Why the Nikon F6?

"Nick Zentena" wrote in message
...
Scott Chapin wrote:
I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but why would Nikon manufacture the F6?
With
digital technology moving the way it is, is their anyone desirous of
spending the motherlode on a new film based camera? Would it really
offer
features that you can't live without, if you are already shooting with
an F5
and waiting for digital to be reasonably perfected?


How much did it cost Nikon to design the new camera? How much will it
cost
to make? How much will it sell for? Compare all that to any digital
camera.
OTOH none of the top digital camera makers are companies most here would
call camera companies. Digital is quickly moving to a two tier market. The
bottom tier is going to make P&S cameras look advanced. The top tier is
going to be very small and very expensive. Better to make a film camera
that
you can sell for a fair profit.

Nick


Are you saying that most here don't consider Nikon and Canon to be camera
companies? I don't necessarily think that $1500 is too expensive for a good
digital camera on a professional level anyway, and the F6 probably will cost
around $2,000 I'm guessing.

Thanks,

Scott

"Nick Zentena" wrote in message
...
Scott Chapin wrote:
I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but why would Nikon manufacture the F6?
With
digital technology moving the way it is, is their anyone desirous of
spending the motherlode on a new film based camera? Would it really
offer
features that you can't live without, if you are already shooting with
an F5
and waiting for digital to be reasonably perfected?


How much did it cost Nikon to design the new camera? How much will it
cost
to make? How much will it sell for? Compare all that to any digital
camera.
OTOH none of the top digital camera makers are companies most here would
call camera companies. Digital is quickly moving to a two tier market. The
bottom tier is going to make P&S cameras look advanced. The top tier is
going to be very small and very expensive. Better to make a film camera
that
you can sell for a fair profit.

Nick


Are you saying that most here don't consider Nikon and Canon to be camera
companies? I don't necessarily think that $1500 is too expensive for a good
digital camera on a professional level anyway, and the F6 probably will cost
around $2,000 I'm guessing.

Thanks,

Scott

Scott Chapin wrote:


Are you saying that most here don't consider Nikon and Canon to be camera
companies? I don't necessarily think that $1500 is too expensive for a good
digital camera on a professional level anyway, and the F6 probably will cost
around $2,000 I'm guessing.


I doubt either is in the top five when it comes to sales volume. Both are
rapidly becoming niche players.

Nick

Scott Chapin wrote:


Are you saying that most here don't consider Nikon and Canon to be camera
companies? I don't necessarily think that $1500 is too expensive for a good
digital camera on a professional level anyway, and the F6 probably will cost
around $2,000 I'm guessing.


I doubt either is in the top five when it comes to sales volume. Both are
rapidly becoming niche players.

Nick

Scott Chapin wrote:


Are you saying that most here don't consider Nikon and Canon to be camera
companies? I don't necessarily think that $1500 is too expensive for a good
digital camera on a professional level anyway, and the F6 probably will cost
around $2,000 I'm guessing.


I doubt either is in the top five when it comes to sales volume. Both are
rapidly becoming niche players.

Nick

Scott Chapin wrote:

"Alan Browne" wrote in message
. ..

Scott Chapin wrote:


I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but why would Nikon manufacture the F6?

With

digital technology moving the way it is, is their anyone desirous of
spending the motherlode on a new film based camera? Would it really

offer

features that you can't live without, if you are already shooting with

an F5

and waiting for digital to be reasonably perfected?

The sales will tell all.

Somebody with an F5 probably will not immediately buy an F6.
Somebody considering an F5 would now, more likely, opt for the F6.

Film is not dead. I'm not tryiong to be sarcastic.


I knew no matter how hard I truely tried NOT to be sarcastic, everyone would
think I was sarcastic. It's the type of question that lends itself that way!
I was genuinely trying to gain an understanding, and not express my
viewpoint. I never said that film was dead.

I knew no matter how hard I tried to make that sound funny you
would think I was seriously poking at you you.

Here's a belated " ;-) ".

I'm also (while happy that Nikon have launched a major new film
camera) curious to know how people are reacting to it.

Cheers,
Alan

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Scott Chapin wrote:

"Alan Browne" wrote in message
. ..

Scott Chapin wrote:


I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but why would Nikon manufacture the F6?

With

digital technology moving the way it is, is their anyone desirous of
spending the motherlode on a new film based camera? Would it really

offer

features that you can't live without, if you are already shooting with

an F5

and waiting for digital to be reasonably perfected?

The sales will tell all.

Somebody with an F5 probably will not immediately buy an F6.
Somebody considering an F5 would now, more likely, opt for the F6.

Film is not dead. I'm not tryiong to be sarcastic.


I knew no matter how hard I truely tried NOT to be sarcastic, everyone would
think I was sarcastic. It's the type of question that lends itself that way!
I was genuinely trying to gain an understanding, and not express my
viewpoint. I never said that film was dead.

I knew no matter how hard I tried to make that sound funny you
would think I was seriously poking at you you.

Here's a belated " ;-) ".

I'm also (while happy that Nikon have launched a major new film
camera) curious to know how people are reacting to it.

Cheers,
Alan

--
-- rec.photo.equipment.35mm user resource:
-- http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
-- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.--

Scott Chapin wrote:

"Alan Browne" wrote in message
. ..

Scott Chapin wrote:


I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but why would Nikon manufacture the F6?

With

digital technology moving the way it is, is their anyone desirous of
spending the motherlode on a new film based camera? Would it really

offer

features that you can't live without, if you are already shooting with

an F5

and waiting for digital to be reasonably perfected?

The sales will tell all.

Somebody with an F5 probably will not immediately buy an F6.
Somebody considering an F5 would now, more likely, opt for the F6.

Film is not dead. I'm not tryiong to be sarcastic.


I knew no matter how hard I truely tried NOT to be sarcastic, everyone would
think I was sarcastic. It's the type of question that lends itself that way!
I was genuinely trying to gain an understanding, and not express my
viewpoint. I never said that film was dead.

I knew no matter how hard I tried to make that sound funny you
would think I was seriously poking at you you.

Here's a belated " ;-) ".

I'm also (while happy that Nikon have launched a major new film
camera) curious to know how people are reacting to it.

Cheers,
Alan

--
-- rec.photo.equipment.35mm user resource:
-- http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
-- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.--

In article , Scott Chapin wrote:
Actually it's good to know that film is still solid. So many are blindly
bashing it in other forums. I had just figured that there wouldn't be a
strong market for expensive 35mm still cameras, though I don't know what the
street price of the F6 will be.

We get CSI as reruns here in Israel and last night we had a New Year's
treat of 4 in a row. Since the F6 had just been announced I payed close
attention to the cameras they used.

Until someone invents a digital camera that cannot be tampered with (i.e.
the images edited) film cameras will stay in the police and forensics
business.

In every case escept one they took a photo it was with some sort of high
end film camera using a pentaprism view finder. The one case they did not
the "criminalist" pulled out a large "Camedia" camera that produced a polaroid
print, I expect that was "poetic license".

Unfortunately all they need is C-41 film and 1 hour labs, so while high end
film cameras will still be needed for a while, it does not say good things
for monochromatic film, paper and chemicals. :-(

I also expect that the real market for the F6 is pros who are buying D2x
cameras. Having the same look and feel, lens mount, and accessories
for both film and digital will be a big boost for them. I think it would
have been nice (but confusing) to name it the F2x as in film, model 2x
to compliment the D2x (digital model 2x).

Geoff.

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In article , Scott Chapin wrote:
Actually it's good to know that film is still solid. So many are blindly
bashing it in other forums. I had just figured that there wouldn't be a
strong market for expensive 35mm still cameras, though I don't know what the
street price of the F6 will be.

We get CSI as reruns here in Israel and last night we had a New Year's
treat of 4 in a row. Since the F6 had just been announced I payed close
attention to the cameras they used.

Until someone invents a digital camera that cannot be tampered with (i.e.
the images edited) film cameras will stay in the police and forensics
business.

In every case escept one they took a photo it was with some sort of high
end film camera using a pentaprism view finder. The one case they did not
the "criminalist" pulled out a large "Camedia" camera that produced a polaroid
print, I expect that was "poetic license".

Unfortunately all they need is C-41 film and 1 hour labs, so while high end
film cameras will still be needed for a while, it does not say good things
for monochromatic film, paper and chemicals. :-(

I also expect that the real market for the F6 is pros who are buying D2x
cameras. Having the same look and feel, lens mount, and accessories
for both film and digital will be a big boost for them. I think it would
have been nice (but confusing) to name it the F2x as in film, model 2x
to compliment the D2x (digital model 2x).

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, C.T.O. GW&T Ltd., Jerusalem Israel

IL Voice: 972-544-608-069 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838