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Windows "camera" application
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I am using the Windows "camera" application to make videos on my laptop. For some reason the resolution comes out parse. Any solution to this? Or is it just the camera's resolution? It didn't do this when I used the camera application that came with the laptop so I don't think it is the camera. I lost the native camera application when I installed Windows over it. -- Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D. https://www.dalekelly.org/ Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner |
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On May 8, 2020, dale wrote
(in article ): Hi, I am using the Windows "camera" application to make videos on my laptop. For Windows issues other folks here might be able to help, as I donβt do Windows. For some reason the resolution comes out parse. Any solution to this? Or is it just the camera's resolution? It didn't do this when I used the camera application that came with the laptop so I don't think it is the camera. I lost the native camera application when I installed Windows over it. I think I see your problem. ;-) What make is the camera? Usually camera manufacturer native software is available via download from their web site support/downloads page. Check your camera user manual, probably also available online if you canβt find it. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 5/8/2020 10:27 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On May 8, 2020, dale wrote (in article ): Hi, I am using the Windows "camera" application to make videos on my laptop. For Windows issues other folks here might be able to help, as I donβt do Windows. For some reason the resolution comes out parse. Any solution to this? Or is it just the camera's resolution? It didn't do this when I used the camera application that came with the laptop so I don't think it is the camera. I lost the native camera application when I installed Windows over it. I think I see your problem. ;-) What make is the camera? The camera is part of the laptop. The laptop is a Hewlett Packard. Usually camera manufacturer native software is available via download from their web site support/downloads page. Check your camera user manual, probably also available online if you canβt find it. Already went to the site. Installed the drivers. This made the camera and the Windows camera app work. But the native Hewlett Packard camera app didn't apply to my version of Windows. Lost that app when I installed Windows 10 over what came with the laptop. Thanks anyway ! -- Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D. https://www.dalekelly.org/ Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner |
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dale wrote:
Hi, I am using the Windows "camera" application to make videos on my laptop. For some reason the resolution comes out parse. Any solution to this? Or is it just the camera's resolution? It didn't do this when I used the camera application that came with the laptop so I don't think it is the camera. I lost the native camera application when I installed Windows over it. I can give an example here, as a Windows 10 user. With no proprietary software installed, webcams with UVC can be operated by the built-in UVC class USB driver code. The Camera App doesn't do a good job of exposing all camera options. For example, on my particular camera, it only does 960x480 or so. The camera does 1600x1200 or so at 5FPS, given its own choice. The UVC does not go that high. The "tables" in the USB config space, say *exactly* what the camera can do, but... the Camera App won't use them. The Camera App can also give a different table of resolution choices, after *each* reboot! Pure crapola, from a computer-as-a-machine point of view. It should not be doing this. If I load the Logitech driver, the camera will "tip over", and I won't get any video at all. (Now, I have to put several quarters in my swear jar!) And this happened after the Windows 10 release that added FrameServe. At one time, there was a registry option to turn off FrameServe, but I'm sure the hell that the Microsoft developer created, the dude has patted himself on the back for a job well done, and removed that preference. As you can tell, this is not one of my favorite topics, as it raises my blood pressure. If you knew the whole back story, that's part of it (how an external developer told the developer at Microsoft this was a bad idea, and the guy at Microsoft did it anyway, even though he received advice from an expert). And the users are the ones that put up with the bad choices. When I needed to do a teleconference a couple weeks ago, guess which OS I used ? Windows 7. It's not worth the aggravation to boot into 10 and put up with this. I needed the proprietary PTZ control panel for my teleconference call, so I could precisely center myself in the frame when I made the call. So I wouldn't look like a twit :-) With the Logitech PTZ interface, I could zoom and center myself for a talking-head session with my doctor. ******* Just for the record, Dale, there's an issue with this anyway. Webcams tend to work like this. 1600x1200 @ 5FPS 640x480 @ 30FPS To make decent looking video, with smooth non-jerky head movements, you want 30FPS. The USB2 webcam won't give you 30FPS when the max-resolution is selected. Even with an infinite amount of illumination, the 1600x1200 choice will remain at 5FPS. If the light level drops, the camera may choose to run at 5FPS to compensate for the lack of illumination. You cannot correct the 5FPS value by using brighter lightbulbs for your room. On the back of the webcam box, it will say: 1600x1200 resolution 30FPS frame rate but they are not honest about the fact that *both* of those values cannot be achieved at the same time. You can achieve one, but not the other, at the same time. With a more capable interface technology, you might get a different table of values. If the laptop had a USB3 interface, you could try using a USB3 Brio camera from Logitech. And those would be all sold out, about now. Now that some shipping is going on, maybe we'll see some of these come back in stock. The Brio would be the easiest-to-find USB3 webcam. I've not seen a review of its usage under Windows 10! I would need more info, before purchase! Digital cameras can have video options. My $150 camera shoots video. Shoots it at full frame rate. Has a higher resolution than my $100 webcam. The only problem with it, is the microphone isn't very good, and there's no room for a separate microphone to be connected to the camera. If the camera turns up the audio AGC, it picks up digital noise interference on audio. A shame really. As otherwise, for $150, it does a fantastic job. That camera makes the webcam companies look like idiots. Paul |
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On 5/8/2020 3:12 PM, Paul wrote:
dale wrote: Hi, I am using the Windows "camera" application to make videos on my laptop. For some reason the resolution comes out parse. Any solution to this? Or is it just the camera's resolution? It didn't do this when I used the camera application that came with the laptop so I don't think it is the camera. I lost the native camera application when I installed Windows over it. I can give an example here, as a Windows 10 user. With no proprietary software installed, webcams with UVC can be operated by the built-in UVC class USB driver code. The Camera App doesn't do a good job of exposing all camera options. For example, on my particular camera, it only does 960x480 or so. The camera does 1600x1200 or so at 5FPS, given its own choice. The UVC does not go that high. The "tables" in the USB config space, say *exactly* what the camera can do, but... the Camera App won't use them. The Camera App can also give a different table of resolution choices, after *each* reboot! Pure crapola, from a computer-as-a-machine point of view. It should not be doing this. If I load the Logitech driver, the camera will "tip over", and I won't get any video at all. (Now, I have to put several quarters in my swear jar!) And this happened after the Windows 10 release that added FrameServe. At one time, there was a registry option to turn off FrameServe, but I'm sure the hell that the Microsoft developer created, the dude has patted himself on the back for a job well done, and removed that preference. As you can tell, this is not one of my favorite topics, as it raises my blood pressure. If you knew the whole back story, that's part of it (how an external developer told the developer at Microsoft this was a bad idea, and the guy at Microsoft did it anyway, even though he received advice from an expert). And the users are the ones that put up with the bad choices. When I needed to do a teleconference a couple weeks ago, guess which OS I used ? Windows 7. It's not worth the aggravation to boot into 10 and put up with this. I needed the proprietary PTZ control panel for my teleconference call, so I could precisely center myself in the frame when I made the call. So I wouldn't look like a twit :-) With the Logitech PTZ interface, I could zoom and center myself for a talking-head session with my doctor. ******* Just for the record, Dale, there's an issue with this anyway. Webcams tend to work like this. 1600x1200 @Β* 5FPS Β*640x480Β* @ 30FPS To make decent looking video, with smooth non-jerky head movements, you want 30FPS. The USB2 webcam won't give you 30FPS when the max-resolution is selected. Even with an infinite amount of illumination, the 1600x1200 choice will remain at 5FPS. If the light level drops, the camera may choose to run at 5FPS to compensate for the lack of illumination. You cannot correct the 5FPS value by using brighter lightbulbs for your room. On the back of the webcam box, it will say: Β*Β* 1600x1200 resolution Β*Β* 30FPS frame rate but they are not honest about the fact that *both* of those values cannot be achieved at the same time. You can achieve one, but not the other, at the same time. With a more capable interface technology, you might get a different table of values. If the laptop had a USB3 interface, you could try using a USB3 Brio camera from Logitech. And those would be all sold out, about now. Now that some shipping is going on, maybe we'll see some of these come back in stock. The Brio would be the easiest-to-find USB3 webcam. I've not seen a review of its usage under Windows 10! I would need more info, before purchase! Digital cameras can have video options. My $150 camera shoots video. Shoots it at full frame rate. Has a higher resolution than my $100 webcam. The only problem with it, is the microphone isn't very good, and there's no room for a separate microphone to be connected to the camera. If the camera turns up the audio AGC, it picks up digital noise interference on audio. A shame really. As otherwise, for $150, it does a fantastic job. That camera makes the webcam companies look like idiots. Β*Β* Paul Thanks Paul. I might look into an external one. -- Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D. https://www.dalekelly.org/ Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner |
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On 08/05/2020 15:01, dale wrote:
Hi, I am using the Windows "camera" application to make videos on my laptop. You need to be specific here.Β* are you creating videos from a camera or are you creating videos from your screen?Β* People make videos from the screen when they are creating tutorials of something where a camera - external or otherwise is not necessary.Β* For tutorials, you only need an app that can record the screen live and the software such as Camtasia does that but there are many free apps as well.Β* I use Camtasia or Corel's Screen Cam that can record the screen. Cameras are only necessary if you want people to see your face; Some people likes to show their full face because they think they are very handsome.Β* to me what matters is the ability to speak and explain clearly bearing in mind that there are people all over the world who may or may not speak English well.Β* I am talking about the English speaking people but this applies to anybody with whatever language they speak and write. For some reason the resolution comes out parse. Have you tried to search for the Windows 10 drivers for your system?Β* HP is the first place to go but sometimes some 3rd party people might also sell you updated drivers though this is the last thing anybody should be thinking of.Β* I won't buy drivers; NEVER!!! -- With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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On 5/8/2020 4:01 PM, π Good Guy π wrote:
On 08/05/2020 15:01, dale wrote: Hi, I am using the Windows "camera" application to make videos on my laptop. You need to be specific here.Β* are you creating videos from a camera or are you creating videos from your screen?Β* People make videos from the screen when they are creating tutorials of something where a camera - external or otherwise is not necessary.Β* For tutorials, you only need an app that can record the screen live and the software such as Camtasia does that but there are many free apps as well.Β* I use Camtasia or Corel's Screen Cam that can record the screen. I am creating videos from the laptop's built-in camera/mic Cameras are only necessary if you want people to see your face; Some people likes to show their full face because they think they are very handsome.Β* to me what matters is the ability to speak and explain clearly bearing in mind that there are people all over the world who may or may not speak English well.Β* I am talking about the English speaking people but this applies to anybody with whatever language they speak and write. I'm doing face videos For some reason the resolution comes out parse. Have you tried to search for the Windows 10 drivers for your system?Β* HP is the first place to go but sometimes some 3rd party people might also sell you updated drivers though this is the last thing anybody should be thinking of.Β* I won't buy drivers; NEVER!!! When I got the laptop it had drivers and capture software. That capture app worked fine. After a series of Windows' updates it led to a overall crawl of everything and I decided on a fresh install of Windows. Lost the native capture app. Windows, at that point had no camera app. Went to the Hewlett Packard site, found the drivers for the camera and mic, and installed. Windows then, somehow, had a "camera" app. Hewlett Packard did have capture software but not for my version of Windows. As far as I found ... tried several times ... -- Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D. https://www.dalekelly.org/ Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner |
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On 5/8/2020 4:01 PM, π Good Guy π wrote:
to me what matters is the ability to speak and explain clearly bearing in mind that there are people all over the world who may or may not speak English well.Β* I am talking about the English speaking people but this applies to anybody with whatever language they speak and write. would be nice to have a "voice translator" in the codec? or something like that -- Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D. https://www.dalekelly.org/ Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner |
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On 08/05/2020 22:34, dale wrote:
On 5/8/2020 4:01 PM, π Good Guy π wrote: On 08/05/2020 15:01, dale wrote: Hi, I am using the Windows "camera" application to make videos on my laptop. You need to be specific here.Β* are you creating videos from a camera or are you creating videos from your screen?Β* People make videos from the screen when they are creating tutorials of something where a camera - external or otherwise is not necessary.Β* For tutorials, you only need an app that can record the screen live and the software such as Camtasia does that but there are many free apps as well.Β* I use Camtasia or Corel's Screen Cam that can record the screen. I am creating videos from the laptop's built-in camera/mic Cameras are only necessary if you want people to see your face; Some people likes to show their full face because they think they are very handsome.Β* to me what matters is the ability to speak and explain clearly bearing in mind that there are people all over the world who may or may not speak English well.Β* I am talking about the English speaking people but this applies to anybody with whatever language they speak and write. I'm doing face videos For some reason the resolution comes out parse. Have you tried to search for the Windows 10 drivers for your system?Β* HP is the first place to go but sometimes some 3rd party people might also sell you updated drivers though this is the last thing anybody should be thinking of.Β* I won't buy drivers; NEVER!!! When I got the laptop it had drivers and capture software. That capture app worked fine. After a series of Windows' updates it led to a overall crawl of everything and I decided on a fresh install of Windows. Lost the native capture app. Windows, at that point had no camera app. Went to the Hewlett Packard site, found the drivers for the camera and mic, and installed. Windows then, somehow, had a "camera" app. Hewlett Packard did have capture software but not for my version of Windows. As far as I found ... tried several times ... When you create your videos, did you try watching them on another machine that has all the drivers?Β* I am wondering to begin that your machine might be missing both the display driver as well as driver for your in-built camera.Β* Are you able to watch YouTube videos (any of them created by somebody) on your machine without any distortions? -- With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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On 5/9/2020 10:05 PM, π Good Guy π wrote:
On 08/05/2020 22:34, dale wrote: On 5/8/2020 4:01 PM, π Good Guy π wrote: On 08/05/2020 15:01, dale wrote: Hi, I am using the Windows "camera" application to make videos on my laptop. You need to be specific here.Β* are you creating videos from a camera or are you creating videos from your screen?Β* People make videos from the screen when they are creating tutorials of something where a camera - external or otherwise is not necessary.Β* For tutorials, you only need an app that can record the screen live and the software such as Camtasia does that but there are many free apps as well.Β* I use Camtasia or Corel's Screen Cam that can record the screen. I am creating videos from the laptop's built-in camera/mic Cameras are only necessary if you want people to see your face; Some people likes to show their full face because they think they are very handsome.Β* to me what matters is the ability to speak and explain clearly bearing in mind that there are people all over the world who may or may not speak English well.Β* I am talking about the English speaking people but this applies to anybody with whatever language they speak and write. I'm doing face videos For some reason the resolution comes out parse. Have you tried to search for the Windows 10 drivers for your system? HP is the first place to go but sometimes some 3rd party people might also sell you updated drivers though this is the last thing anybody should be thinking of.Β* I won't buy drivers; NEVER!!! When I got the laptop it had drivers and capture software. That capture app worked fine. After a series of Windows' updates it led to a overall crawl of everything and I decided on a fresh install of Windows. Lost the native capture app. Windows, at that point had no camera app. Went to the Hewlett Packard site, found the drivers for the camera and mic, and installed. Windows then, somehow, had a "camera" app. Hewlett Packard did have capture software but not for my version of Windows. As far as I found ... tried several times ... When you create your videos, did you try watching them on another machine that has all the drivers?Β* I am wondering to begin that your machine might be missing both the display driver as well as driver for your in-built camera.Β* Are you able to watch YouTube videos (any of them created by somebody) on your machine without any distortions? the videos look the same on my other computer without capture devices -- Minister Dale Kelly, Ph.D. https://www.dalekelly.org/ Board Certified Holistic Health Practitioner Board Certified Alternative Medical Practitioner |
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