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Old December 30th 05, 09:15 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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I'd appreciate hearing what you folks think of this camera. I have read
many good reviews along with some very critical ones about image quality and
noise. I was considering a DSLR, but the price and features of this camera
have caused me to rethink my plan.

Some suggested that the quality control of this camera's production may be
quite variable. With your help. my brother-in-law bought the Z5, and he is
very happy with it.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Best,

Sandy


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Old December 30th 05, 10:59 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005, at 08:15:09 [GMT GMT] (19:15:09 Friday, 30 December
2005 where I live) "Sandy Bloom, Ph.D." wrote:

I'd appreciate hearing what you folks think of this camera. I have read
many good reviews along with some very critical ones about image quality and
noise. I was considering a DSLR, but the price and features of this camera
have caused me to rethink my plan.


Every review, bar none, that I have read about this camera mentions noise,
noise, noise.

That put me off it, ended with a Canon Powershot A620 for carrying around,
does a great job.

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Old December 30th 05, 04:59 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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I have made over 2000 photos with my FZ30 and I am happy with it. I upgraded
from FZ20. I did a lot of research, printed a few of FZ30 photos and only
then I decided to get one. I think knew very well what to expect. I often do
quite large prints and noise was never an issue. Well, almost. Under very
bad light, the Lumix does indeed produce noise - but I still have to see a
compact camera which does not. When I need to enlarge pictures taken under
low light, that is, maximum 10% of all, I use NeatImage or NoiseNinja and
that does it.

The FZ30 is lightweight but sturdy, has superb handling like a professional
SLR and, above all, the Leica lens is outstanding. Whatever opinion you
read, no one would even try to hint at some problems with lens and picture
quality. I would never buy a superzoom without image stabilizer and the FZ30
has an excellent one.

Yes, there is some noise but I believe not less or more than in all other
compact cameras using small chips. Unless you intend to do extreme
enlargements, noise is really not an issue.

Generally, noise is a very favoured theme of many reviewers. They should
focus more on the lens qualities in different models - this is where gaping
differences exist, not in noise levels.

I believe the RAW capabilities tipped the scale in favour of FZ30. When you
really want a superb picture, shoot RAW and do your postprocessing in the
Photoshop RAW converter. No noise.

Regards,

Pavel
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I'd appreciate hearing what you folks think of this camera. I have read
many good reviews along with some very critical ones about image quality
and
noise. I was considering a DSLR, but the price and features of this
camera
have caused me to rethink my plan.

Some suggested that the quality control of this camera's production may be
quite variable. With your help. my brother-in-law bought the Z5, and he is
very happy with it.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Best,

Sandy




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Old December 30th 05, 06:27 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Sandy Bloom, Ph.D. wrote:
I'd appreciate hearing what you folks think of this camera. I have read
many good reviews along with some very critical ones about image quality and
noise. I was considering a DSLR, but the price and features of this camera
have caused me to rethink my plan.


You'll get better image quality with a DSLR: more dynamic range and much
better low-light performance. But, you give up some things like pre-
exposure histogram and being able to frame using that big LCD.
Some suggested that the quality control of this camera's production may be
quite variable.


Random Usenet posters, or serious reviewers? Do you have any links?

With your help. my brother-in-law bought the Z5, and he is
very happy with it.


The few reports I've seen from owners have been positive. Serious
photographers are not buying this camera, so we're hearing from people
who can tolerate its limitations. It's a trade-off.

Paul Allen
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Old December 30th 05, 07:23 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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"Paul Allen" "paul dot l dot allen at comcast dot net" wrote in message
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Random Usenet posters, or serious reviewers? Do you have any links?

I read them at dpreview.com. What do you think?

Thanks,
Sandy



Sandy Bloom, Ph.D. wrote:
I'd appreciate hearing what you folks think of this camera. I have

read
many good reviews along with some very critical ones about image quality

and
noise. I was considering a DSLR, but the price and features of this

camera
have caused me to rethink my plan.


You'll get better image quality with a DSLR: more dynamic range and much
better low-light performance. But, you give up some things like pre-
exposure histogram and being able to frame using that big LCD.
Some suggested that the quality control of this camera's production may

be
quite variable.


Random Usenet posters, or serious reviewers? Do you have any links?

With your help. my brother-in-law bought the Z5, and he is
very happy with it.


The few reports I've seen from owners have been positive. Serious
photographers are not buying this camera, so we're hearing from people
who can tolerate its limitations. It's a trade-off.

Paul Allen



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Old December 30th 05, 07:25 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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The reviews were by users I believe.
Sandy



"Sandy Bloom, Ph.D." wrote in message
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"Paul Allen" "paul dot l dot allen at comcast dot net" wrote in message
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Random Usenet posters, or serious reviewers? Do you have any links?

I read them at dpreview.com. What do you think?

Thanks,
Sandy



Sandy Bloom, Ph.D. wrote:
I'd appreciate hearing what you folks think of this camera. I have

read
many good reviews along with some very critical ones about image

quality
and
noise. I was considering a DSLR, but the price and features of this

camera
have caused me to rethink my plan.


You'll get better image quality with a DSLR: more dynamic range and much
better low-light performance. But, you give up some things like pre-
exposure histogram and being able to frame using that big LCD.
Some suggested that the quality control of this camera's production

may
be
quite variable.


Random Usenet posters, or serious reviewers? Do you have any links?

With your help. my brother-in-law bought the Z5, and he is
very happy with it.


The few reports I've seen from owners have been positive. Serious
photographers are not buying this camera, so we're hearing from people
who can tolerate its limitations. It's a trade-off.

Paul Allen





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Old December 30th 05, 07:26 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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I love it. I have no issues with the image quality or the noise. Yes, there
is noise, but the amount is not a problem for me. You can see my gallery of
images at:

http://www.sonic.net/keesha

At the bottom of the large images it tells you what camera. If it doesn't
say, then it is from a very old one or from a film scan. Most of the images
are from the Panasonic FZ20 and the FZ30.

R


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Old December 30th 05, 07:30 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Maybe true. But, then who wants to carry all of the lenes around and worry
about dirt and dust getting on the sensor when you change them. Not to
mention all of the wasted time switching lenses because you will never have
the one you need on the camera at the time you want to take a picture.

I went from the Canon 20D to the Panasonic FZ20. It was the best move I ever
made. I hated the 20D not only for the reasons laid out above but because
Canon sucks at support.

I very much enjoy taking pictures with the Panasonic cameras. The Canon on
the other hand I hated, it was too heavy and too much trouble as well. I
never had it with me when I needed to take a picture so I didn't take
pictures. The Panasonics go with me every where.

The Panasonics have great lenses, great zoom level and you can do much
better then Leica.

R

"Paul Allen" "paul dot l dot allen at comcast dot net" wrote in message
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Sandy Bloom, Ph.D. wrote:
I'd appreciate hearing what you folks think of this camera. I have read
many good reviews along with some very critical ones about image quality
and
noise. I was considering a DSLR, but the price and features of this
camera
have caused me to rethink my plan.


You'll get better image quality with a DSLR: more dynamic range and much
better low-light performance. But, you give up some things like pre-
exposure histogram and being able to frame using that big LCD.
Some suggested that the quality control of this camera's production may
be
quite variable.


Random Usenet posters, or serious reviewers? Do you have any links?

With your help. my brother-in-law bought the Z5, and he is
very happy with it.


The few reports I've seen from owners have been positive. Serious
photographers are not buying this camera, so we're hearing from people
who can tolerate its limitations. It's a trade-off.

Paul Allen



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Old December 30th 05, 09:02 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:59:41 +0100, "P" wrote Re
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I have made over 2000 photos with my FZ30 and I am happy with it. I upgraded
from FZ20.


Can you tell us what you prefer about the FZ30 over the FZ20? I would
be interested.
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Old December 31st 05, 12:24 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Vic Dura wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:59:41 +0100, "P" wrote Re
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I have made over 2000 photos with my FZ30 and I am happy with it. I upgraded


from FZ20.


Can you tell us what you prefer about the FZ30 over the FZ20? I would
be interested.


Here's the list of advantages I put together a while back:

It has a RAW mode.
It boots in 1 second versus 5 because the lens doesn't extend.
It has a manual zoom ring in addition to the focus ring.
Viewfinder and LCD have 1.4x the resolution
Tripod mounting hole is inline with the lens.
LCD gains up in low light.
Separate control dials for shutter, aperture.
VGA-quality 30fps movie mode.
55mm filter threads, no adapter needed.
Battery and memory card can be changed while camera is on a tripod.
(The FZ20's battery/memory door looks like a tripod head would block
it.)

Not all of those are killer differences, but the package is really
attractive.

For balance, here's my list of cons:

Only slightly better image quality than the FZ20 after dealing with
noise.
Effective focal length is slightly shorter.
Heavier and larger by a little bit.
Macro slightly less capable than the FZ20.
Some CA at the wide end, some distortion, relative to the FZ20.
IS not quite as effective due to the higher resolution.

I don't own the camera and have simply dredged this stuff out of
reviews. Some of this stuff might even be wrong. I'd be interested
in hearing from owners of the FZ30 about which of these things
are actually important.

Paul Allen
 




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