Bronica (RIP) and will the others (Mamiya, Rollei, Hasselblad, etc) follow?

Q.G. de Bakker wrote:

SNIP



You can indeed still buy the 503 CW.
And new Zeiss lenses.
The question however is for how much longer.

The huge of available lightly used amateur owned late model ones at
low prices mean only an idiot would buy one NEW. PRO-SHOW if he is
really such a working pro has established that. The warranty isn't
worth 50% of the price, neither is the tax write off. And it would take
even a hard core New York pro a decade to wear a Blad out.

Tooling can't be "converted" from such dissimilar production items as
the V and H Series: it is replaced, at least drill fixtures, dies and
sized cutting tools. The trend has been to go to CNC "soft" tooling,
and I'm sure the new camera was designed paperless and largely without
hard fixturing.

The bottom line is that film is going to be a more and more specialist
thing and more geared to amateurs and fine art workers.

Bret Ludwig wrote:
Q.G. de Bakker wrote:

SNIP



You can indeed still buy the 503 CW.
And new Zeiss lenses.
The question however is for how much longer.

The huge of available lightly used amateur owned late model ones at
low prices mean only an idiot would buy one NEW. PRO-SHOW if he is
really such a working pro has established that. The warranty isn't
worth 50% of the price, neither is the tax write off. And it would take
even a hard core New York pro a decade to wear a Blad out.

Tooling can't be "converted" from such dissimilar production items as
the V and H Series: it is replaced, at least drill fixtures, dies and
sized cutting tools. The trend has been to go to CNC "soft" tooling,
and I'm sure the new camera was designed paperless and largely without
hard fixturing.

The bottom line is that film is going to be a more and more specialist
thing and more geared to amateurs and fine art workers.

WELL again i must be a idiot for buying my NEW CF lens instead of
buying used off of ebay...and the NEW 220 backs i'm buying proves it
more.....what a crock....and film will be for amateures and fine art
workers.....well i guess advertising and the fashion mags will be deep
in it....because right now a majority of them want MF film use, digital
just don't do it for them as of yet........maybe those pros buy used
equipment......not........but then HASSELBLAD does have the digital
back for 10k, maybe soon I can find one used on ebay cheaper........by
then i'll be retired

Duncan wrote:
Until the stocks run out!

Then it's purely digital and I'd buy up broken units to rob peter to fix
Paul!

Duncan


"Q.G. de Bakker" wrote in message
...
PRO SHOW_SS wrte:

Lassi did I read it right or wrong...I read that my CF only fits the
discontiued square body...as far as I am aware,

Lassi is wrong.
All Hasselblad/Zeiss lenses made since the 1950s fit the H-System too,
using the adapter Hasselblad made especially to be able to do so.

you can still buy the
503CW which is what I shoot.....but like I said I may have read you
wrong........

You can indeed still buy the 503 CW.
And new Zeiss lenses.
The question however is for how much longer.



duncan, when that happens, send me your adress ..in case my equipment
breaks and i need parts and can't buy NEW you can fix em for me

Q.G. de Bakker wrote:

PRO SHOW_SS wrte:

Lassi did I read it right or wrong...I read that my CF only fits the
discontiued square body...as far as I am aware,

Lassi is wrong.
All Hasselblad/Zeiss lenses made since the 1950s fit the H-System too,
using the adapter Hasselblad made especially to be able to do so.

With adapters many things are possible. I thought we were discussing native
mounts. The point is that when Hasselblad changed from 6x6 to 645, they
also changed their lens vendor from Zeiss to Fuji.

-- Lassi

Lassi Hippeläinen wrote:

With adapters many things are possible. I thought we were discussing
native
mounts. The point is that when Hasselblad changed from 6x6 to 645, they
also changed their lens vendor from Zeiss to Fuji.

Yes. And they changed mount too.
At the same time, they made sure the 'old' mount lenses also fit. So one
'native' Hasselblad mount will fit another 'native' Hasselblad mount.
Not quite the same as just changing mount.

PRO SHOW_SS wrote:

I don't know what took me so long to realize you're posting from webtv.

HO HO HO

So many 500c's are out there that haven't seen a workshop bench since new
that pros are still using the likelihood of a break down is slim. But by
that time the body would be knackered.

A good clock repairer would have a field day repairing Hassis and making new
parts by hand.

Duncan
wrote in message
ups.com...

Duncan wrote:
Until the stocks run out!

Then it's purely digital and I'd buy up broken units to rob peter to fix
Paul!

Duncan


"Q.G. de Bakker" wrote in message
...
PRO SHOW_SS wrte:

Lassi did I read it right or wrong...I read that my CF only fits
the
discontiued square body...as far as I am aware,

Lassi is wrong.
All Hasselblad/Zeiss lenses made since the 1950s fit the H-System too,
using the adapter Hasselblad made especially to be able to do so.

you can still buy the
503CW which is what I shoot.....but like I said I may have read you
wrong........

You can indeed still buy the 503 CW.
And new Zeiss lenses.
The question however is for how much longer.



duncan, when that happens, send me your adress ..in case my equipment
breaks and i need parts and can't buy NEW you can fix em for me

Duncan wrote:

A good clock repairer would have a field day repairing Hassis and making
new parts by hand.

He wouldn't.
Hasselblad is still repairing these thingies, and original parts are in
ample supply.
And there are very many capable camera technicians who do the same, and
either order parts from The Source, or (the stingy ones - until it comes to
the figure they will put on the bill) slaughter donor cameras for
'refurbished' parts.
With that competition, a clockrepairer would go broke.

yep there is 2 of us here i'm on web tv and
pro_show_ss1 is on yahoo..don't get the two of us confused....