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conversion of film slr to dig slr-go medium format
cksickfûçk wrote in message ... hi all, i append hereunder my thoughts on the above and posted the same to the great nikon company and the reply was as stupid as the japanese can be does anyone have any thought on this or am i crazy? ************************************************** *********************** I think it would be cheaper to just sell the 35mm equipment and look into either a used medium format camera, or a new one like the Mamiya AFD series of cameras. They have removable backs and can work with digital or film. That might be the way of the future anyway with cameras that have removable backs that are made to accept either format. Ric in Wisconsin. |
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Alan Browne wrote:
With "justify" meaning "afford", yes. I know the feeling. ;-) No, just "justify". There are other things in life. Of course. Which is part of the entire "afford" thing. ;-) Anyway: whether you can or cannot justify the expenditure has no bearing on whether or not the less MP larger sensor pictures are of higher quality than the higher MP smaller sensor pictures. |
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conversion of film slr to dig slr
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:39:44 -0400, Alan Browne
in this message from subject as: conversion of film slr to dig slr: wrote/and/or quoted: Alan Browne wrote: In groups such as rpe.35mm this was discussed a lot in the early decade and there was some excitement over a device that looked like a 135 film cassette with a blade going over the exposure area that contained the sensor. Elegant idea that never came to fruition. Ah here it is... http://www.epi-centre.com/reports/imagek.html ahhh thanks Alan et al for the contributions i was asleep when this group came up with bursts of responses --- thanks amigo if this ny company takes and is still taking 20 years to do something about the conversion, then the technicality is "enormous" i think it is a case of "planned strategy" of the digital brotherhoods i am still hoping to get my hands on one workable cassete to try out on my nikons it would be a great pity if my armory of nikkor lenses go to waste when the silver halide films are long gone not to mention the developing and printing of it. i am keeping my fingers crossed ;-)) thanks again all the good perople of rec.photo.equiment.medium-format for the quick response. ============================================== caveat fair use notice: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml |
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pluto wrote:
ahhh thanks Alan et al for the contributions i was asleep when this group came up with bursts of responses --- thanks amigo if this ny company takes and is still taking 20 years to do something about the conversion, then the technicality is "enormous" One problem was how to make it selfcontained, not needing leads leading out. The biggest problem however was that there is very little space inside a 35 mm film camera. The sensor, of course, needs to be where the film gate is (and needs to be thin. Very thin.) The rest of the thingy was then crammed into the well that takes the 35 mm film cassette. Also not a big place. The unsormountable problem however was that the distance between the film gate and the place for the film cassette varies, not just with camera make, but even beween models of one manufacturer. So many different 35 mm cameras, so many different electronic film units needed. At first it was a fun idea. But it very quickly progressed from silly, through rather stupid, to extremely boring. |
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conversion of film slr to dig slr
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:10:50 +0200, "Q.G. de Bakker" in this
message from subject as: conversion of film slr to dig slr: wrote/and/or quoted: pluto wrote: ahhh thanks Alan et al for the contributions i was asleep when this group came up with bursts of responses --- thanks amigo if this ny company takes and is still taking 20 years to do something about the conversion, then the technicality is "enormous" One problem was how to make it selfcontained, not needing leads leading out. The biggest problem however was that there is very little space inside a 35 mm film camera. The sensor, of course, needs to be where the film gate is (and needs to be thin. Very thin.) The rest of the thingy was then crammed into the well that takes the 35 mm film cassette. Also not a big place. The unsormountable problem however was that the distance between the film gate and the place for the film cassette varies, not just with camera make, but even beween models of one manufacturer. So many different 35 mm cameras, so many different electronic film units needed. At first it was a fun idea. But it very quickly progressed from silly, through rather stupid, to extremely boring. thanks Q.G. de Bakker for the addendum. indeed the lead goes to limbo? simpleton me, is thinking of the backplate pressing down on the film can be jam packed with electronics to sense the distance, etc to work like digital? i am looking at my first nokia digital phone which was just a mobile phone.The latest nokia (some 4 years after the first) has camera, radio, scan, gprs and SMALLER!! i think the ny camera company needs to get a lead from nokia to fin(nish) the project? ;-) necessity is the mother of all inventions. ============================================== caveat fair use notice: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml |
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pluto wrote:
necessity is the mother of all inventions. If that were so, Nokia (and other) cell phones (to name but one thing) would not have been invented. It would also explain that 'Digital Film' is what is is: something that will never be invented (to name just another thing). ;-) |
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On 2008-08-28, pluto wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:10:50 +0200, "Q.G. de Bakker" [...] At first it was a fun idea. But it very quickly progressed from silly, through rather stupid, to extremely boring. i am looking at my first nokia digital phone which was just a mobile phone.The latest nokia (some 4 years after the first) has camera, radio, scan, gprs and SMALLER!! i think the ny camera company needs to get a lead from nokia to fin(nish) the project? ;-) Well yes, you could take a phone camera innards and fit them into a 135 canister without too much problem. The necessary 4mm lenses might be a little harder to come by. -- savvo orig. invib. man |
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:32:10 +0200, "Q.G. de Bakker" in this
message from subject as: conversion of film slr to dig slr: wrote/and/or quoted: pluto wrote: necessity is the mother of all inventions. thanks Q.G. de Bakker for your inputs ;-) If that were so, Nokia (and other) cell phones (to name but one thing) would not have been invented. yes, isnt is a perforced necessity to have a handy phone instead of running to the public phone booth prior to the 80's ? It would also explain that 'Digital Film' is what is is: something that will never be invented (to name just another thing). ;-) aaaaaaaah LOL why not?? you have given another good key to an invention. why not invent digital films?? that is the rub ============================================== caveat fair use notice: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml |
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:24:07 -0400, savvo
in this message from subject as: conversion of film slr to dig slr: wrote/and/or quoted: On 2008-08-28, pluto wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:10:50 +0200, "Q.G. de Bakker" [...] At first it was a fun idea. But it very quickly progressed from silly, through rather stupid, to extremely boring. i am looking at my first nokia digital phone which was just a mobile phone.The latest nokia (some 4 years after the first) has camera, radio, scan, gprs and SMALLER!! i think the ny camera company needs to get a lead from nokia to fin(nish) the project? ;-) Well yes, you could take a phone camera innards and fit them into a 135 canister without too much problem. The necessary 4mm lenses might be a little harder to come by. heheheh, thanks savvo for the side swap bordering to ridicule?? !! ;-) in my introibo -badly formated though, i profered my delima: plethora of useable nikkor lenses (from 1.2 to 500 reflex let alone the flashguns and filters) and the 6 unburstable nikon bodies. my question was what am i going to do if silver halides are going to the sunsets? i have not bought any dig camera yet though i am salivating at the d50 and higher but the damned thing is the the old film nikkor lenses are mostly not adaptable to the digital ones. ;-(((( that is why i ask if anyone has come up with the idea of adaptation of the silver halide cameras-- there must be billions of them before the digital ones come around . Many hallowed members here have helped to throw some lights to the adaptation problems and there appear to be no solution. i have thrown in the nokia idea and your "ridicule" is taken in jest , ;-) well, being the case as it it. i should not be surprised if nokia advances forward with camera models that could and surely threaten the professional ones. then i suppose i have to pack all the nikons and leicas to the basement and use the nokia digital phone-camera professionally ? thanks savvo for the smile on my face this early morning ;-)) ============================================== caveat fair use notice: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml |
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pluto wrote:
aaaaaaaah LOL why not?? you have given another good key to an invention. why not invent digital films?? that is the rub 'Digital Film' was invented. The rub was having to decide for what camera. |
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