Share beauties of Canadian Rockies

Sept 2- - Oct 4, 2003, I hiked in Canadian Rockies for two weeks.
Now the photo web for my hiking trip is up on-line.
You are cordially invited to visit the new photo gallery. Hope you will
enjoy the beauties of Canadian Rockies.

http://128.111.124.127/ssr/CanadaRockies.htm

Ronald

You have some nice images in there. I might make them smaller, and easier to
see.

I would also recommend putting a some sort of visible watermark on your
images otherwise they might end up in someone else¹s portfolio.

--
PWW (Paul Wayne Wilson)
Over 1,000 Photographs Online at,
http://PhotoStockFile.com


On 10/19/03 11:41 PM, in article , "Shu"
wrote:

Sept 2- - Oct 4, 2003, I hiked in Canadian Rockies for two weeks.
Now the photo web for my hiking trip is up on-line.
You are cordially invited to visit the new photo gallery. Hope you will
enjoy the beauties of Canadian Rockies.

http://128.111.124.127/ssr/CanadaRockies.htm

Ronald

Question - is there any "value" to reduced sized web photos? Certainly a
print couldn't be made of any commercial value, IMHO.

Also, with respect, I find your (PWW) copyright across the heart of the
picture very distracting.

Cheers,

rma

"PWW" wrote in message
...
You have some nice images in there. I might make them smaller, and easier
to
see.

I would also recommend putting a some sort of visible watermark on your
images otherwise they might end up in someone else¹s portfolio.

--
PWW (Paul Wayne Wilson)
Over 1,000 Photographs Online at,
http://PhotoStockFile.com


On 10/19/03 11:41 PM, in article , "Shu"
wrote:

Sept 2- - Oct 4, 2003, I hiked in Canadian Rockies for two weeks.
Now the photo web for my hiking trip is up on-line.
You are cordially invited to visit the new photo gallery. Hope you will
enjoy the beauties of Canadian Rockies.

http://128.111.124.127/ssr/CanadaRockies.htm

Ronald

Just wondering....I just added a photo section to my website. I put a
"no right click" javascript on all the photo pages with a friendly kind
of message that says it you would like a copy to contact me Is that
enough to stop people from stealing my photos? I know about Digimarc,
but I'm not working at present, so $$ are rather tight.

What does everyone else do to protect their work, but also get it out
there for people to see?



ralford wrote:
Question - is there any "value" to reduced sized web photos? Certainly a
print couldn't be made of any commercial value, IMHO.

Also, with respect, I find your (PWW) copyright across the heart of the
picture very distracting.

Cheers,

rma

"PWW" wrote in message
...

You have some nice images in there. I might make them smaller, and easier

to

see.

I would also recommend putting a some sort of visible watermark on your
images otherwise they might end up in someone else¹s portfolio.

--
PWW (Paul Wayne Wilson)
Over 1,000 Photographs Online at,
http://PhotoStockFile.com


On 10/19/03 11:41 PM, in article , "Shu"
wrote:


Sept 2- - Oct 4, 2003, I hiked in Canadian Rockies for two weeks.
Now the photo web for my hiking trip is up on-line.
You are cordially invited to visit the new photo gallery. Hope you will
enjoy the beauties of Canadian Rockies.

http://128.111.124.127/ssr/CanadaRockies.htm

Ronald

From: Carole

I just added a photo section to my website. I put a
"no right click" javascript on all the photo pages with a friendly kind
of message that says it you would like a copy to contact me Is that
enough to stop people from stealing my photos?

I do the same thing, but some browsers (especially Netscape) ignore the
right-click javascript (or at least the script I wrote and even if it works
there are other ways that people can 'take' the image (doing a screen dump or
reading the code to see the path and downloading it from there directly, for
example).

What does everyone else do to protect their work, but also get it out
there for people to see?

Some people are going to steal it pretty much no matter what you do (if your
work is good enough). Options are limited since few courts seem to care about
this and it's a hassle finding the right court to even sue in (been thru this a
couple of times already ... do you sue where you live, where they live, or
where the server with the images is located?), or even a lawyer to take up your
case. You can find the server owner using whois and usually a tart note to
them will result in the files being removed quickly since they have more to
lose and nothing to gain but headaches by keeping these disputed files posted,
but if the perp owns his own server (or if it's in Bolivia or Russia or
Timbuktu) and ignores you it's tough to make headway.

Once a fishing lodge used some of our shots in a catalog and I sent them a
bill, which they actually paid after I explained the ramifications of the new
laws, but if the thief is some numb nuts kid with a vanity site you'll be lucky
just to get the files removed.

Bill

dy (Bill Hilton) wrote in message ...
From: Carole

I just added a photo section to my website. I put a
"no right click" javascript on all the photo pages with a friendly kind
of message that says it you would like a copy to contact me Is that
enough to stop people from stealing my photos?

I do the same thing, but some browsers (especially Netscape) ignore the
right-click javascript (or at least the script I wrote and even if it works
there are other ways that people can 'take' the image (doing a screen dump or
reading the code to see the path and downloading it from there directly, for
example).


Depends on scrip. The one I use works for Netscape 6.2 and 4.0. It did
not work for 3.0 and earlier. Also if I remeber correctly it worked
back to IE 4.0

Most of the older verson were on an old P90 running W95 that I trashed
about six months ago.


What does everyone else do to protect their work, but also get it out
there for people to see?

Some people are going to steal it pretty much no matter what you do (if your
work is good enough). Options are limited since few courts seem to care about
this and it's a hassle finding the right court to even sue in (been thru this a
couple of times already ... do you sue where you live, where they live, or
where the server with the images is located?), or even a lawyer to take up your
case. You can find the server owner using whois and usually a tart note to
them will result in the files being removed quickly since they have more to
lose and nothing to gain but headaches by keeping these disputed files posted,
but if the perp owns his own server (or if it's in Bolivia or Russia or
Timbuktu) and ignores you it's tough to make headway.


That's why you resize to 72 dpi and make small image. So that any 8x10
or larger are pretty useless.


Once a fishing lodge used some of our shots in a catalog and I sent them a
bill, which they actually paid after I explained the ramifications of the new
laws, but if the thief is some numb nuts kid with a vanity site you'll be lucky
just to get the files removed.

Bill


If you put the copyright at the bottom they just crop it ou. If you
put it across the heart if the image you kinf-of destroy the
aesthetics of the image. Many people consider dis-abling the context
menu rude. If you use frames you can locallize it to just the images
and leave it active for the rest of the site. But, the use of frame
while making nagivation much easier has it's own list of issues.

All part of the fun of a designing photography site. Trade-off at
every turn.

The Rockie image are very nice.

Jim

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* Check-out my web site at: http://SwensonStudio.com *
* landscape and travel photographs, featuring sunsets *
*----------------------------------------------------------------*


Jim

dy (Bill Hilton) wrote in message ...
From: Carole

I just added a photo section to my website. I put a
"no right click" javascript on all the photo pages with a friendly kind
of message that says it you would like a copy to contact me Is that
enough to stop people from stealing my photos?

I do the same thing, but some browsers (especially Netscape) ignore the
right-click javascript (or at least the script I wrote and even if it works
there are other ways that people can 'take' the image (doing a screen dump or
reading the code to see the path and downloading it from there directly, for
example).


Depends on scrip. The one I use works for Netscape 6.2 and 4.0. It did
not work for 3.0 and earlier. Also if I remeber correctly it worked
back to IE 4.0

Most of the older verson were on an old P90 running W95 that I trashed
about six months ago.


What does everyone else do to protect their work, but also get it out
there for people to see?

Some people are going to steal it pretty much no matter what you do (if your
work is good enough). Options are limited since few courts seem to care about
this and it's a hassle finding the right court to even sue in (been thru this a
couple of times already ... do you sue where you live, where they live, or
where the server with the images is located?), or even a lawyer to take up your
case. You can find the server owner using whois and usually a tart note to
them will result in the files being removed quickly since they have more to
lose and nothing to gain but headaches by keeping these disputed files posted,
but if the perp owns his own server (or if it's in Bolivia or Russia or
Timbuktu) and ignores you it's tough to make headway.


That's why you resize to 72 dpi and make small image. So that any 8x10
or larger are pretty useless.


Once a fishing lodge used some of our shots in a catalog and I sent them a
bill, which they actually paid after I explained the ramifications of the new
laws, but if the thief is some numb nuts kid with a vanity site you'll be lucky
just to get the files removed.

Bill


If you put the copyright at the bottom they just crop it ou. If you
put it across the heart if the image you kinf-of destroy the
aesthetics of the image. Many people consider dis-abling the context
menu rude. If you use frames you can locallize it to just the images
and leave it active for the rest of the site. But, the use of frame
while making nagivation much easier has it's own list of issues.

All part of the fun of a designing photography site. Trade-off at
every turn.

The Rockie image are very nice.

Jim

*----------------------------------------------------------------*
* Check-out my web site at: http://SwensonStudio.com *
* landscape and travel photographs, featuring sunsets *
*----------------------------------------------------------------*


Jim

All those special ways to stop copying just doesn't work very well. It seems
that there are ways around all of them. That is why I recommend putting a
visible watermark on each and every image I put on the web. And use a lower
resolution image of not to big of size. I just figure that I have to get my
images out in front of clients and and accept a few thefts from my lower
rez, smaller watermarked images might make them think twice about taking my
images without my permission. I will still go after every single copyright
infringement that I can.
--
PWW (Paul Wayne Wilson)
Over 1,000 Photographs Online at,
http://PhotoStockFile.com



On 10/20/03 2:51 PM, in article ,
"Carole" wrote:

Just wondering....I just added a photo section to my website. I put a
"no right click" javascript on all the photo pages with a friendly kind
of message that says it you would like a copy to contact me Is that
enough to stop people from stealing my photos? I know about Digimarc,
but I'm not working at present, so $$ are rather tight.

What does everyone else do to protect their work, but also get it out
there for people to see?

"PWW" wrote:
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That is why I recommend putting a
visible watermark on each and every image I put on the web. And use a
lower
snip

I think you have a very nice site, and if someone wants to buy the image,
the watermark is not that distracting.

Have fun,
Dave

I'll have to look into watermarking. I've never done it, but I'm sure
there has to be some place on the web where you can learn how to do this?


PWW wrote:
All those special ways to stop copying just doesn't work very well. It seems
that there are ways around all of them. That is why I recommend putting a
visible watermark on each and every image I put on the web. And use a lower
resolution image of not to big of size. I just figure that I have to get my
images out in front of clients and and accept a few thefts from my lower
rez, smaller watermarked images might make them think twice about taking my
images without my permission. I will still go after every single copyright
infringement that I can.