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Sony Artisan vs. New 23" Apple Cinema Display
I have been using a Sony GDM-F520 monitor for my Macintosh-based home
digital darkroom and Photoshop skunkworks. Nice image most of the time, but it has occasional bouts where the synch goes funky and the image shakes. After three failed repair attempts, Sony is apparently considering other options for me. They may be preparing to offer me an exchange for a GDM-C520 Artisan monitor, or perhaps a cash settlement. I know that the Artisan gets raves from many graphics pros. I have been using a Spyder/OptiCAL combo with the F520. The Artisan's integrated calibration and profiling system is probably superior. But it is essentially a revision of the F520 hardware, so I am a bit worried about encountering more reliability problems. If I take the cash, I would consider buying the new 23" Apple Cinema Display (brushed aluminum frame). I have worked on ACDs from the previous series (clear plastic frames), and they would probably be adequate for my needs. But I have no experience with the new ones. Has anyone made comparisons between the new and old ACDs, or between the new ACDs and the Artisan? I would characterize myself as an intermediate-level amateur photographer. I know how to use color spaces, profiles, soft proofs, etc. But I will also be using this monitor for my real job (programming), plus websurfing, watching DVDs, etc. Several months ago, I read some press releases about interesting new monitors from NEC-Mitsubishi. They claim to have CRTs with new phosphors that come close to covering the gamut of AdobeRGB. They also described a new wide-gamut flat screen technology, which use LEDs for illumination (this is not the thin-film OLED stuff). But it looks like I will have to choose my next monitor before these products are available. -- Julian Vrieslander |
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Sony Artisan vs. New 23" Apple Cinema Display
"Julian Vrieslander" wrote in message
... I have been using a Sony GDM-F520 monitor for my Macintosh-based home digital darkroom and Photoshop skunkworks. Nice image most of the time, but it has occasional bouts where the synch goes funky and the image shakes. After three failed repair attempts, Sony is apparently considering other options for me. They may be preparing to offer me an exchange for a GDM-C520 Artisan monitor, or perhaps a cash settlement. I know that the Artisan gets raves from many graphics pros. I have been using a Spyder/OptiCAL combo with the F520. The Artisan's integrated calibration and profiling system is probably superior. But it is essentially a revision of the F520 hardware, so I am a bit worried about encountering more reliability problems. If I take the cash, I would consider buying the new 23" Apple Cinema Display (brushed aluminum frame). I have worked on ACDs from the previous series (clear plastic frames), and they would probably be adequate for my needs. But I have no experience with the new ones. Has anyone made comparisons between the new and old ACDs, or between the new ACDs and the Artisan? I would characterize myself as an intermediate-level amateur photographer. I know how to use color spaces, profiles, soft proofs, etc. But I will also be using this monitor for my real job (programming), plus websurfing, watching DVDs, etc. Several months ago, I read some press releases about interesting new monitors from NEC-Mitsubishi. They claim to have CRTs with new phosphors that come close to covering the gamut of AdobeRGB. They also described a new wide-gamut flat screen technology, which use LEDs for illumination (this is not the thin-film OLED stuff). But it looks like I will have to choose my next monitor before these products are available. For many people, the difference in gamut between the new wide gamut Mitsubishis and their stock 2070 isn't enough to warrant the huge difference in price, especially for intermediate level amateurs. The stock 2070 already has a brighter tube and wider gamut than Sony's F520. Rick |
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Sony Artisan vs. New 23" Apple Cinema Display
There is a "rumor going around" that the Apple Cinema Display is actually made by Sony ...
and available from them as the Sony "PREMIERPRO 23 Wide Flat Panel LCD" ... Model SDM-P232W/B See http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...playProductInf ormation-Start;sid=_wu_gvkupsa_o7g1uAG1ibY_mqylQpNq3k8=?Pro ductSKU=SDMP232W%2fB "Julian Vrieslander" wrote in message ... I have been using a Sony GDM-F520 monitor for my Macintosh-based home digital darkroom and Photoshop skunkworks. Nice image most of the time, but it has occasional bouts where the synch goes funky and the image shakes. After three failed repair attempts, Sony is apparently considering other options for me. They may be preparing to offer me an exchange for a GDM-C520 Artisan monitor, or perhaps a cash settlement. I know that the Artisan gets raves from many graphics pros. I have been using a Spyder/OptiCAL combo with the F520. The Artisan's integrated calibration and profiling system is probably superior. But it is essentially a revision of the F520 hardware, so I am a bit worried about encountering more reliability problems. If I take the cash, I would consider buying the new 23" Apple Cinema Display (brushed aluminum frame). I have worked on ACDs from the previous series (clear plastic frames), and they would probably be adequate for my needs. But I have no experience with the new ones. Has anyone made comparisons between the new and old ACDs, or between the new ACDs and the Artisan? I would characterize myself as an intermediate-level amateur photographer. I know how to use color spaces, profiles, soft proofs, etc. But I will also be using this monitor for my real job (programming), plus websurfing, watching DVDs, etc. Several months ago, I read some press releases about interesting new monitors from NEC-Mitsubishi. They claim to have CRTs with new phosphors that come close to covering the gamut of AdobeRGB. They also described a new wide-gamut flat screen technology, which use LEDs for illumination (this is not the thin-film OLED stuff). But it looks like I will have to choose my next monitor before these products are available. -- Julian Vrieslander |
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Sony Artisan vs. New 23" Apple Cinema Display
"RSD99" wrote in message
... There is a "rumor going around" that the Apple Cinema Display is actually made by Sony ... and available from them as the Sony "PREMIERPRO 23 Wide Flat Panel LCD" .... Model SDM-P232W/B See http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...playProductInf ormation-Start;sid=_wu_gvkupsa_o7g1uAG1ibY_mqylQpNq3k8=?Pro ductSKU=SDMP232W% 2fB Let's shorten that URL 'for the rest of us' to: http://makeashorterlink.com/?C4A814809 In his public introduction of the new Cinema display, Steve Jobs said that one distinguishing characteristic of the screen is that Apple has a second round of QC checks before branding. Dunno. |
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Sony Artisan vs. New 23" Apple Cinema Display
Hummmmmmmmm ...
Very interesting. So now we actually have three sources for monitors based on the same "technology" ... Apple Cinema Display Sony Premier Pro 23" Wide Flat Panel LCD http://makeashorterlink.com/?C4A814809 Philips 230W5VS http://www.philipschannel.com/Monitors/Flat-230W5VS.htm I wonder how the "other parts of the system" compare. Things like the drive electronics, driver software, and so forth. Is one of them actually better than the other two for "graphics work?" "jjs" wrote in message ... "RSD99" wrote in message ... There is a "rumor going around" that the Apple Cinema Display is actually made by Sony ... and available from them as the Sony "PREMIERPRO 23 Wide Flat Panel LCD" ... Model SDM-P232W/B See http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...playProductInf ormation-Start;sid=_wu_gvkupsa_o7g1uAG1ibY_mqylQpNq3k8=?Pro ductSKU=SDMP232W% 2fB Let's shorten that URL 'for the rest of us' to: http://makeashorterlink.com/?C4A814809 In his public introduction of the new Cinema display, Steve Jobs said that one distinguishing characteristic of the screen is that Apple has a second round of QC checks before branding. Dunno. |
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Hummmmmmmmm ...
Very interesting. So now we actually have three sources for monitors based on the same "technology" ... Apple Cinema Display Sony Premier Pro 23" Wide Flat Panel LCD http://makeashorterlink.com/?C4A814809 Philips 230W5VS http://www.philipschannel.com/Monitors/Flat-230W5VS.htm I wonder how the "other parts of the system" compare. Things like the drive electronics, driver software, and so forth. Is one of them actually better than the other two for "graphics work?" "jjs" wrote in message ... "RSD99" wrote in message ... There is a "rumor going around" that the Apple Cinema Display is actually made by Sony ... and available from them as the Sony "PREMIERPRO 23 Wide Flat Panel LCD" ... Model SDM-P232W/B See http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...playProductInf ormation-Start;sid=_wu_gvkupsa_o7g1uAG1ibY_mqylQpNq3k8=?Pro ductSKU=SDMP232W% 2fB Let's shorten that URL 'for the rest of us' to: http://makeashorterlink.com/?C4A814809 In his public introduction of the new Cinema display, Steve Jobs said that one distinguishing characteristic of the screen is that Apple has a second round of QC checks before branding. Dunno. |
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Hummmmmmmmm ...
Very interesting. So now we actually have three sources for monitors based on the same "technology" ... Apple Cinema Display Sony Premier Pro 23" Wide Flat Panel LCD http://makeashorterlink.com/?C4A814809 Philips 230W5VS http://www.philipschannel.com/Monitors/Flat-230W5VS.htm I wonder how the "other parts of the system" compare. Things like the drive electronics, driver software, and so forth. Is one of them actually better than the other two for "graphics work?" "jjs" wrote in message ... "RSD99" wrote in message ... There is a "rumor going around" that the Apple Cinema Display is actually made by Sony ... and available from them as the Sony "PREMIERPRO 23 Wide Flat Panel LCD" ... Model SDM-P232W/B See http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...playProductInf ormation-Start;sid=_wu_gvkupsa_o7g1uAG1ibY_mqylQpNq3k8=?Pro ductSKU=SDMP232W% 2fB Let's shorten that URL 'for the rest of us' to: http://makeashorterlink.com/?C4A814809 In his public introduction of the new Cinema display, Steve Jobs said that one distinguishing characteristic of the screen is that Apple has a second round of QC checks before branding. Dunno. |
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Sony Artisan vs. New 23" Apple Cinema Display
"RSD99" wrote in message
... There is a "rumor going around" that the Apple Cinema Display is actually made by Sony ... and available from them as the Sony "PREMIERPRO 23 Wide Flat Panel LCD" .... Model SDM-P232W/B See http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...playProductInf ormation-Start;sid=_wu_gvkupsa_o7g1uAG1ibY_mqylQpNq3k8=?Pro ductSKU=SDMP232W% 2fB Both Sony PremierPro and Apple Cinema use Philips' LCD display on the 23" displays [same core as Philips 230W5VS]. |
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Sony Artisan vs. New 23" Apple Cinema Display
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"RSD99" wrote: There is a "rumor going around" that the Apple Cinema Display is actually made by Sony ... and available from them as the Sony "PREMIERPRO 23 Wide Flat Panel LCD" ... Model SDM-P232W/B See http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...re/en/-/USD/SY _DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=_wu_gvkupsa_o7g1uAG1ibY_mqylQpNq3k8= ?ProductSKU=SDMP232W%2fB The Sony model on that web page has different specs than the newest 23" ACD (from the series with brushed aluminum frames). Perhaps it uses the same screen as the previous 23" ACD (series with clear plastic frame). Sony PremierPro 23: Contrast ratio = 350:1 Luminance = 200 cd/m^2 Response time = 40 ms Apple Cinema Display 23: Contrast ratio = 400:1 Luminance = 270 cd/m^2 Response time = 16 ms -- Julian Vrieslander |
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Sony Artisan vs. New 23" Apple Cinema Display
"Julian Vrieslander" wrote in
message ... In article , "RSD99" wrote: There is a "rumor going around" that the Apple Cinema Display is actually made by Sony ... and available from them as the Sony "PREMIERPRO 23 Wide Flat Panel LCD" .... Model SDM-P232W/B See http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...re/en/-/USD/SY _DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=_wu_gvkupsa_o7g1uAG1ibY_mqylQpNq3k8= ?ProductSKU=SDMP232W%2fB The Sony model on that web page has different specs than the newest 23" ACD (from the series with brushed aluminum frames). Perhaps it uses the same screen as the previous 23" ACD (series with clear plastic frame). Sony PremierPro 23: Contrast ratio = 350:1 Luminance = 200 cd/m^2 Response time = 40 ms Apple Cinema Display 23: Contrast ratio = 400:1 Luminance = 270 cd/m^2 Response time = 16 ms -- Julian Vrieslander Check again. The _new_ Sony PremierPro 23" [SDM-P234] has 500:1 contrast ratio. Now I don't know if the new model still uses Philips screen but I guess they are the same as Sony and Philips collabrate in many new technologies. |
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