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On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:41:36 -0400, rwalker
wrote: Has Usenet completely died? Only 7 posts here today and they were all spam. For the last three or four days, every Usenet group seems to be like this. Maybe I've kill filed everyone. Nothing special, just the holiday morning dog walk on the James River. http://edwardgruf.com/2010-10-11_james_am/index.html |
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:43:39 -0400, me wrote:
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:41:36 -0400, rwalker wrote: Has Usenet completely died? Only 7 posts here today and they were all spam. For the last three or four days, every Usenet group seems to be like this. Maybe I've kill filed everyone. Nothing special, just the holiday morning dog walk on the James River. http://edwardgruf.com/2010-10-11_james_am/index.html Those are some nice shots. I like the one of the ultralight plane. |
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?Not much here these days to engage one actually interested in dslr
photography ... trolls, egoists, dumbasses ... "rwalker" wrote in message ... Has Usenet completely died? Only 7 posts here today and they were all spam. For the last three or four days, every Usenet group seems to be like this. Maybe I've kill filed everyone. |
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:02:54 -0400, "Charles"
wrote: ?Not much here these days to engage one actually interested in dslr photography ... trolls, egoists, dumbasses ... "rwalker" wrote in message .. . Has Usenet completely died? Only 7 posts here today and they were all spam. For the last three or four days, every Usenet group seems to be like this. Maybe I've kill filed everyone. There are a lot of those things, it is sadly true. |
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:24:23 +0100, "michael adams"
wrote: "Michael" wrote in message news:2010101020443874364-adunc79617@mypacksnet... Basically saying, Usenet is dead, it's time is over, and everything it does can now be done better elsewhere on the internet. -- Michael Better ? In terms of usability, IME most web forums are about on a par with Google Groups and chocolate teapots. The point about Usenet is that all newsreaders follow similar conventions about displaying threads and messages, and in respect to quoting etc. Once the user has mastered those for any particular Newsreader there's nothing more to learn. With web forums they all seem to follow different conventions. And a majority of users on many forums seem totally unable to quote, but simply make comments which are totally devoid of context. With Usenet it's possible to scan 20 different newsgroups covering loads of different areas in the space of a couple of minutes, and decide whether or not there are any threads which seem worth reading. I doubt that would be possible with web forums. For Usenet all that's needed is plain text - posters can link to URL's and pictures if they choose. It's not a case of "doing it better". In this case at least, no other features are actually necessary. michael adams ... Does this mean I have to get a color monitor and one of those Googley -- Explorer, browser things? Nothing but a bunch of Yahoo's out there anyway. If I wanted my Face in a Book I'd get one printed! Next thing will be having to stop using Kodachrome in my Contax! What's the photo world coming to? |
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On 10/12/10 PDT 6:47 AM, Pete Romfh wrote:
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:24:23 +0100, "michael adams" For Usenet all that's needed is plain text - posters can link to URL's and pictures if they choose. It's not a case of "doing it better". In this case at least, no other features are actually necessary. Does this mean I have to get a color monitor and one of those Googley -- Explorer, browser things? Nothing but a bunch of Yahoo's out there anyway. If I wanted my Face in a Book I'd get one printed! Next thing will be having to stop using Kodachrome in my Contax! What's the photo world coming to? Who knows?! But if you go on Safari, you don't have to mess with a Googley Explorer... -- john mcwilliams "Um, his vocabulary, like, uh, really, ah....... sucked." |
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"michael adams" wrote in message
... Basically saying, Usenet is dead, it's time is over, and everything it does can now be done better elsewhere on the internet. -- Michael Better ? In terms of usability, IME most web forums are about on a par with Google Groups and chocolate teapots. The point about Usenet is that all newsreaders follow similar conventions about displaying threads and messages, and in respect to quoting etc. Once the user has mastered those for any particular Newsreader there's nothing more to learn. With web forums they all seem to follow different conventions. And a majority of users on many forums seem totally unable to quote, but simply make comments which are totally devoid of context. With Usenet it's possible to scan 20 different newsgroups covering loads of different areas in the space of a couple of minutes, and decide whether or not there are any threads which seem worth reading. I doubt that would be possible with web forums. For Usenet all that's needed is plain text - posters can link to URL's and pictures if they choose. It's not a case of "doing it better". In this case at least, no other features are actually necessary. michael adams ... Agreed. Otherwise we wouldn't keep coming back here. :-) |
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"Bruce" wrote in message
... I think anyone who fails to be enthused by the application of newly developed technologies to photography is just jaded, or not genuinely interested in the subject. Yup, got my personality profile down to a tee. Errr... You explained your personality in detail in your previous post. I merely commented on it. Touché |
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Michael wrote:
On 2010-10-10 18:41:36 -0400, rwalker said: The current issue of MacLife has a review of the newest version of UNISON, which is a usenet newsreader for the mac. While it gives the software a good review, it asks, and not too subtly, "what's the point?" Basically saying, Usenet is dead, it's time is over, and everything it does can now be done better elsewhere on the internet. "The point is: For people who understand what (News/)Usenet is, there *is* no alternative. *That* will keep it alive." (Frank Slootweg) Show me one other medium where - I can have dynamic scoring of my own choosing, - I can use arbitrary rules to score, - I can use my own editor, - everything can be run remotely over a slow (e.g. cellular phone with bad reception) ssh tunnel without usability problems, - one can read and write completely offline (e.g. in a plane, outside cellular phone range, .... without resorting to sat phones) with only very modest preparation done *once*, - the necessary storage space and transmission space is (uncompressed) less than 4000 bytes per message even for this group with it's gratitudious quoting, - even a light-weight toy computer or a low end computer from 1990 (when a 386 with 20 MHz and a 40 Megabyte harddisk was the height of computer power for the home user) has vastly more than enough power to handle all the necessary computation needs, - a Braille terminal and a keyboard is all you need to participate if you are blind (and no need to handle complex window decorations etc.) Most forums are already challenged to provide proper threading. -Wolfgang |
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:44:11 +0200, Wolfgang Weisselberg
wrote: Most forums are already challenged to provide proper threading. -Wolfgang I'm with you. If I just want to read discussions about issues I'm interested in, I love Usenet. I don't need the bells and whistles, ads and slowness of a web site which tries to emulate Usenet. I also like the slightly controlled anarchy of Usenet. |
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