Photoshop installation error

On Jun 3, 2018, PeterN wrote
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On 6/3/2018 10:23 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jun 3, 2018, PeterN wrote
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On 6/3/2018 12:38 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jun 3, 2018, android wrote
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On Sun, 03 Jun 2018 10:52:36 -0400, wrote
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In articlepan$8b115$d0c012fb$243ea1fd$6c8a56e6@there .was, android
wrote:


An iPad is all the computer you might ever need!

(Maybe)

No it isn't and it's not a computer by popular definition since it
lacks proper input devices and reasonable sized display.

an ipad absolutely is a computer by popular definition and for many
people, is ideal for their needs.

Not if they want to edit photographs properly.

You must have missed these:

https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/ipad-update/

http://www.pixelmator.com/ios/

https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom.html

Regardless of what you think it might be, the iPad, especially the iPad
Pro
is a computer.

https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/

Is an abacus also a computer?
How about the comptometer?

Actually, both are calculators. To turn them into computers their
calculating function should be programable, and automatic. Neither one has the ability
to do that, so they remain calculators, not computers.

Both are programmable, but not necessarily by the user. If they were not
programmable, they would not calculate.

It is the design configuration of both which enables the user to calculate,
not an automated program. It is only user skill which enables the capability
to calculate. With just an abacus, there is no program input, or data input
other than the human interface.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

In article , PeterN
wrote:


Is an abacus also a computer?
How about the comptometer?

do straw men own computers?

In article , PeterN
wrote:


It's a tablet. Little different from those that Samsung sells. I have a
Galaxy Tab 2 of that make tucked away somewhere...

actually, it's quite a bit different.

Liar. They are both sandboxed environments under running under a Unix
type kernel.

that's like saying a porsche and a yugo are both metal boxes with an
engine and wheels.


If you think about it, most cars are just four wheels, and steel.
Well this one of a kind has a lot of brass.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9hszpbvhjf8p5wi/20180603_cars%20antique%20flowers_6871.jpg?dl=0

whoooooooooooooosh

On Sun, 03 Jun 2018 21:46:02 -0400, PeterN
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I am not getting involved in a Win v Apple discussion. Both have
advantages, and both have disadvantages. In today's market, it is simply
a matter of personal preference.

Oki... You have had your say. You're totally wrong of course!

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teleportation kills

On 6/3/2018 10:44 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jun 3, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 6/3/2018 10:23 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jun 3, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 6/3/2018 12:38 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jun 3, 2018, android wrote
(in articlepan$20781$a9e593d9$f43753ef$2b7a24a7@there .was):

On Sun, 03 Jun 2018 10:52:36 -0400, wrote
in lid:

In articlepan$8b115$d0c012fb$243ea1fd$6c8a56e6@there .was, android
wrote:


An iPad is all the computer you might ever need!

(Maybe)

No it isn't and it's not a computer by popular definition since it
lacks proper input devices and reasonable sized display.

an ipad absolutely is a computer by popular definition and for many
people, is ideal for their needs.

Not if they want to edit photographs properly.

You must have missed these:

https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/ipad-update/

http://www.pixelmator.com/ios/

https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom.html

Regardless of what you think it might be, the iPad, especially the iPad
Pro
is a computer.

https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/

Is an abacus also a computer?
How about the comptometer?

Actually, both are calculators. To turn them into computers their
calculating function should be programable, and automatic. Neither one has the ability
to do that, so they remain calculators, not computers.

Both are programmable, but not necessarily by the user. If they were not
programmable, they would not calculate.

It is the design configuration of both which enables the user to calculate,
not an automated program. It is only user skill which enables the capability
to calculate. With just an abacus, there is no program input, or data input
other than the human interface.


Our difference is in the meaning of the word "programing." you have your
opinion, I have mine. My old electronic calculator is programed,
although the vast majority of users have no ability to change the
program. I have heard it said that the old electronic hand calculator
had more computer power than the computers used in the Apollo missions
to the moon. The inherent design of the abacus is an analog program, the
design of the early card readers were a digital program, that was user
changeable. IIRC the goal of the early digital computers was to
accomplish tasks that were formerly analog, more efficiently.

You may believe differently, but that is your right,
--
PeterN

On 6/4/2018 1:55 AM, android wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2018 21:46:02 -0400, PeterN
wrote in
:

I am not getting involved in a Win v Apple discussion. Both have
advantages, and both have disadvantages. In today's market, it is simply
a matter of personal preference.

Oki... You have had your say. You're totally wrong of course!



Sorry, I am not taking the bait. ;-)

--
PeterN

On Jun 4, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 6/3/2018 10:44 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jun 3, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 6/3/2018 10:23 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jun 3, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 6/3/2018 12:38 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jun 3, 2018, android wrote
(in articlepan$20781$a9e593d9$f43753ef$2b7a24a7@there .was):

On Sun, 03 Jun 2018 10:52:36 -0400,
wrote
in lid:

In articlepan$8b115$d0c012fb$243ea1fd$6c8a56e6@there .was, android
wrote:


An iPad is all the computer you might ever need!

(Maybe)

No it isn't and it's not a computer by popular definition since it
lacks proper input devices and reasonable sized display.

an ipad absolutely is a computer by popular definition and for many
people, is ideal for their needs.

Not if they want to edit photographs properly.

You must have missed these:

https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/ipad-update/

http://www.pixelmator.com/ios/

https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom.html

Regardless of what you think it might be, the iPad, especially the iPad
Pro
is a computer.

https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/

Is an abacus also a computer?
How about the comptometer?

Actually, both are calculators. To turn them into computers their
calculating function should be programable, and automatic. Neither one
has the ability
to do that, so they remain calculators, not computers.

Both are programmable, but not necessarily by the user. If they were not
programmable, they would not calculate.

It is the design configuration of both which enables the user to calculate,
not an automated program. It is only user skill which enables the capability
to calculate. With just an abacus, there is no program input, or data input
other than the human interface.

Our difference is in the meaning of the word "programing." you have your
opinion, I have mine. My old electronic calculator is programed,
although the vast majority of users have no ability to change the
program. I have heard it said that the old electronic hand calculator
had more computer power than the computers used in the Apollo missions
to the moon. The inherent design of the abacus is an analog program, the
design of the early card readers were a digital program, that was user
changeable. IIRC the goal of the early digital computers was to
accomplish tasks that were formerly analog, more efficiently.

You may believe differently, but that is your right,

Jacquard controlled looms with pattern cards of the 19th century could be
described as programable analog machines. that does not apply to an abacus
where the only program is the user skill.

....and we do seem to have different ideas regarding “program� and
programability.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

In article , PeterN
wrote:

Is an abacus also a computer?
How about the comptometer?

Actually, both are calculators. To turn them into computers their
calculating function should be programable, and automatic. Neither one
has the ability
to do that, so they remain calculators, not computers.

Both are programmable, but not necessarily by the user. If they were not
programmable, they would not calculate.

It is the design configuration of both which enables the user to calculate,
not an automated program. It is only user skill which enables the capability
to calculate. With just an abacus, there is no program input, or data input
other than the human interface.


Our difference is in the meaning of the word "programing." you have your
opinion, I have mine. My old electronic calculator is programed,
although the vast majority of users have no ability to change the
program.

then it's not a computer by the usual definition, which is a cpu,
display, input device storage for user installed apps and documents.

a calculator has a cpu, usually a numeric display (some graphic
calculators have a small graphic display), an input device (the numeric
keypad and assorted function keys), but no storage for apps or
documents, user installed or not.

it gets a bit fuzzy with programmable calculators, especially ones with
removable storage, such as the magnetic cards on the hp-65/67 or
modules with hp-41 series. those calculators *do* store apps, user
installed or commercially available.

I have heard it said that the old electronic hand calculator
had more computer power than the computers used in the Apollo missions
to the moon.

yep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer

The inherent design of the abacus is an analog program, the
design of the early card readers were a digital program, that was user
changeable. IIRC the goal of the early digital computers was to
accomplish tasks that were formerly analog, more efficiently.

early computers were analog.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A...ne_GPN-2000-00
0354.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_computer

On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 22:28:02 -0400, PeterN
wrote:

On 6/3/2018 10:23 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jun 3, 2018, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 6/3/2018 12:38 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Jun 3, 2018, android wrote
(in articlepan$20781$a9e593d9$f43753ef$2b7a24a7@there .was):

On Sun, 03 Jun 2018 10:52:36 -0400, wrote
in lid:

In articlepan$8b115$d0c012fb$243ea1fd$6c8a56e6@there .was, android
wrote:


An iPad is all the computer you might ever need!

(Maybe)

No it isn't and it's not a computer by popular definition since it
lacks proper input devices and reasonable sized display.

an ipad absolutely is a computer by popular definition and for many
people, is ideal for their needs.

Not if they want to edit photographs properly.

You must have missed these:

https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/ipad-update/

http://www.pixelmator.com/ios/

https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom.html

Regardless of what you think it might be, the iPad, especially the iPad Pro
is a computer.

https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/

Is an abacus also a computer?
How about the comptometer?

Actually, both are calculators. To turn them into computers their calculating
function should be programable, and automatic. Neither one has the ability to
do that, so they remain calculators, not computers.


Both are programmable, but not necessarily by the user. If they were not
programmable, they would not calculate.

The criteron is whether or not they employ a stored program, and they
do not.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

Is an abacus also a computer?
How about the comptometer?

Actually, both are calculators. To turn them into computers their
calculating
function should be programable, and automatic. Neither one has the ability
to
do that, so they remain calculators, not computers.


Both are programmable, but not necessarily by the user. If they were not
programmable, they would not calculate.

The criteron is whether or not they employ a stored program, and they
do not.

ones which the user can add/delete.

the calculator's built in programs, such as financial calculations,
does not mean a financial calculator is a computer. it's just an
advanced calculator.

however, as i said, the line gets fuzzy with programmable calculators,
which can store user created programs, but are not what someone would
consider a computer.