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Old December 14th 06, 12:13 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Max Freidberg
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Default 5x7 Velvia 100

What's wrong with this?

http://www.badgergraphic.com/store/c..._detail&p=1945



"Drypod" wrote in message
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Hi everyone,

after countless calls and e-mails to dealers in the U.S., the U.K. and
continental Europe it seems clear to me that neither 5x7 nor 13x18
Velvia 100 is available any more in any of these countries. However, I
could identify a source in Japan where 5x7 Velvia can be ordered at
reasonable conditions. For those who are interested, here´s the link:

http://www.unicircuits.com/shop

Hope this helps a great format to survive for some more time!

Best,

Achim




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Old December 14th 06, 01:18 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Michael Benveniste
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Default 5x7 Velvia 100

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:13:01 -0800, "Max Freidberg" wrote:

What's wrong with this?

http://www.badgergraphic.com/store/c..._detail&p=1945


Well, it's a) Velvia 100F, not Velvia 100, and b) it's out of stock.

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Old December 14th 06, 02:48 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Max Freidberg
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Default 5x7 Velvia 100

You'd REALLY discern between original Velvia and Velvia F????????????????



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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:13:01 -0800, "Max Freidberg" wrote:

What's wrong with this?

http://www.badgergraphic.com/store/c..._detail&p=1945


Well, it's a) Velvia 100F, not Velvia 100, and b) it's out of stock.

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Old December 14th 06, 03:32 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.large-format
babelfish
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Default 5x7 Velvia 100

100F renders less subject contrast than 100. Otherwise they're the exact
same emulsion.

john c
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"Max Freidberg"
You'd REALLY discern between original Velvia and Velvia F????????????????



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Old December 14th 06, 04:37 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Gregory Blank
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Default 5x7 Velvia 100

In article jB3gh.5583$yZ4.2011@trnddc05,
"babelfish" wrote:

100F renders less subject contrast than 100. Otherwise they're the exact
same emulsion.

john c
www.technicalphoto.com

"Max Freidberg"
You'd REALLY discern between original Velvia and Velvia F????????????????


The 100 I've used and seen is a lot more blue. Or saturated in its
opposite. 100F has much warmer balance.
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Old December 14th 06, 03:12 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Michael Benveniste
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Default 5x7 Velvia 100

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:48:13 -0800, "Max Freidberg"
wrote:

You'd REALLY discern between original Velvia and Velvia F????????????????


Short answer? Yes. So does Fuji, otherwise they would have
discontinued Velvia 100F when Velvia 100 was introduced to avoid this
very subject. At least in medium format, I found that Velvia 100 closer
to Velvia 50 in both color and contrast than 100F.

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Old December 15th 06, 01:44 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.large-format
babelfish
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"Michael Benveniste"
You'd REALLY discern between original Velvia and Velvia F????????????????


Short answer? Yes. So does Fuji, otherwise they would have
discontinued Velvia 100F when Velvia 100 was introduced to avoid this
very subject. At least in medium format, I found that Velvia 100 closer
to Velvia 50 in both color and contrast than 100F.


That's right. 100F is the odd one in that it has a similar contrast to
Provia. The dye set is the same as 100 however.


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Old December 15th 06, 04:33 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Gregory Blank
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Default 5x7 Velvia 100

In article V5ngh.11202$Q36.6468@trnddc08,
"babelfish" wrote:

"Michael Benveniste"
You'd REALLY discern between original Velvia and Velvia F????????????????


Short answer? Yes. So does Fuji, otherwise they would have
discontinued Velvia 100F when Velvia 100 was introduced to avoid this
very subject. At least in medium format, I found that Velvia 100 closer
to Velvia 50 in both color and contrast than 100F.


That's right. 100F is the odd one in that it has a similar contrast to
Provia. The dye set is the same as 100 however.


No its not.
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Old December 15th 06, 05:50 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Max Freidberg
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Who is this Michael Benveniste anyway? How the heck would anyone (outside
of chemists employed by Fuji or their patent attorneys) know that a"dye set"
in one film is the same as another. What is a "dye set". Is this a term
Benveniste made up? I am getting SO tired of all these self-appointed
experts like Benveniste (with no credentials) who give us "facts" in the
newsgroup.

Michael: Support your position with real, hard FACTS or shut up.


"Gregory Blank" wrote in message
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In article V5ngh.11202$Q36.6468@trnddc08,
"babelfish" wrote:

"Michael Benveniste"
You'd REALLY discern between original Velvia and Velvia
F????????????????

Short answer? Yes. So does Fuji, otherwise they would have
discontinued Velvia 100F when Velvia 100 was introduced to avoid this
very subject. At least in medium format, I found that Velvia 100
closer
to Velvia 50 in both color and contrast than 100F.


That's right. 100F is the odd one in that it has a similar contrast to
Provia. The dye set is the same as 100 however.


No its not.
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Old December 15th 06, 12:20 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.large-format
Michael Benveniste
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Default 5x7 Velvia 100

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:50:55 -0800, "Max Freidberg"
wrote:

Who is this Michael Benveniste anyway? How the heck would anyone (outside
of chemists employed by Fuji or their patent attorneys) know that a"dye set"
in one film is the same as another. What is a "dye set". Is this a term
Benveniste made up? I am getting SO tired of all these self-appointed
experts like Benveniste (with no credentials) who give us "facts" in the
newsgroup.


Well I normally would be glad to back up my assertions with facts,
I'm not the one who mentioned "dye sets." All that I observed, and
all that I'm qualified to observe is
-- Badger Graphic's listing was for 100F.
-- Fuji markets Velvia 100 and 100F as separate products.
-- I've used Velvia 50, 100, and 100F, and find 100 to be more similar
to 50 than 100F.

I don't consider myself an expert on _anything_ photographic.

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