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Another one bites the dust
So I talked to the person today who I am pretty sure was the last to
operate a commercial wet color darkroom here in the San Francisco East Bay, and sure enough, as I suspected since he just recently moved, his darkroom didn't make the move. (His business was previously called "Clone Art".) So as far as I know, that leaves nobody on this side of the bay who makes "real" color prints. (Dunno about the South Bay or San Francisco, but I don't hold out much hope there either.) |
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Another one bites the dust
David Nebenzahl wrote:
So I talked to the person today who I am pretty sure was the last to operate a commercial wet color darkroom here in the San Francisco East Bay, and sure enough, as I suspected since he just recently moved, his darkroom didn't make the move. (His business was previously called "Clone Art".) So as far as I know, that leaves nobody on this side of the bay who makes "real" color prints. (Dunno about the South Bay or San Francisco, but I don't hold out much hope there either.) Bummer. I've been making the transition back to film with the hopes that everything had hit bottom already. Greg -- http://lodesertprotosites.org "Dethink to survive" - Mclusky |
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:51:36 -0800, David Nebenzahl
wrote: So I talked to the person today who I am pretty sure was the last to operate a commercial wet color darkroom here in the San Francisco East Bay, and sure enough, as I suspected since he just recently moved, his darkroom didn't make the move. (His business was previously called "Clone Art".) So as far as I know, that leaves nobody on this side of the bay who makes "real" color prints. (Dunno about the South Bay or San Francisco, but I don't hold out much hope there either.) Sounds like an opportunity for someone to start a niche business. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Retired Shop Rat: 14,647 days in a GM plant. Now I can do what I enjoy: Large Format Photography Lifetime member; Vast Right Wing Conspiricy Web Site: www.destarr.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - |
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"David Starr" wrote in message
... On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:51:36 -0800, David Nebenzahl wrote: So I talked to the person today who I am pretty sure was the last to [...] Sounds like an opportunity for someone to start a niche business. It would seem so, and there is a place for a conventional color and B&W lab to make its mark, but it unlikely to happen. IMHO the rare clients seek printers who have established a reputation alinged with their own in terms of Handmade Prints. Unfortunately, the later art directors and cliens have all caved in to the fact that clients expect photographers (not labs) to make the prints. The very worst part is that the clients have low expectations for output. It's all about the bottom line. Vision, critical requjisites, critical taste has gone away. So the art winds down to mediocracy. |
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"Scott W" wrote in message
... Darkroom work is really now a hobbyists activity, expecting someone to try and stay in business doing it is asking a bit much. Have you seen what custom B&W printers get for their work if they are good, and have a good reputation? Certainly, almost any bloke with bucks can open a digital do-it-yourself shop or quickie CD lab, but so what? Digital has liberated and elevated wet-darkroom work and film. |
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"Scott W" wrote in message ... The point is that darkroom work is quickly leaving the commercial market and being left as a hobbyist activity. The OP bemoaned the loss of the last place that made "real" color prints. There is not much market for "real" color prints or there would be more places doing them. But if someone feels that the old ways are best they can set up a darkroom and roll their own, this is as it should be, IMO. Well, Scott, this is rec.photo.darkroom. Do you think anyone here gives a damn about the commercial market? |
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On 12/5/2007 10:37 AM Scott W spake thus:
jjs wrote: "Scott W" wrote in message ... Darkroom work is really now a hobbyists activity, expecting someone to try and stay in business doing it is asking a bit much. Have you seen what custom B&W printers get for their work if they are good, and have a good reputation? Certainly, almost any bloke with bucks can open a digital do-it-yourself shop or quickie CD lab, but so what? Digital has liberated and elevated wet-darkroom work and film. The point is that darkroom work is quickly leaving the commercial market and being left as a hobbyist activity. The OP bemoaned the loss of the last place that made "real" color prints. There is not much market for "real" color prints or there would be more places doing them. But if someone feels that the old ways are best they can set up a darkroom and roll their own, this is as it should be, IMO. Yes, I do feel that the old ways are best--but obviously, the market has decided that those ways are no longer viable, so I am *forced* into the bargain that you described. But your blase, somewhat libertarian-sounding advice omits the crucial fact that it takes not only equipment and money to set up such an operation, but also that invaluable component known as experience. I bemoan the loss of this service because I had Tony (the owner of Cloner Artworks, now reincarnated as Berkeley Giclée), previously made some color prints for me from negatives, and they were absolutely gorgeous. Far, far better than anything I could hope to do even if I did spend the money (which I don't have), buy the equipment, and spend a year or two monkeying around with color printing. He provided a valuable service that the "market", in its infinite wisdom, has decided should end up in the ****can. So, in short, your answer sucks. |
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On 2007-12-05 00:59:50 -0500, Scott W said:
David Nebenzahl wrote: So I talked to the person today who I am pretty sure was the last to operate a commercial wet color darkroom here in the San Francisco East Bay, and sure enough, as I suspected since he just recently moved, his darkroom didn't make the move. (His business was previously called "Clone Art".) So as far as I know, that leaves nobody on this side of the bay who makes "real" color prints. (Dunno about the South Bay or San Francisco, but I don't hold out much hope there either.) Darkroom work is really now a hobbyists activity, expecting someone to try and stay in business doing it is asking a bit much. Scott Maybe not. Look at this website: http://www.ilfochrome.com/index.html -- Michael |
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David Nebenzahl wrote:
So I talked to the person today who I am pretty sure was the last to operate a commercial wet color darkroom here in the San Francisco East Bay, and sure enough, as I suspected since he just recently moved, his darkroom didn't make the move. (His business was previously called "Clone Art".) So as far as I know, that leaves nobody on this side of the bay who makes "real" color prints. (Dunno about the South Bay or San Francisco, but I don't hold out much hope there either.) I haven't had any prints made there in some time, but Action Photo Service in Concord appears to still do traditional wet printing. http://www.actionphotoservice.com/ Dana |
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Another one bites the dust
On 12/6/2007 7:57 AM Dana Myers spake thus:
David Nebenzahl wrote: So I talked to the person today who I am pretty sure was the last to operate a commercial wet color darkroom here in the San Francisco East Bay, and sure enough, as I suspected since he just recently moved, his darkroom didn't make the move. (His business was previously called "Clone Art".) So as far as I know, that leaves nobody on this side of the bay who makes "real" color prints. (Dunno about the South Bay or San Francisco, but I don't hold out much hope there either.) I haven't had any prints made there in some time, but Action Photo Service in Concord appears to still do traditional wet printing. http://www.actionphotoservice.com/ So that makes two (in this thread) so far. Maybe someone should compile a list of current extant color printers ... |
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