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Tiff vs Jpeg
Can some one please tell me if there is any advantage converting RAW to tiff
or RAW to jpeg. Any quality difference. Regards To all Monty |
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In .uk,
Monty scribed: Can some one please tell me if there is any advantage converting RAW to tiff or RAW to jpeg. Any quality difference. Regards To all Monty None, if all you do is look at your images on a monitor. It's the equivalent of looking at analogue negatives, as RAW files are the digital negative equivalent. Perhaps you might want to read a short 4-page pdf primer on this subject written by Bruce Fraser? http://www.adobe.com/products/photos...rawcapture.pdf hth Kind regards Nigel |
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Thanks for the info Nigel.
Regards Monty "nv" wrote in message .uk... In .uk, Monty scribed: Can some one please tell me if there is any advantage converting RAW to tiff or RAW to jpeg. Any quality difference. Regards To all Monty None, if all you do is look at your images on a monitor. It's the equivalent of looking at analogue negatives, as RAW files are the digital negative equivalent. Perhaps you might want to read a short 4-page pdf primer on this subject written by Bruce Fraser? http://www.adobe.com/products/photos...rawcapture.pdf hth Kind regards Nigel |
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Can some one please tell me if there is any advantage converting RAW to tiff or RAW to jpeg. Any quality difference. Converting RAW to TIFF won't change the quality, but depending on the RAW format (i.e., which camera model) will have a more or less significant change in file size, requiring a much larger TIFF file to hold the same data as a RAW file. Converting to JPEG will lose significant data in the image. The effect that has varies though, because if you don't try to change things like the color balance or brightness and contrast, and if you view the image on a typical monitor, the process of viewing itself discards just about exactly the same data and you won't see much difference between formats. If you edit the image though, the JPEG version doesn't have all of the original data and can't produce the same results that editing a RAW file would. Typical results, for example, would be posterization of areas on the JPEG file that can be correctly adjusted with a RAW file. The JPEG might have fewer than 75 brightness levels per f/stop range, while a RAW file may have up to 2048 levels (for example in the highlights). Adding a little brightness to a RAW format image can retain detail, while doing the same to a JPEG will almost certainly lose detail. -- FloydL. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
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"Monty" wrote in message .uk... Can some one please tell me if there is any advantage converting RAW to tiff or RAW to jpeg. Any quality difference. Regards To all Monty Generally speaking for simply viewing or printing to a reasonable size then there's not much difference, but if you plan to manipulate the images, ie sharpening, then you are best keeping as much information in the image as possible, and minimising artefacts, until you are ready for the completed image. TIFF will store more information than a compressed JPEG, but the disadvantage is memory space needed to store the images. You could compromise by setting the JPEG to minimum compression and seeing if that's good enough for you. |
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Monty wrote:
Can some one please tell me if there is any advantage converting RAW to tiff or RAW to jpeg. Any quality difference. Regards To all Monty If you plan to do any advanced post-processing, I believe that TIFF will allow you to work with transparent sections, while jpeg will not. Jan |
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In article , Monty
wrote: Can some one please tell me if there is any advantage converting RAW to tiff or RAW to jpeg. Any quality difference. Before transmitting an image to the lab to be printed, I save it as a TIFF file. The quality of the prints seems to be much better, especially with large sizes. |
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According to nv :
In .uk, Monty scribed: Can some one please tell me if there is any advantage converting RAW to tiff or RAW to jpeg. Any quality difference. [ ... ] None, if all you do is look at your images on a monitor. It's the equivalent of looking at analogue negatives, as RAW files are the digital negative equivalent. With the exception of what happens if you intend to zoom into fine detail on your monitor. Then a TIFF is far better than a JPEG, and a RAW keeps more range of brightness, allowing you to recover more detail from shadows if you need to do so. Where JPEG is really terrible is on a two color (e.g. B&W) photo or scan of a line drawing with lots of fine detail (such as an exploded parts diagram for some piece of equipment which you intend to attempt to repair. JPEGs of that can lose both fine detail form the drawing itself, and legibility in the tiny text which can accompany the drawing. The typical TIFF has no compression, so it is painfully larger than a JPEG, but compression can work with a TIFF, which makes the pain a lot less. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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If you want to work further on the converted image (in PhotoShop etc.), it
is better to convert initially to TIFF - 16 bit. Only when you have completely finished (including any re-size and sharpening) should you save as 8 bit JPEG to get the file size down. Mike Bernstein "Monty" wrote in message .uk... Can some one please tell me if there is any advantage converting RAW to tiff or RAW to jpeg. Any quality difference. Regards To all Monty |
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Bill wrote: Of course, it should go without saying that the original RAW file should be kept as a "digital negative" in the event you wish to change the viewed file or if you want to print a photo. RAW conversion is still in the dark ages, as well, IMO. You may have opportunities to make better images from them in the future. The shadows are basically trashed by current RAW converters. -- John P Sheehy |
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