How to tell a rank amateur from a seasoned one, or a pro

Mike Russell wrote:
By looking at their images.
Naturally, the subject rapidly turned to equipment, which may or may not
identify amateur vs. pro.
The best way to tell is this: the amateur is the one who is smiling and
appears to be enjoying him/herself.
Allen

On 2010-07-06 03:30:38 +0100, Allen said:

Mike Russell wrote:
By looking at their images.
Naturally, the subject rapidly turned to equipment, which may or may
not identify amateur vs. pro.
The best way to tell is this: the amateur is the one who is smiling and
appears to be enjoying him/herself.
Allen

Frequently, but not exclusively.

--
Pete

On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:30:38 -0500, Allen wrote:

Naturally, the subject rapidly turned to equipment, which may or may not
identify amateur vs. pro.
The best way to tell is this: the amateur is the one who is smiling and
appears to be enjoying him/herself.
Allen

The amateur just does it more often. The fool, all the time. The true Pro
only when it really matters to the art of photography. Their joy now being
100-fold that of the amateur or fool. Greater views for greater enjoyment
require more challenging climbs.

On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:43:51 -0500, Die Wahrheit wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:30:38 -0500, Allen wrote:

Naturally, the subject rapidly turned to equipment, which may or may not
identify amateur vs. pro.
The best way to tell is this: the amateur is the one who is smiling and
appears to be enjoying him/herself.
Allen

The amateur just does it more often. The fool, all the time. The true Pro
only when it really matters to the art of photography. Their joy now being
100-fold that of the amateur or fool. Greater views for greater enjoyment
require more challenging climbs.

Or a helicopter.
--
Mike Russell - http://www.curvemeister.com

On 7/6/2010 12:07 AM, Mike Russell wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:43:51 -0500, Die Wahrheit wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:30:38 -0500, wrote:

Naturally, the subject rapidly turned to equipment, which may or may not
identify amateur vs. pro.
The best way to tell is this: the amateur is the one who is smiling and
appears to be enjoying him/herself.
Allen

The amateur just does it more often. The fool, all the time. The true Pro
only when it really matters to the art of photography. Their joy now being
100-fold that of the amateur or fool. Greater views for greater enjoyment
require more challenging climbs.

Or a helicopter.

The true pro doesn't give a hoot in Hell about art, he's in it for the
money.

On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:53:09 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

On 7/6/2010 12:07 AM, Mike Russell wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:43:51 -0500, Die Wahrheit wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:30:38 -0500, wrote:

Naturally, the subject rapidly turned to equipment, which may or may not
identify amateur vs. pro.
The best way to tell is this: the amateur is the one who is smiling and
appears to be enjoying him/herself.
Allen

The amateur just does it more often. The fool, all the time. The true Pro
only when it really matters to the art of photography. Their joy now being
100-fold that of the amateur or fool. Greater views for greater enjoyment
require more challenging climbs.

Or a helicopter.

The true pro doesn't give a hoot in Hell about art, he's in it for the
money.

The pro that lets the whims of those with money define his art is no pro.

On 6 Jul 2010 08:10:51 -0000, JustBCause wrote:

On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:53:09 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

On 7/6/2010 12:07 AM, Mike Russell wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:43:51 -0500, Die Wahrheit wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:30:38 -0500, wrote:

Naturally, the subject rapidly turned to equipment, which may or may not
identify amateur vs. pro.
The best way to tell is this: the amateur is the one who is smiling and
appears to be enjoying him/herself.
Allen

The amateur just does it more often. The fool, all the time. The true Pro
only when it really matters to the art of photography. Their joy now being
100-fold that of the amateur or fool. Greater views for greater enjoyment
require more challenging climbs.

Or a helicopter.

The true pro doesn't give a hoot in Hell about art, he's in it for the
money.

Obviously you're not one.


This comes as no surprise, to anyone.

"Mike Russell" wrote in message
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On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:43:51 -0500, Die Wahrheit wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:30:38 -0500, Allen wrote:

Naturally, the subject rapidly turned to equipment, which may or may not
identify amateur vs. pro.
The best way to tell is this: the amateur is the one who is smiling and
appears to be enjoying him/herself.
Allen

The amateur just does it more often. The fool, all the time. The true Pro
only when it really matters to the art of photography. Their joy now
being
100-fold that of the amateur or fool. Greater views for greater enjoyment
require more challenging climbs.

Or a helicopter.
--
Mike Russell - http://www.curvemeister.com


In Tennis it's easy to tell the difference:
An amateur jumps over the net.
A pro's manager jumps over the gross.


--
Peter

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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On 7/6/2010 12:07 AM, Mike Russell wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:43:51 -0500, Die Wahrheit wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:30:38 -0500, wrote:

Naturally, the subject rapidly turned to equipment, which may or may
not
identify amateur vs. pro.
The best way to tell is this: the amateur is the one who is smiling and
appears to be enjoying him/herself.
Allen

The amateur just does it more often. The fool, all the time. The true
Pro
only when it really matters to the art of photography. Their joy now
being
100-fold that of the amateur or fool. Greater views for greater
enjoyment
require more challenging climbs.

Or a helicopter.

The true pro doesn't give a hoot in Hell about art, he's in it for the
money.



I don't know how many pros you know. I know at least a dozen fine are &
fashion photographers. Every one of them takes great pride in their art. I
only know two fine art photographers who do really well. (Income over 7
digits not counting decimals.)
Most I know are not in that business for the money. They do it for the self
fulfillment an artist gets.

--
Peter