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On 1/29/2008 10:53 PM Rob Morley spake thus:

In article internetphobic-8157B4.18291329012008
@newsgroups.comcast.net, ____ says...

In article m,
David Nebenzahl wrote:

Really has nothing to do with the whole PC-vs-Mac thing (like those
*stupid* Apple commercials). We have one of each, and they both catch
about the same junk messages ("mail" on the iMac, Thunderbird on the
PC). The accounts are all through Yahoo! small business, by the way, so
there's no real problem with spam causing excess server load, as someone
mentioned upthread.

So our email clients do filter the junk pretty effectively, but it
doesn't make a hell of a lot of difference: because the filters aren't
100% effective, that means you *still* have to look through the junk
folder every day to make sure that something you want didn't end up in
there (and then delete all that crap). And it doesn't have anything at
all to do with the victim-as-spammer scheme I mentioned, whereby other
spam victims get ****ed off at you.

Oh I don't know, it seems like our work PC's are a lot more prone to
auto opening exe. files and any other contrived contraptions.

Your network/system administrator isn't doing his job properly.

He should get down on his knees hand thank [insert name of deity here]
that he doesn't work in a place that uses GoldMine for everything!

In article m, David
Nebenzahl
kens says...

He should get down on his knees hand thank [insert name of deity here]
that he doesn't work in a place that uses GoldMine for everything!

But Goldmine has wizards - why would you need a specialist
administrator? ;^

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:47:37 GMT, Jean-David Beyer
wrote:

I used to say that day was about 5 years off. But in the three years or so
that have passed, I think it is now about 2 years off.

--
.~. Jean-David Beyer

I was thinking of posting every AOL email address I could to the alt.*
groups on the USENET just to see how they would like having their
address shared without consent !

JD

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:29:13 -0500, ____
wrote:

Oh I don't know, it seems like our work PC's are a lot more prone to
auto opening exe. files and any other contrived contraptions.

Sounds like an operator error. But then this is why Microsoft came up
with Vista. 10 layers of security to protect users from themselves.

JD

"Rob Morley" wrote in message
t...
Your network/system administrator isn't doing his job properly.

I had to smile when I read that. I work for a university where every
student and faculty member has a laptop computer, Mac or PC. Students in
particular will just load up on malware and wait until their computer just
won't work before they come in for help. BTW, Norton's suite helps a lot,
as does the email server (I don't know what they use there.)

But the best story - last month a young lady came in with a really messed up
laptop (PC). "I am a very careful person!" she exclaimed, "I have all the
anti-virus software a person can get." She had so many anti-something
programs that almost nothing worked.

FWIW, this year Apple bid on both the PC and Mac platforms. We might become
a single-vendor site.

"John" wrote in message
...

Sounds like an operator error. But then this is why Microsoft came up
with Vista. 10 layers of security to protect users from themselves.

Is Micro$oft finally adopting the fine granularity of protection that was
recommended when they first looked to OpenVMS as a security model?

On 1/30/2008 2:51 AM John spake thus:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:47:37 GMT, Jean-David Beyer
wrote:

I used to say that day was about 5 years off. But in the three years or so
that have passed, I think it is now about 2 years off.

I was thinking of posting every AOL email address I could to the alt.*
groups on the USENET just to see how they would like having their
address shared without consent !

On "the USENET"? Is that anything like "the internets"? (You know, all
them tubes and such.)

In article ,
John wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:29:13 -0500, ____
wrote:

Oh I don't know, it seems like our work PC's are a lot more prone to
auto opening exe. files and any other contrived contraptions.

Sounds like an operator error. But then this is why Microsoft came up
with Vista. 10 layers of security to protect users from themselves.

JD

Hard to say what those other users do or don't do wrong. Personally in
my job I only click on file types in email, I know the source of.

I just don't like an OS that automatically upgrades it self without
asking,....fine if that happens at the server level, not so fine when I
am typing something and I am locked into a program and can't save the
changes.

--
Reality is a picture perfected and never looking back.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:36:10 -0600, jjs wrote:

BTW, Norton's suite helps a lot,

YUCK ! The only thing wore than a virus is either Norton or McAfee's
Infernal Security Suites !

JD

On 1/31/2008 2:08 PM John spake thus:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:36:10 -0600, jjs wrote:

BTW, Norton's suite helps a lot,

YUCK ! The only thing wore than a virus is either Norton or McAfee's
Infernal Security Suites !

In a way, those damned things *are* viruses, just not so virulent: just
make your nose run all day long, no open sores or pus.