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Are You an In-Camera or Post-Camera Photographer?
On Jun 29, 2:27 pm, "Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote:
Lightroom's pretty good. I like it too. How about Export to create a JPEG? Export puts it through the exposure process again, meaning a needless occurrence of JPEG compression. What I'm looking for, is say that I take an image in JPEG format. It's completely unprocessed. When I use Lightroom to open it in an image editor for processing outside of Lightroom itself, it creates it as a TIFF(or photoshop file) first, meaning that I do my post processing, save the final result as a JPEG and have a redundant TIFF file hanging around. I'd like it if it would create a bit for bit identical copy of the JPEG straight from my camera, and use that as the launching point for my post processing, so that there is no redundant in between file. Of course, this wouldn't work if you'd done any post processing to the jpeg in Lightroom itself, but in the event you haven't, it would be nice to avoid the middle step In any case, that's a minor annoyance in an otherwise fantastic piece of software. Ray |
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Are You an In-Camera or Post-Camera Photographer?
And lo, Ray Macey emerged from the ether
and spake thus: On Jun 29, 2:27 pm, "Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote: Lightroom's pretty good. I like it too. How about Export to create a JPEG? Export puts it through the exposure process again, meaning a needless occurrence of JPEG compression. What I'm looking for, is say that I take an image in JPEG format. It's completely unprocessed. When I use Lightroom to open it in an image editor for processing outside of Lightroom itself, it creates it as a TIFF(or photoshop file) first, meaning that I do my post processing, save the final result as a JPEG and have a redundant TIFF file hanging around. I'd like it if it would create a bit for bit identical copy of the JPEG straight from my camera, and use that as the launching point for my post processing, so that there is no redundant in between file. Of course, this wouldn't work if you'd done any post processing to the jpeg in Lightroom itself, but in the event you haven't, it would be nice to avoid the middle step In any case, that's a minor annoyance in an otherwise fantastic piece of software. Ray I don't recall if the Library module allows you to create a physical copy, but what you want is to edit the original rather than "a copy with Lightroom adjustments." Editing the original will open it in whatever format it is, directly off the disk. I guess if you're only using Lightroom for its organization capabilities rather than its development capabilities, that would be all you'd need. Again, I'm not sure how to streamline making the editing copy into the Lightroom workflow, but there is probably something you can do. -- Aaron http://www.fisheyegallery.com http://www.singleservingphoto.com |
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On Jun 1, 9:08 am, "Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote:
Hi All, My latest post on the HP professional photography blog is up on this topic:http://h20325.www2.hp.com/blogs/grap...5/25/3484.html Cheers, Wayne -- Wayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker,http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ Publisher, Experimental Digital Photographyhttp://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com Personal art sitehttp://www.cosshall.com/ I use film; so should you, you moron. |
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Are You an In-Camera or Post-Camera Photographer?
UC wrote:
On Jun 1, 9:08 am, "Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote: Hi All, My latest post on the HP professional photography blog is up on this topic:http://h20325.www2.hp.com/blogs/grap...5/25/3484.html Cheers, Wayne -- Wayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker,http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ Publisher, Experimental Digital Photographyhttp://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com Personal art sitehttp://www.cosshall.com/ I use film; so should you, you moron. What part of rec.photo.DIGITAL? Now tell us who's the moron. |
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On Jul 3, 11:37 am, Allen wrote:
UC wrote: On Jun 1, 9:08 am, "Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote: Hi All, My latest post on the HP professional photography blog is up on this topic:http://h20325.www2.hp.com/blogs/grap...5/25/3484.html Cheers, Wayne -- Wayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker,http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ Publisher, Experimental Digital Photographyhttp://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com Personal art sitehttp://www.cosshall.com/ I use film; so should you, you moron. What part of rec.photo.DIGITAL? Now tell us who's the moron. This is in alt.photography, ASSHOLE! |
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Are You an In-Camera or Post-Camera Photographer?
Ray Macey wrote:
On Jun 29, 2:27 pm, "Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote: Lightroom's pretty good. I like it too. How about Export to create a JPEG? Export puts it through the exposure process again, meaning a needless occurrence of JPEG compression. What I'm looking for, is say that I take an image in JPEG format. It's completely unprocessed. When I use Lightroom to open it in an image editor for processing outside of Lightroom itself, it creates it as a TIFF(or photoshop file) first, meaning that I do my post processing, save the final result as a JPEG and have a redundant TIFF file hanging around. I'd like it if it would create a bit for bit identical copy of the JPEG straight from my camera, and use that as the launching point for my post processing, so that there is no redundant in between file. Of course, this wouldn't work if you'd done any post processing to the jpeg in Lightroom itself, but in the event you haven't, it would be nice to avoid the middle step In any case, that's a minor annoyance in an otherwise fantastic piece of software. Ray- I think I just did it. Here are the things I recall: Hit Cmd-E, and choose to edit a copy without LR adjustments. [maybe the others will work, too.] In the next dialogue, set it to be 8 bits. Do your editing, then flatten the image, and Save. It will return the edited image next to the one you started with. No TIFF or PSD hanging around. -- john mcwilliams |
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UC wrote:
On Jul 3, 11:37 am, Allen wrote: UC wrote: On Jun 1, 9:08 am, "Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote: Hi All, My latest post on the HP professional photography blog is up on this topic:http://h20325.www2.hp.com/blogs/grap...5/25/3484.html Cheers, Wayne -- Wayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker,http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ Publisher, Experimental Digital Photographyhttp://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com Personal art sitehttp://www.cosshall.com/ I use film; so should you, you moron. What part of rec.photo.DIGITAL? Now tell us who's the moron. This is in alt.photography, ASSHOLE! Now, now children, learn to read headers. fu set |
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Ray Macey wrote:
On Jun 29, 2:27 pm, "Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote: Lightroom's pretty good. I like it too. How about Export to create a JPEG? Export puts it through the exposure process again, meaning a needless occurrence of JPEG compression. What I'm looking for, is say that I take an image in JPEG format. It's completely unprocessed. When I use Lightroom to open it in an image editor for processing outside of Lightroom itself, it creates it as a TIFF(or photoshop file) first, meaning that I do my post processing, save the final result as a JPEG and have a redundant TIFF file hanging around. I'd like it if it would create a bit for bit identical copy of the JPEG straight from my camera, and use that as the launching point for my post processing, so that there is no redundant in between file. Of course, this wouldn't work if you'd done any post processing to the jpeg in Lightroom itself, but in the event you haven't, it would be nice to avoid the middle step From what I understand, you're looking for a piece of software that will edit the actual JPEG original, *without decompressing it* to an intermediate format first, even internally. I'm not sure if you're going to find much that does this. Most software tools are designed to work on an uncompressed bitmap/raster; while there are tools that perform some gross edits to compressed JPEGs (rotations, cropping), you're not going to be doing much fine tweaking. A little Googling* turned up "Better JPEG," which claims to do lossless JPEG rotations/flips, crops, canvas resizing, and red-eye removal. Website he http://www.betterjpeg.com/ It also claims to be able to do 'Copy/Paste to and from an external editor for local retouching without full recompression (lossless)' but I'm not sure exactly how that works. (Maybe it does some sort of diff on the start and end image and only changes/recompresses the changed areas.) But whole-image adjustments like levels, white balance, HSV? I don't think you'll be able to do those without recompression. -Kadin [*] Google term was "lossless jpeg editing" |
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The only idiot here is you if you believe that only film constitutes
photography. Go away and learn something about what you do, if you actually do any photography. Photography is photography, whatever the capture device is. Cheers, Wayne Wayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ Publisher, Experimental Digital Photography http://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/ UC wrote: On Jul 3, 11:37 am, Allen wrote: UC wrote: On Jun 1, 9:08 am, "Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote: Hi All, My latest post on the HP professional photography blog is up on this topic:http://h20325.www2.hp.com/blogs/grap...5/25/3484.html Cheers, Wayne -- Wayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker,http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ Publisher, Experimental Digital Photographyhttp://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com Personal art sitehttp://www.cosshall.com/ I use film; so should you, you moron. What part of rec.photo.DIGITAL? Now tell us who's the moron. This is in alt.photography, ASSHOLE! |
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"UC" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 3, 11:37 am, Allen wrote: UC wrote: On Jun 1, 9:08 am, "Wayne J. Cosshall" wrote: Hi All, My latest post on the HP professional photography blog is up on this topic:http://h20325.www2.hp.com/blogs/grap...5/25/3484.html Cheers, Wayne -- Wayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker,http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ Publisher, Experimental Digital Photographyhttp://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com Personal art sitehttp://www.cosshall.com/ I use film; so should you, you moron. What part of rec.photo.DIGITAL? Now tell us who's the moron. This is in alt.photography, ASSHOLE! And yet you managed to post to: alt.photography,aus.photo,rec.photo.digital,rec.ph oto.digital.slr-systems You are looking a bit silly now I think perhaps if you are not an "ASSHOLE" you will apologise? Over to you red leader!! Cheers. Pete |
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