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When does Photography become Art?
Unclaimed Mysteries wrote:
John Turco wrote in part: Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili (a.k.a., Joseph Stalin) studied for the priesthood, in his younger days. Would that Dolph and Joe had stayed with their original, respective occupational plans! German Expressionists would have invaded Czechoslovakia? Hello, Corry: A "shuttering" thought, indeed! g Cordially, John Turco |
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When does Photography become Art?
And lo, John Turco emerged from the ether
and spake thus: Aaron wrote: And lo, John Turco emerged from the ether and spake thus: Aaron wrote: I wouldn't go so far as to suggest that art can be made "automatically," although software such as "Aaron" (named aptly, I should add) pushes the boundaries of that belief. Hello, Aaron: Somebody named a program, after you? :-) edited, for brevity Salutations, John: No, regrettably, it was created when I was but a youngster still vandalizing my parents' walls with crayons. Hello, Aaron: Well, then, can you identify the person, of whom this "Aaron" application is a namesake? Could it be Henry "Hank" Aaron, the old baseball slugger, whose (Major League) career home run record is currently being threatened, by Barry Bonds? (Nah, didn't think so! g) Nevertheless, there can be a certain artistic property to creations made with a purposeful neglect for the process. Take, for example, The Blair Witch Project. I didn't like that film, but apparently enough people liked it to give it a fairly broad release. I wouldn't say that it is a masterpiece of cinema, or that it represents a timeless achievement in film, but it has a certain quality to it owing to how little post-production was done, which was a conscious decision on the part of the filmmakers. So, do you think that the infamously horrid Hollywood director, Ed Wood, ever created anything artistic? As I say, art is in the eye of the beholder. Surely Ed Wood's spectacularly horrid creations were unearthed in the '80s for a certain "camp" value that might, to some, be seen as artistic. That certainly doesn't make it good. At least Ed Wood himself satisfied two of the major prerequisites to artistic stardom: he died penniless and in obscurity... edited Sad, very sad. It was only after his death that he received any real recognition, whatsoever; even then, he became the subject of ridicule. Ed Wood (1924-1978) may have been a crummy director, but, he wasn't a bad person. The way he tried to help Bela Lugosi (1882-1956), his lone actor of any merit, was laudable. By the mid-1950's, Lugosi - immortalized, in "Dracula" (1931) - was an old, impoverished man, in poor health and far from his native land of Hungary. Wood was one of his few friends, in the whole world, when Lugosi eventually succumbed to a heart attack, in 1956. These events, among others, are depicted in the fictionalized account, "Ed Wood" (1994). Howlingly hilarious, with Johnny Depp in the title role, and Martin Landau stealing the show, as Lugosi (Oscar-winning performance, best supporting actor). Cordially, John Turco It's been a long time since I've seen that 1931 Dracula, but I recall that it had some cool mechanical effects that must have frightened the pants off of a 1931 audience, such as Dracula quickly "sliding" across the floor, as vampires are wont to do. The 1992 remake ("Bram Stoker's Dracula") was pretty scary in its own right. -- Aaron http://www.fisheyegallery.com http://www.singleservingphoto.com |
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When does Photography become Art?
"Aaron" wrote in message ... And lo, John Turco emerged from the ether and spake thus: [ . . . ] Sad, very sad. It was only after his death that he received any real recognition, whatsoever; even then, he became the subject of ridicule. Ed Wood (1924-1978) may have been a crummy director, but, he wasn't a bad person. The way he tried to help Bela Lugosi (1882-1956), his lone actor of any merit, was laudable. By the mid-1950's, Lugosi - immortalized, in "Dracula" (1931) - was an old, impoverished man, in poor health and far from his native land of Hungary. Wood was one of his few friends, in the whole world, when Lugosi eventually succumbed to a heart attack, in 1956. These events, among others, are depicted in the fictionalized account, "Ed Wood" (1994). Howlingly hilarious, with Johnny Depp in the title role, and Martin Landau stealing the show, as Lugosi (Oscar-winning performance, best supporting actor). Cordially, John Turco It's been a long time since I've seen that 1931 Dracula, but I recall that it had some cool mechanical effects that must have frightened the pants off of a 1931 audience, such as Dracula quickly "sliding" across the floor, as vampires are wont to do. Hmmm. I don't recall sliding across the floor at all in the 1931 Dracula, and I've seen it several times. Sure you're not thinking of Nosferatu (1922, I think)? It sounds more like the sort of thing that was done in that movie. The 1992 remake ("Bram Stoker's Dracula") was pretty scary in its own right. Yes, it was excellent. "Bram Stoker's Dracula" wasn't really Bram Stoker's Dracula, but it came closer to the novel than any of the others. Neil |
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When does Photography become Art?
And lo, John Turco emerged from the ether and spake thus (in part): [ . . . ] Sad, very sad. It was only after his death that he received any real recognition, whatsoever; even then, he became the subject of ridicule. Ed Wood (1924-1978) may have been a crummy director, but, he wasn't a bad person. The way he tried to help Bela Lugosi (1882-1956), his lone actor of any merit, was laudable. By the mid-1950's, Lugosi - immortalized, in "Dracula" (1931) - was an old, impoverished man, in poor health and far from his native land of Hungary. Wood was one of his few friends, in the whole world, when Lugosi eventually succumbed to a heart attack, in 1956. These events, among others, are depicted in the fictionalized account, "Ed Wood" (1994). Howlingly hilarious, with Johnny Depp in the title role, and Martin Landau stealing the show, as Lugosi (Oscar-winning performance, best supporting actor). PULL THE STRING!!! -- It Came From Corry Lee Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries. http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net |
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When does Photography become Art?
Neil Harrington wrote:
"Aaron" wrote in message edited, for brevity It's been a long time since I've seen that 1931 Dracula, but I recall that it had some cool mechanical effects that must have frightened the pants off of a 1931 audience, such as Dracula quickly "sliding" across the floor, as vampires are wont to do. Hmmm. I don't recall sliding across the floor at all in the 1931 Dracula, and I've seen it several times. Sure you're not thinking of Nosferatu (1922, I think)? It sounds more like the sort of thing that was done in that movie. The 1992 remake ("Bram Stoker's Dracula") was pretty scary in its own right. Yes, it was excellent. "Bram Stoker's Dracula" wasn't really Bram Stoker's Dracula, but it came closer to the novel than any of the others. Neil Hello, Neil: Personally, I've never been much of a horror buff. Give me that good, straight, old-fashioned 1950's science fiction cinema, I say! "Fiend Without a Face" (1958; British) is a perfect example, thereof. In somewhat keeping with the Dracula motif, this suspenseful chiller [starring American actor, Marshall Thompson (1925-1992)] concerns "mental vampires," as it were. So terrifying, it was banned in Sweden! g Cordially, John Turco |
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When does Photography become Art?
Unclaimed Mysteries wrote:
And lo, John Turco emerged from the ether and spake thus (in part): edited, for brevity These events, among others, are depicted in the fictionalized account, "Ed Wood" (1994). Howlingly hilarious, with Johnny Depp in the title role, and Martin Landau stealing the show, as Lugosi (Oscar-winning performance, best supporting actor). PULL THE STRING!!! Hello, Corry: "I play Lobo!" :-) Cordially, John Turco |
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When does Photography become Art?
And lo, John Turco emerged from the ether
and spake thus: Neil Harrington wrote: "Aaron" wrote in message edited, for brevity It's been a long time since I've seen that 1931 Dracula, but I recall that it had some cool mechanical effects that must have frightened the pants off of a 1931 audience, such as Dracula quickly "sliding" across the floor, as vampires are wont to do. Hmmm. I don't recall sliding across the floor at all in the 1931 Dracula, and I've seen it several times. Sure you're not thinking of Nosferatu (1922, I think)? It sounds more like the sort of thing that was done in that movie. The 1992 remake ("Bram Stoker's Dracula") was pretty scary in its own right. Yes, it was excellent. "Bram Stoker's Dracula" wasn't really Bram Stoker's Dracula, but it came closer to the novel than any of the others. Neil Hello, Neil: Personally, I've never been much of a horror buff. Give me that good, straight, old-fashioned 1950's science fiction cinema, I say! Greetings John, How about the classic "This Island Earth," forever immortalized in the riff tracks of Mystery Science Theater 3000 the Movie (which I've been trying to find on DVD for years), but not the most horrible campy sci-fi movie on its own right. On a more serious note, The Day the Earth Stood Still is always a good bet, too. -- Aaron http://www.fisheyegallery.com http://www.singleservingphoto.com |
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When does Photography become Art?
Aaron wrote:
And lo, John Turco emerged from the ether and spake thus: edited, for brevity Personally, I've never been much of a horror buff. Give me that good, straight, old-fashioned 1950's science fiction cinema, I say! Greetings John, How about the classic "This Island Earth," forever immortalized in the riff tracks of Mystery Science Theater 3000 the Movie (which I've been trying to find on DVD for years), but not the most horrible campy sci-fi movie on its own right. Hello, Aaron: Yes, "This Island Earth" (1955) is a valiant attempt at intelligent science fiction. I've never been particularly impressed with its "vaunted" special effects or production values (other than the brilliant Technicolor), though. Especially, as it was claimed to be "2½ years in the making" -- if so, there must've been a concerted effort, in creating a cost overrun! g Its stars, Jeff Morrow (1907-1993) and Rex Reason, teamed up again, the following year, in "The Creature Walks Among Us" (1956). I consider this to be the best of the three "Gillman" pictures, whereas most critics haved panned it, as the worst. The original "Outer Limits" (1963-'65) series ranks at the top of television's sci-fi shows, in my opinion. It seems to be a blend of Fifties-style monsters and Sixties social commentary, and is very skillfully crafted, overall. (I've both seasons, on a pair of DVD boxed sets.) Incidentally, if a you're a fan of science fiction camp, you'd probably savor the garbage, churned out by the noted hack director, Roger Corman. On a more serious note, The Day the Earth Stood Still is always a good bet, too. Indeed, I own a DVD version of "The Day the Earth Stood Still" (1950), and have both it and the aforementioned films, on VHS tape (recorded off cable TV). Cordially, John Turco PS: "Fiend Without a Face" (1958; British) - which I referred to, in an earlier post in this thread - is, essentially, a rehash of the much more famous "Forbidden Planet" (1956). Officially, the former is loosely based on a story, published in a 1930 issue of "Weird Tales" (an American pulp magazine). Regardless, I believe "Fiend" is the superior movie, and far less pretentious. |
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When does Photography become Art?
John Turco wrote:
Aaron wrote: heavily edited, for brevity On a more serious note, The Day the Earth Stood Still is always a good bet, too. Indeed, I own a DVD version of "The Day the Earth Stood Still" (1950), and have both it and the aforementioned films, on VHS tape (recorded off cable TV). edited Hello, Aaron: Correction: "The Day the Earth Stood Still" (1951). Cordially, John Turco |
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When does Photography become Art?
And lo, John Turco emerged from the ether
and spake thus: Aaron wrote: And lo, John Turco emerged from the ether and spake thus: edited, for brevity Personally, I've never been much of a horror buff. Give me that good, straight, old-fashioned 1950's science fiction cinema, I say! Greetings John, How about the classic "This Island Earth," forever immortalized in the riff tracks of Mystery Science Theater 3000 the Movie (which I've been trying to find on DVD for years), but not the most horrible campy sci-fi movie on its own right. Hello, Aaron: Yes, "This Island Earth" (1955) is a valiant attempt at intelligent science fiction. I've never been particularly impressed with its "vaunted" special effects or production values (other than the brilliant Technicolor), though. Especially, as it was claimed to be "2½ years in the making" -- if so, there must've been a concerted effort, in creating a cost overrun! g Its stars, Jeff Morrow (1907-1993) and Rex Reason, teamed up again, the following year, in "The Creature Walks Among Us" (1956). I consider this to be the best of the three "Gillman" pictures, whereas most critics haved panned it, as the worst. The original "Outer Limits" (1963-'65) series ranks at the top of television's sci-fi shows, in my opinion. It seems to be a blend of Fifties-style monsters and Sixties social commentary, and is very skillfully crafted, overall. (I've both seasons, on a pair of DVD boxed sets.) Incidentally, if a you're a fan of science fiction camp, you'd probably savor the garbage, churned out by the noted hack director, Roger Corman. On a more serious note, The Day the Earth Stood Still is always a good bet, too. Indeed, I own a DVD version of "The Day the Earth Stood Still" (1950), and have both it and the aforementioned films, on VHS tape (recorded off cable TV). Cordially, John Turco PS: "Fiend Without a Face" (1958; British) - which I referred to, in an earlier post in this thread - is, essentially, a rehash of the much more famous "Forbidden Planet" (1956). Officially, the former is loosely based on a story, published in a 1930 issue of "Weird Tales" (an American pulp magazine). Regardless, I believe "Fiend" is the superior movie, and far less pretentious. Salutations Mr. John Turco: It turns out that you are quite the vintage film aficionado. I, myself, appreciate a good camp flick from time to time and always enjoyed shows like The Twilight Zone, but have never seen "The Creature Walks Among Us" or "Fiend Without a Face." Being a subscriber to and avid user of Netflix, I will see about viewing those aforementioned films at some point. Right now I have Citizen Kane on my TV stand, having never seen it before! I'll also investigate Roger Corman while I'm at it, thanks for the tip. If there's anything I like better than good movies it's good *bad* movies. -- Aaron http://www.fisheyegallery.com http://www.singleservingphoto.com |
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