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Dave Martindale added these comments in the current discussion du jour
.... Like dogs they also don't chase people who don't play with them and don't run away. That's why I use my real name and make it easy to find out my details. Spam filters deal with the noise. So I don't have the bother of keeping my contacts up to date with my address. A simple life. This whole name changing thing is hysteria. That's my impression to. I've been posting on Usenet under my real name since about 1980, and the email address in my current postings is valid and has been the same for about 14 years. I do get several times as much spam as real mail, but virtually all of it gets discarded before it reaches my mailbox. Occasionally someone *does* try to contact me about something I've written, and having a valid email address in postings makes that easy. Yes, but how do you know that your E-mail hasn't been stolen by a true bad guy that is using it OTHER than to send YOU messages? And in my experience, people who do contact me about Usenet postings are mostly polite. Even the less-polite messages are generally from people trying to tell me how strongly they disagree with me technically - they don't get personally abusive. There was a period, when spam was ramping up in volume and spam filters were just starting to be used, that I wished my email address wasn't as public as it is. But now spam is only a minor annoyance. The real danger is the bots running on Usenet looking for anything that looks like a valid E-mail address. Dangers run the gamut from spam to spyware to identity theft. -- HP, aka Jerry "This is the way he wants it ... well, he gets it" "What we got here is failure to communicate" "You’re gonna get your mind right" - The Cap'n to Lucas Jackson in "Cool Hand Luke" |
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In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems HEMI-Powered wrote:
Dave Martindale added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... Like dogs they also don't chase people who don't play with them and don't run away. That's why I use my real name and make it easy to find out my details. Spam filters deal with the noise. So I don't have the bother of keeping my contacts up to date with my address. A simple life. This whole name changing thing is hysteria. That's my impression to. I've been posting on Usenet under my real name since about 1980, and the email address in my current postings is valid and has been the same for about 14 years. I do get several times as much spam as real mail, but virtually all of it gets discarded before it reaches my mailbox. Occasionally someone *does* try to contact me about something I've written, and having a valid email address in postings makes that easy. Yes, but how do you know that your E-mail hasn't been stolen by a true bad guy that is using it OTHER than to send YOU messages? And in my experience, people who do contact me about Usenet postings are mostly polite. Even the less-polite messages are generally from people trying to tell me how strongly they disagree with me technically - they don't get personally abusive. There was a period, when spam was ramping up in volume and spam filters were just starting to be used, that I wished my email address wasn't as public as it is. But now spam is only a minor annoyance. The real danger is the bots running on Usenet looking for anything that looks like a valid E-mail address. Dangers run the gamut from spam to spyware to identity theft. With good modern spam filers spam is no longer the problem it once was for individuals. As for spyware via email, if you avoid using any of Micros**t's half-baked email extensions and Micros**t software to handle your email there's no danger of that. Finally with respect to identity theft, a well established and widely used on-line identity is the least likely to be stolen. As for the famous bots harvesting addresses from newsgroups, if you run a separate valid address used only for newsgroups it's easy to tell that those bots have ceased to be the terrible danger they're reputed to be by computer salesdroids, if indeed they ever were. -- Chris Malcolm |
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Chris Malcolm wrote:
Yes, but how do you know that your E-mail hasn't been stolen by a true The real problem is people even engaging in these discussions and in replying to the troll(s). Ignore these threads and ignore trolls and there will be no need to discuss what to do about them. |
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John Navas wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 06:20:18 +0000 (UTC), (Dave Martindale) wrote in : Chris Malcolm writes: Like dogs they also don't chase people who don't play with them and don't run away. That's why I use my real name and make it easy to find out my details. Spam filters deal with the noise. So I don't have the bother of keeping my contacts up to date with my address. A simple life. This whole name changing thing is hysteria. That's my impression to. I've been posting on Usenet under my real name since about 1980, and the email address in my current postings is valid and has been the same for about 14 years. I do get several times as much spam as real mail, but virtually all of it gets discarded before it reaches my mailbox. Occasionally someone *does* try to contact me about something I've written, and having a valid email address in postings makes that easy. Likewise -- I've been using a real and unique email address for Usenet from the very beginning, and based on periodic analysis of my incoming spam, including that caught by automatic spam filtering, my Usenet email address does not get substantially more spam by percentage than my non-Usenet email addresses. The conventional wisdom about the harvesting of email addresses for spam from Usenet hasn't proved to be a real issue. Very clearly, neither of you were victims of the "shootin wars" that went on for nearly a year in RPE35mm. |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:25:45 -0600, "HEMI-Powered" wrote
in : Dave Martindale added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... Like dogs they also don't chase people who don't play with them and don't run away. That's why I use my real name and make it easy to find out my details. Spam filters deal with the noise. So I don't have the bother of keeping my contacts up to date with my address. A simple life. This whole name changing thing is hysteria. That's my impression to. I've been posting on Usenet under my real name since about 1980, and the email address in my current postings is valid and has been the same for about 14 years. I do get several times as much spam as real mail, but virtually all of it gets discarded before it reaches my mailbox. Occasionally someone *does* try to contact me about something I've written, and having a valid email address in postings makes that easy. Yes, but how do you know that your E-mail hasn't been stolen by a true bad guy that is using it OTHER than to send YOU messages? I'd undoubtedly see some bounces, and haven't. And in my experience, people who do contact me about Usenet postings are mostly polite. Even the less-polite messages are generally from people trying to tell me how strongly they disagree with me technically - they don't get personally abusive. There was a period, when spam was ramping up in volume and spam filters were just starting to be used, that I wished my email address wasn't as public as it is. But now spam is only a minor annoyance. The real danger is the bots running on Usenet looking for anything that looks like a valid E-mail address. Dangers run the gamut from spam to spyware to identity theft. With all due respect, I don't think that's true -- there are much easier and more effective ways for them to get good email addresses, including compromised personal computers. -- Best regards, John [Please Note: Ads belong (only) in rec.photo.marketplace.digital] |
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Jurgen wrote:
Very clearly, neither of you were victims of the "shootin wars" that went on for nearly a year in RPE35mm. Hmm. One doesn't hear that term used often: http://groups.google.com.au/group/re...2aa3a5c49778b9 So who were you in those wars, "Jurgen"? (O: |
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"HEMI-Powered" writes:
Dave Martindale added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... That's my impression to. I've been posting on Usenet under my real name since about 1980, and the email address in my current postings is valid and has been the same for about 14 years. I do get several times as much spam as real mail, but virtually all of it gets discarded before it reaches my mailbox. Occasionally someone *does* try to contact me about something I've written, and having a valid email address in postings makes that easy. Yes, but how do you know that your E-mail hasn't been stolen by a true bad guy that is using it OTHER than to send YOU messages? That certainly happens. I get bounced email purporting to come from me that I didn't send. But so what? Faking the From address to appear to come from me is only of value when sending the message to someone who will treat that message somehow differently because of it - either getting the message through a whitelist filter, or getting the recipient to open it because they recognize my name. But none of these messages looks remotely like anything I would ever send, so even on the off chance that it's randomly sent to someone who knows who I am, I don't expect them to believe it came from me. Dave |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:12:10 -0800, John McWilliams wrote:
Er, ah, well, Me, Too! I am amused by the perpetuation of a very old saw that the bots will get you if you don't break up your real E-mail address in six different ways. Besides which, I've had some very nice folks contact me with opportunities for receiving a huge amount of cash just because I'm trustworthy and have a nice E-mail address..... Same here, and several years ago it resulted in a nice sightseeing/business/vacation in Nigeria. I did have to sell some of my older lenses to be able to get a replacement ticket home, but that's neither here nor there and I recall little of it anyway. |
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ASAAR wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:12:10 -0800, John McWilliams wrote: Er, ah, well, Me, Too! I am amused by the perpetuation of a very old saw that the bots will get you if you don't break up your real E-mail address in six different ways. Besides which, I've had some very nice folks contact me with opportunities for receiving a huge amount of cash just because I'm trustworthy and have a nice E-mail address..... Same here, and several years ago it resulted in a nice sightseeing/business/vacation in Nigeria. I did have to sell some of my older lenses to be able to get a replacement ticket home, but that's neither here nor there and I recall little of it anyway. Hey, same here! Did NOT enjoy those ice cold baths they do in Nigeria, but I did get to take extra luggage home as I was lighter on the way back - about the weight of one kidney, they said... |
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