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Dpreview's Nikon D300 forum dead as a door nail
On 27/06/2012 1:48 p.m., RichA wrote:
They better release the D400 soon.... http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1039 Quite seriously, perhaps they won't. If the D600 is around $2k (possible) and capable of high burst speed (ie higher than the D800), then there will probably be only a few determined pro/semi pro shooters in need of both a top-class AF system and high burst rate in DX format, prepared to pay close to $2k for the privilege. I rather hope that a "D400" might be a bombshell, like the D3, D300, and D800/E have been when released. |
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Dpreview's Nikon D300 forum dead as a door nail
Me wrote in :
On 27/06/2012 1:48 p.m., RichA wrote: They better release the D400 soon.... http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1039 Quite seriously, perhaps they won't. If the D600 is around $2k (possible) and capable of high burst speed (ie higher than the D800), then there will probably be only a few determined pro/semi pro shooters in need of both a top-class AF system and high burst rate in DX format, prepared to pay close to $2k for the privilege. I rather hope that a "D400" might be a bombshell, like the D3, D300, and D800/E have been when released. The only way that would happen is with a radically new body or something crazy, like a 40mp DX sensor. Maybe I'm thinking small, but what can they do with a DX camera above and beyond the D300 that would be that radical? |
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Dpreview's Nikon D300 forum dead as a door nail
On 28/06/2012 3:40 p.m., Rich wrote:
Me wrote in : On 27/06/2012 1:48 p.m., RichA wrote: They better release the D400 soon.... http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1039 Quite seriously, perhaps they won't. If the D600 is around $2k (possible) and capable of high burst speed (ie higher than the D800), then there will probably be only a few determined pro/semi pro shooters in need of both a top-class AF system and high burst rate in DX format, prepared to pay close to $2k for the privilege. I rather hope that a "D400" might be a bombshell, like the D3, D300, and D800/E have been when released. The only way that would happen is with a radically new body or something crazy, like a 40mp DX sensor. Maybe I'm thinking small, but what can they do with a DX camera above and beyond the D300 that would be that radical? Interchangeable prism and EVF, with on-sensor CD AF system for EVF/LV modes with the mirror locked up, switching back to the 51 point CDAF system when the prism is fitted. Have you looked through the higher end Sony slt EVFs?. There is still some noticeable lag, but the viewfinder image quality really is extremely good. I could live with that most of the time, but wouldn't want to be stuck with it all the time. (I don't realistically expect that the above will be the specs for the "D400") |
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Dpreview's Nikon D300 forum dead as a door nail
On 28/06/2012 9:33 p.m., Bruce wrote:
Rich wrote: Me wrote in : On 27/06/2012 1:48 p.m., RichA wrote: They better release the D400 soon.... http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1039 Quite seriously, perhaps they won't. If the D600 is around $2k (possible) and capable of high burst speed (ie higher than the D800), then there will probably be only a few determined pro/semi pro shooters in need of both a top-class AF system and high burst rate in DX format, prepared to pay close to $2k for the privilege. I rather hope that a "D400" might be a bombshell, like the D3, D300, and D800/E have been when released. The only way that would happen is with a radically new body or something crazy, like a 40mp DX sensor. Maybe I'm thinking small, but what can they do with a DX camera above and beyond the D300 that would be that radical? The $64,000 question is: Will anyone get excited about a D400 that has only the same Sony 24 MP APS-C sensor as the entry-level D3200? The Nikon D3200 doesn't have a Sony sensor. |
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Dpreview's Nikon D300 forum dead as a door nail
Bruce wrote:
Rich wrote: Me wrote in : On 27/06/2012 1:48 p.m., RichA wrote: They better release the D400 soon.... http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1039 Quite seriously, perhaps they won't. If the D600 is around $2k (possible) and capable of high burst speed (ie higher than the D800), then there will probably be only a few determined pro/semi pro shooters in need of both a top-class AF system and high burst rate in DX format, prepared to pay close to $2k for the privilege. I rather hope that a "D400" might be a bombshell, like the D3, D300, and D800/E have been when released. The only way that would happen is with a radically new body or something crazy, like a 40mp DX sensor. Maybe I'm thinking small, but what can they do with a DX camera above and beyond the D300 that would be that radical? The $64,000 question is: Will anyone get excited about a D400 that has only the same Sony 24 MP APS-C sensor as the entry-level D3200? Probably the same silly technical pedants that got excited about new camera bodies back in in the old film days when the same sensors were cheaply available for any camera. -- Chris Malcolm |
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Dpreview's Nikon D300 forum dead as a door nail
On 28/06/2012 4:45 p.m., Me wrote:
On 28/06/2012 3:40 p.m., Rich wrote: Me wrote in : On 27/06/2012 1:48 p.m., RichA wrote: They better release the D400 soon.... http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1039 Quite seriously, perhaps they won't. If the D600 is around $2k (possible) and capable of high burst speed (ie higher than the D800), then there will probably be only a few determined pro/semi pro shooters in need of both a top-class AF system and high burst rate in DX format, prepared to pay close to $2k for the privilege. I rather hope that a "D400" might be a bombshell, like the D3, D300, and D800/E have been when released. The only way that would happen is with a radically new body or something crazy, like a 40mp DX sensor. Maybe I'm thinking small, but what can they do with a DX camera above and beyond the D300 that would be that radical? Interchangeable prism and EVF, with on-sensor CD AF system for EVF/LV modes with the mirror locked up, switching back to the 51 point CDAF system when the prism is fitted. Assuming you mean a hybrid viewfinder like the Fuji X100 and X Pro 1 (except that the OFV would be utilising the prism, mirror, and lens) rather than a detachable prism head to be replaceable with an EVF head, I agree. And the AF system should be an enhanced version of the hybrid system of the System 1 cameras, with on sensor PD AF as well as CD AF (enhanced sufficiently that you would only need to use CD AF for accuracy, not as in the Series 1 cameras for low light). Whether that is this year though, I don't know. Apteryx |
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Dpreview's Nikon D300 forum dead as a door nail
Rich wrote:
The only way that would happen is with a radically new body or something crazy, like a 40mp DX sensor. Maybe I'm thinking small, but what can they do with a DX camera above and beyond the D300 that would be that radical? I'd be happy with the D7000 sensor/etc in a D300ish body. Not unlike the D80/D200 and D90/D300 distinction pairing Nikon used to go for. In other words, better resolution, less noise than the D300 sensor, the newer AF engine, but with the D300 body size and ergonomics. And CF cards. They don't need to go for a radical improvement; it's just that Nikon hasn't introduced a camera that fills the same product niche as the D300. - Solomon -- Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Melbourne, FL ^^ (mail/jabber/gtalk) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. |
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Dpreview's Nikon D300 forum dead as a door nail
On 29/06/2012 12:45 a.m., RichA wrote:
On Jun 28, 12:45 am, Me wrote: On 28/06/2012 3:40 p.m., Rich wrote: Me wrote : On 27/06/2012 1:48 p.m., RichA wrote: They better release the D400 soon.... http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1039 Quite seriously, perhaps they won't. If the D600 is around $2k (possible) and capable of high burst speed (ie higher than the D800), then there will probably be only a few determined pro/semi pro shooters in need of both a top-class AF system and high burst rate in DX format, prepared to pay close to $2k for the privilege. I rather hope that a "D400" might be a bombshell, like the D3, D300, and D800/E have been when released. The only way that would happen is with a radically new body or something crazy, like a 40mp DX sensor. Maybe I'm thinking small, but what can they do with a DX camera above and beyond the D300 that would be that radical? Interchangeable prism and EVF, with on-sensor CD AF system for EVF/LV modes with the mirror locked up, switching back to the 51 point CDAF system when the prism is fitted. Have you looked through the higher end Sony slt EVFs?. There is still some noticeable lag, but the viewfinder image quality really is extremely good. I could live with that most of the time, but wouldn't want to be stuck with it all the time. (I don't realistically expect that the above will be the specs for the "D400") Well, that's all interesting and highly unlikely as Nikon for the moment has chosen the (eesh!) V1/J1 system as their mirrorless offering. Creating a mirrored system with a EVF live view would be interesting, but against the whole idea of shrinking size by eliminating the long path taken up by the mirror box. If it were to be a "D300 class" camera, then small size isn't such an advantage. The OMD is an example of something too small with too many fiddly controls for me - I am not impressed with the ergonomics at all, but YMMV. There's nothing inherently wrong with the one system format IMO, but the price is high, the design unappealing (to me), and my local camera store guys tell me that they are not selling very well at all, and make very lukewarm comments about the cameras. Nikon have (IMO) made a mistake. Even if the CX sensor format could be accepted, they did not make a camera which appeals to "serious" photographers (and camera store guys), and the soccer mums or whoever else this system was supposed to be targeted at will all know have some family expert or friend who will not have nice things to say about the system. Unless Nikon introduce an advanced CX format body - and even that's a long shot - I think this system is doomed. |
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Dpreview's Nikon D300 forum dead as a door nail
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:33:56 +0100, Bruce wrote:
: The $64,000 question is: : : Will anyone get excited about a D400 that has only the same Sony 24 MP : APS-C sensor as the entry-level D3200? In the Canon world, I believe the 7D has the same (18MP) sensor as the T2i (550D). I guess the 7D had it first, so the situations may not be precisely comparable. Bob |
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Dpreview's Nikon D300 forum dead as a door nail
"Robert Coe" wrote in message ... In the Canon world, I believe the 7D has the same (18MP) sensor as the T2i (550D). I guess the 7D had it first, so the situations may not be precisely comparable. Yes and it's a bit strange the 550 has been replaced by first the 600D and now the 650D, and the 7D lacks so many of the latters features and still sells for twice as much. Although I doubt they sell many these days, presumably so few they don't think an upgrade is even worth the effort. Trevor. |
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