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Lightroom, MacBook with limited internal storage - how to work withseveral external USB sticks
I'm trying to understand LR Classic and/or CC's concept of storage.
I have a MacBook - it has 512GB internal SSD which will be shared with several users (family). So I cannot have my entire photo collection on there (in terms of the originals). Can LR manage working with photos stored in sets on a number of USB Sticks? I would tend to load up a stick with 1-2 year's worth of originals, so I would have sticks labelled: 2013-15 2015-17 etc depending on how many photos fit. Or do I need to put them on a single external device that's always there when I use LR? Starting from the ground up here, so trying to decide how to manage storage of the original photo files. At the moment they are on a big slow NAS. For LR work, I need them portable as I'll be working on the train and away from home. Cheers, Tim |
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Lightroom, MacBook with limited internal storage - how to work with several external USB sticks
In article , Tim Watts
wrote: Starting from the ground up here, so trying to decide how to manage storage of the original photo files. At the moment they are on a big slow NAS. For LR work, I need them portable as I'll be working on the train and away from home. smart previews is what you want, plus you should get a big fast nas to replace your slow nas. https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/lightroom-smart-previews.html € Smart Previews are much smaller than the original photos. You can free up disk space on devices with smaller storage capacities (for example, SSD drives) by choosing to keep original files on a high-capacity external device (for example, NAS devices or external discs). For example, 500 raw images from a high-end DSLR camera may occupy 14 GB of disk space. The Smart Preview files for the same images amounted to 400 MB of disk space. € Continue to work with your Smart Preview files even when the device containing your original photographs is disconnected. You can perform all edits that you would perform on the original file. € Automatically sync any edits made on Smart Preview files with your original files, as soon as the device is reconnected to your computer. € Once created, your Smart Preview files are always up to date. When your storage device is connected, any edits you make to the original file are applied*instantly to the Smart Previews as well. |
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Lightroom, MacBook with limited internal storage - how to work with several external USB sticks
On Apr 28, 2018, Tim Watts wrote
(in ): I'm trying to understand LR Classic and/or CC's concept of storage. To start with LR CCC will store locally on local HDD/SSD along with a good backup plan, while LR CC is intended to store using Adobe’s Cloud service so that files will be available to mobile devices. I have a MacBook - it has 512GB internal SSD which will be shared with several users (family). Start by being selfish and don’t share the MacBook with the family. Get the family their own MacBook. So I cannot have my entire photo collection on there (in terms of the originals). That is what external storage with portable HDD, SSD, or NAS is for. The likelihood of needing your entire collection of photo file while on the road is slim to none. Personally I have little reason to have RAW files from 2004 on a prortable device when I am on the road. Achive your old stuff on a portable drive, and don’t forget to back up to a second drive. Can LR manage working with photos stored in sets on a number of USB Sticks? That is a terrible idea. You would be better off buying a portable 1 or 2 TB SSD, or HDD to use when running LR CCC. There are several portable SSD systems intended for just that. https://www.sandisk.com/home/ssd/extreme-portable-ssd https://www.hypershop.com/collection...ve-colorspace- udma3 I would tend to load up a stick with 1-2 year's worth of originals, so I would have sticks labelled: 2013-15 2015-17 etc depending on how many photos fit. Not a good idea. Or do I need to put them on a single external device that's always there when I use LR? Yes. Starting from the ground up here, so trying to decide how to manage storage of the original photo files. At the moment they are on a big slow NAS. For LR work, I need them portable as I'll be working on the train and away from home. Lightweight portable drives are reasonably inexpensive today for work on the road, and you have access to the LR CC Cloud storage. Also for work at home the time has come to improve your NAS. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Lightroom, MacBook with limited internal storage - how to workwith several external USB sticks
On 28/04/18 19:45, Savageduck wrote:
On Apr 28, 2018, Tim Watts wrote (in ): I'm trying to understand LR Classic and/or CC's concept of storage. To start with LR CCC will store locally on local HDD/SSD along with a good backup plan, while LR CC is intended to store using Adobe’s Cloud service so that files will be available to mobile devices. I have a MacBook - it has 512GB internal SSD which will be shared with several users (family). Start by being selfish and don’t share the MacBook with the family. Get the family their own MacBook. Lob us a couple of grand and you're on mate! Seriously, not that rich... So I cannot have my entire photo collection on there (in terms of the originals). That is what external storage with portable HDD, SSD, or NAS is for. The likelihood of needing your entire collection of photo file while on the road is slim to none. Personally I have little reason to have RAW files from 2004 on a prortable device when I am on the road. Achive your old stuff on a portable drive, and don’t forget to back up to a second drive. Thank you. Can LR manage working with photos stored in sets on a number of USB Sticks? That is a terrible idea. You would be better off buying a portable 1 or 2 TB SSD, or HDD to use when running LR CCC. There are several portable SSD systems intended for just that. https://www.sandisk.com/home/ssd/extreme-portable-ssd That is a very nice looking device... 500/550 Write/Read MB/s 8000/16000 R/W IOPS @4k block http://www.thessdreview.com/hardware...-review-1tb/3/ That's one damn fast drive for a single device... Cheers for the link... https://www.hypershop.com/collection...ve-colorspace- udma3 I would tend to load up a stick with 1-2 year's worth of originals, so I would have sticks labelled: 2013-15 2015-17 etc depending on how many photos fit. Not a good idea. Is there any reasoning to that? Not being funny (or ungrateful to free advice) - I just like to understand the "why" Or do I need to put them on a single external device that's always there when I use LR? Yes. Starting from the ground up here, so trying to decide how to manage storage of the original photo files. At the moment they are on a big slow NAS. For LR work, I need them portable as I'll be working on the train and away from home. Lightweight portable drives are reasonably inexpensive today for work on the road, and you have access to the LR CC Cloud storage. Also for work at home the time has come to improve your NAS. Maybe - but that's another project (I've just redone my home network and Wifi and security - one project at a time |
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Lightroom, MacBook with limited internal storage - how to work with several external USB sticks
In article , Tim Watts
wrote: I have a MacBook - it has 512GB internal SSD which will be shared with several users (family). Start by being selfish and don¹t share the MacBook with the family. Get the family their own MacBook. Lob us a couple of grand and you're on mate! macbooks start at *under* $1000. I would tend to load up a stick with 1-2 year's worth of originals, so I would have sticks labelled: 2013-15 2015-17 etc depending on how many photos fit. Not a good idea. Is there any reasoning to that? Not being funny (or ungrateful to free advice) - I just like to understand the "why" it's a ****load of effort that is not only not needed, but begging to cause all sorts of problems. the best solution is smart previews, keeping a small proxy copy on the macbook and the full resolution copy on a nas. Lightweight portable drives are reasonably inexpensive today for work on the road, and you have access to the LR CC Cloud storage. Also for work at home the time has come to improve your NAS. Maybe - but that's another project (I've just redone my home network and Wifi and security - one project at a time what project? buy a nas, add some drives, done. configuration takes a few minutes and they can saturate a single gigabit link (some have multiple gigabit ports which can be aggregated). https://www.synology.com/ https://www.qnap.com/ |
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Lightroom, MacBook with limited internal storage - how to workwith several external USB sticks
On 28/04/18 21:40, nospam wrote:
In article , Tim Watts wrote: I have a MacBook - it has 512GB internal SSD which will be shared with several users (family). Start by being selfish and don¹t share the MacBook with the family. Get the family their own MacBook. Lob us a couple of grand and you're on mate! macbooks start at *under* $1000. Not Pros with decent GPUs Is there any reasoning to that? Not being funny (or ungrateful to free advice) - I just like to understand the "why" it's a ****load of effort that is not only not needed, but begging to cause all sorts of problems. So mostly down to the number of devices then? the best solution is smart previews, keeping a small proxy copy on the macbook and the full resolution copy on a nas. Lightweight portable drives are reasonably inexpensive today for work on the road, and you have access to the LR CC Cloud storage. Also for work at home the time has come to improve your NAS. Maybe - but that's another project (I've just redone my home network and Wifi and security - one project at a time what project? buy a nas, add some drives, done. configuration takes a few minutes and they can saturate a single gigabit link (some have multiple gigabit ports which can be aggregated). If it costs more than a hundred odd and/or becomes a central family resource, it gets designed as a project and integrated with my core network, not slapped in - that's how I roll A NAS makes a good backup target, but I think this application, a portable device is best for the main store - that Sandisk SSD will outstrip all of my network for transfer speed by a large margin. Much of this is governed by the fact it's only me working with photos. |
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Lightroom, MacBook with limited internal storage - how to work with several external USB sticks
In article , Tim Watts
wrote: I have a MacBook - it has 512GB internal SSD which will be shared with several users (family). Start by being selfish and don1t share the MacBook with the family. Get the family their own MacBook. Lob us a couple of grand and you're on mate! macbooks start at *under* $1000. Not Pros with decent GPUs what exactly is your family doing that requires a decent gpu? photoshop and lightroom, sure, but that's *your* macbook. are *they* also doing photo editing? Is there any reasoning to that? Not being funny (or ungrateful to free advice) - I just like to understand the "why" it's a ****load of effort that is not only not needed, but begging to cause all sorts of problems. So mostly down to the number of devices then? it's down to manually doing work that a computer can do for you. do you really want to keep track of which photo is on which drive?? and then there's the situation where you create collections that include photos from multiple drives. smart previews is designed for exactly the situation you describe, no additional hardware needed and no additional work required to use it. |
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Lightroom, MacBook with limited internal storage - how to work with several external USB sticks
On Apr 28, 2018, Tim Watts wrote
(in ): On 28/04/18 19:45, Savageduck wrote: On Apr 28, 2018, Tim Watts wrote (in ): I'm trying to understand LR Classic and/or CC's concept of storage. To start with LR CCC will store locally on local HDD/SSD along with a good backup plan, while LR CC is intended to store using Adobe’s Cloud service so that files will be available to mobile devices. I have a MacBook - it has 512GB internal SSD which will be shared with several users (family). Start by being selfish and don’t share the MacBook with the family. Get the family their own MacBook. Lob us a couple of grand and you're on mate! Seriously, not that rich... Who is? That response of mine was, shall we say, a tad facetious. ;-) So I cannot have my entire photo collection on there (in terms of the originals). That is what external storage with portable HDD, SSD, or NAS is for. The likelihood of needing your entire collection of photo file while on the road is slim to none. Personally I have little reason to have RAW files from 2004 on a prortable device when I am on the road. Achive your old stuff on a portable drive, and don’t forget to back up to a second drive. Thank you. Can LR manage working with photos stored in sets on a number of USB Sticks? That is a terrible idea. You would be better off buying a portable 1 or 2 TB SSD, or HDD to use when running LR CCC. There are several portable SSD systems intended for just that. https://www.sandisk.com/home/ssd/extreme-portable-ssd That is a very nice looking device... 500/550 Write/Read MB/s 8000/16000 R/W IOPS @4k block http://www.thessdreview.com/hardware...-review-1tb/3/ That's one damn fast drive for a single device... Cheers for the link... I believe that is probably your best option. https://www.hypershop.com/collections/storage/products/hyperdrive-colorspace-udma3 I would tend to load up a stick with 1-2 year's worth of originals, so I would have sticks labelled: 2013-15 2015-17 etc depending on how many photos fit. Not a good idea. Is there any reasoning to that? Not being funny (or ungrateful to free advice) - I just like to understand the "why" The cheapest solution is hardly ever the best. They are not the most secure, or safest storage device. Convenient for temporary storage, but not a good long term storage option. Or do I need to put them on a single external device that's always there when I use LR? Yes. Starting from the ground up here, so trying to decide how to manage storage of the original photo files. At the moment they are on a big slow NAS. For LR work, I need them portable as I'll be working on the train and away from home. Lightweight portable drives are reasonably inexpensive today for work on the road, and you have access to the LR CC Cloud storage. Also for work at home the time has come to improve your NAS. Maybe - but that's another project (I've just redone my home network and Wifi and security - one project at a time So you have some budget planning ahead of you. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Lightroom, MacBook with limited internal storage - how to workwith several external USB sticks
On 28/04/18 21:47, Savageduck wrote:
On Apr 28, 2018, Tim Watts wrote (in ): Lob us a couple of grand and you're on mate! Seriously, not that rich... Who is? That response of mine was, shall we say, a tad facetious. ;-) Ah - got it! "woosh to me" https://www.sandisk.com/home/ssd/extreme-portable-ssd That is a very nice looking device... 500/550 Write/Read MB/s 8000/16000 R/W IOPS @4k block http://www.thessdreview.com/hardware...-review-1tb/3/ That's one damn fast drive for a single device... Cheers for the link... I believe that is probably your best option. Yes - I am very much liking the look of that - and Sandisk has never let me down yet. Is there any reasoning to that? Not being funny (or ungrateful to free advice) - I just like to understand the "why" The cheapest solution is hardly ever the best. They are not the most secure, or safest storage device. Convenient for temporary storage, but not a good long term storage option. Just wondered... So you have some budget planning ahead of you. A budget freeze more like SWMBO has let me get away with a lot over the last 3 months, better not over do it! But they like the fact Wifi now works well (thank you Ubiquity) and gets 5GHz coverage round most of the house. So I have some brownie points. |
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Lightroom, MacBook with limited internal storage - how to workwith several external USB sticks
On 28/04/18 16:34, Tim Watts wrote:
I'm trying to understand LR Classic and/or CC's concept of storage. Thanks to all the comments here - I have a better understanding of possibilities and limitations now. |
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