography : is not the only area where people are happy to live in the past. For Me, : I'd rather buy tomorrow's technology and participate in the way imagery : is changing. There is only one Olympic lens I should never have sold but : I gladly parted with with all my Olympus bodies. : : I believe the immediate future lies in Fujifilm's newest XPro 1 camera. : will become the initiator of how professional cameras with small sensors : will evolve. Filling antique looking, plastic bodies with rebadged : electronics is just wacky engineers playing in their sandpit. "Professional cameras with small sensors" sounds like an oxymoron to me. Maybe you're right, but I'm not yet ready to believe it until I see it. Bob |
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Olympus OM enthusiasts' digital prayers have been answered ...
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:09:50 -0500, Robert Coe wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:53:58 +1000, Chloe wrote: : On 5/02/2012 5:49 AM, Bruce wrote: : wrote: : I suppose using that methodology, Stuffing an OM looking body full of : all those Pro parts that never sold makes perfectly good sense. : Imitating the old half frame pen worked (almost) why not falling back of : their old flagship? : : : There is a strong positive sentiment towards the OM System, even more : than there was towards the PEN. It makes sense to offer people : cameras that they want to buy, for whatever reason. The similarity of : the OM-D/EM-5's appearance to the very popular OM will encourage a lot : of people to buy it. : : I use a Panasonic G3. It has the same sensor and EVF as the Olympus : OM-D/E-M5. It is a very good camera and I am very pleased with it, : but if I was buying now, I would choose the OM-D/E-M5. Why? Because : I used the OM system for nine years in the 70s and early 80s and : really enjoyed using it. : : So the OM-D/E-M5 is a Panasonic G3 in disguise? I don't care. It is : a very convincing disguise. ;-) : : : : I guess I should preface this with "without prejudice" but photography : is not the only area where people are happy to live in the past. For Me, : I'd rather buy tomorrow's technology and participate in the way imagery : is changing. There is only one Olympic lens I should never have sold but : I gladly parted with with all my Olympus bodies. : : I believe the immediate future lies in Fujifilm's newest XPro 1 camera. : will become the initiator of how professional cameras with small sensors : will evolve. Filling antique looking, plastic bodies with rebadged : electronics is just wacky engineers playing in their sandpit. "Professional cameras with small sensors" sounds like an oxymoron to me. Maybe you're right, but I'm not yet ready to believe it until I see it. Yeah. Anything below 6-1/4" x 8-1/4" is just a toy for amatuer use. I prefer 8" x 10" for real work. :-) Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Olympus OM enthusiasts' digital prayers have been answered ...
On 5/02/2012 7:08 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:09:50 -0500, Robert wrote: On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:53:58 +1000, wrote: : On 5/02/2012 5:49 AM, Bruce wrote: : wrote: : I suppose using that methodology, Stuffing an OM looking body full of : all those Pro parts that never sold makes perfectly good sense. : Imitating the old half frame pen worked (almost) why not falling back of : their old flagship? : : : There is a strong positive sentiment towards the OM System, even more : than there was towards the PEN. It makes sense to offer people : cameras that they want to buy, for whatever reason. The similarity of : the OM-D/EM-5's appearance to the very popular OM will encourage a lot : of people to buy it. : : I use a Panasonic G3. It has the same sensor and EVF as the Olympus : OM-D/E-M5. It is a very good camera and I am very pleased with it, : but if I was buying now, I would choose the OM-D/E-M5. Why? Because : I used the OM system for nine years in the 70s and early 80s and : really enjoyed using it. : : So the OM-D/E-M5 is a Panasonic G3 in disguise? I don't care. It is : a very convincing disguise. ;-) : : : : I guess I should preface this with "without prejudice" but photography : is not the only area where people are happy to live in the past. For Me, : I'd rather buy tomorrow's technology and participate in the way imagery : is changing. There is only one Olympic lens I should never have sold but : I gladly parted with with all my Olympus bodies. : : I believe the immediate future lies in Fujifilm's newest XPro 1 camera. : will become the initiator of how professional cameras with small sensors : will evolve. Filling antique looking, plastic bodies with rebadged : electronics is just wacky engineers playing in their sandpit. "Professional cameras with small sensors" sounds like an oxymoron to me. Maybe you're right, but I'm not yet ready to believe it until I see it. Yeah. Anything below 6-1/4" x 8-1/4" is just a toy for amatuer use. I prefer 8" x 10" for real work. :-) Regards, Eric Stevens What's the pixel density on that one Eric? I'd think anything over 800 pixels wouldn't satisfy the pixel peepers on site! LOL. |
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Olympus OM enthusiasts' digital prayers have been answered ...
On 6/02/2012 4:50 AM, Bruce wrote:
wrote: On 5/02/2012 5:49 AM, Bruce wrote: wrote: I suppose using that methodology, Stuffing an OM looking body full of all those Pro parts that never sold makes perfectly good sense. Imitating the old half frame pen worked (almost) why not falling back of their old flagship? There is a strong positive sentiment towards the OM System, even more than there was towards the PEN. It makes sense to offer people cameras that they want to buy, for whatever reason. The similarity of the OM-D/EM-5's appearance to the very popular OM will encourage a lot of people to buy it. I use a Panasonic G3. It has the same sensor and EVF as the Olympus OM-D/E-M5. It is a very good camera and I am very pleased with it, but if I was buying now, I would choose the OM-D/E-M5. Why? Because I used the OM system for nine years in the 70s and early 80s and really enjoyed using it. So the OM-D/E-M5 is a Panasonic G3 in disguise? I don't care. It is a very convincing disguise. ;-) I guess I should preface this with "without prejudice" Nothing wrong with prejudice. ;-) but photography is not the only area where people are happy to live in the past. For Me, I'd rather buy tomorrow's technology and participate in the way imagery is changing. There is only one Olympic lens I should never have sold but I gladly parted with with all my Olympus bodies. I believe the immediate future lies in Fujifilm's newest XPro 1 camera. will become the initiator of how professional cameras with small sensors will evolve. Filling antique looking, plastic bodies with rebadged electronics is just wacky engineers playing in their sandpit. How ironic that you should criticise 'retro' designs like the Olympus PEN and OM-D then promote - presumably as an alternative - the Fujifilm X-Pro 1. If ever there was a 'retro' design, the X-Pro 1 is it. ;-) Actually I think it is not so Retro as some might think. I still own an almost identical looking Fuji Pro camera. It uses 12 roll film and when new cost close to what they are predicting for the digital iteration. Rangefinder cameras all had to look like this for the rangefinder to work. If you take a look at Fuji's Pro film cameras, even the most recent '7' range you'll see an amazing similarity between them. Fujifilm is is a steadfast independent company of inventive people who refuse to join the mainstream of Photography but manufacture some of the most durable and usable cameras professional photographers use. The only camera Olympus ever made that was remotely usable as a professional tool was the OM but 35mm film always had serious limitation for anyone (make that professionals) who needed to make poster size prints. None of Fujifilm's Pro cameras had this limitation. The re-introduction of Fuji's own lens mount is refreshing too. When Nikon refused to continue selling their bodies to Fuji, they were faced with either making this style of camera too early or dropping out of the professional market place until something gave. It has and I seriously think the days of flapping mirrors in cameras are close to finished. Like always, Olympus has no forethought. No uniqueness and no 'market saving' products. If it were not for their hugely profitable medical products Olympus would have disappeared as a brand years ago. |
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Olympus OM enthusiasts' digital prayers have been answered ...
Robert Coe writes:
"Professional cameras with small sensors" sounds like an oxymoron to me. Maybe you're right, but I'm not yet ready to believe it until I see it. Well, the world eventually accepted 35mm cameras as a professional format. -- David Dyer-Bennet, ; http://dd-b.net/ Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/ Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/ Dragaera: http://dragaera.info |
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Olympus OM enthusiasts' digital prayers have been answered ...
"David Dyer-Bennet" wrote in message ... Robert Coe writes: "Professional cameras with small sensors" sounds like an oxymoron to me. Maybe you're right, but I'm not yet ready to believe it until I see it. Well, the world eventually accepted 35mm cameras as a professional format. -- True that, but improvements in film helped 35mm to become accepted. And top-quality images from 35mm are not as good as top-quality images from medium- or large-format cameras can be. -- Ken Hart |
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Olympus OM enthusiasts' digital prayers have been answered ...
"K W Hart" writes:
"David Dyer-Bennet" wrote in message ... Robert Coe writes: "Professional cameras with small sensors" sounds like an oxymoron to me. Maybe you're right, but I'm not yet ready to believe it until I see it. Well, the world eventually accepted 35mm cameras as a professional format. True that, but improvements in film helped 35mm to become accepted. And top-quality images from 35mm are not as good as top-quality images from medium- or large-format cameras can be. But they were widely accepted for news coverage in the 1940s; it's not recent. You're quite right that film improvements were important in bringing them into fashion and such areas. And of course the film improvements improved the photojournalism, too. Absolutely true that the technical quality of larger formats was (is) better. However, 35mm also had advantages -- you could get much more real, more natural, pictures of people, and better pictures of action. For some kinds of photos, those are so important that the larger formats were pretty much driven out of those fields. They're not much used in photojournalism even as far back as the 1960s, for example. -- David Dyer-Bennet, ; http://dd-b.net/ Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/ Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/ Dragaera: http://dragaera.info |
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