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Old August 21st 12, 01:12 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Savageduck[_3_]
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‘Duck comments:

http://www.pbase.com/shootin/the_road

Since I was a little peeved with the way some of the dialog regarding
comments went recently, I had considered waiting to see what
materialized before posting any comments, but I have relented and here
is my contribution. I fully expect others to make some sort of effort
to add their $0.02.

Once more we seem to have a heathy turnout regardless of the recent
bizarre anti-SI TROLL postings. That said I will see what I can do to
hold up my end with some comments, whether you want them or not.
There are some anticipated shots, some with a twist and a few with an
interesting take of things “on the road”.

E. M. Lazardo:
On-Road-01:
This seems to be an allegory of being too long “on the road”. An
interesting composition, I just have to figure out what is behind the
door.
On-Road-02:
Somewhere between Barstow and Winslow? That’s a long stretch of road
and the shot shows the desolation, but is that California, or Arizona?
The vines on the left, and the whatever on the right make me think
California, but atypical of the route from Barstow to the border.
....but on to the shot. I like this, with the long rough, undulating
road taking a curve to the left before winding up the mountain. The
road dividing, what appears to be the last of agricultural green before
a surrender to sun parched hills. Nice.
On-Road-03:
The sky road. On the metaphoric road. Yup! A CPF would probably have helped.

Tim Conway:
On-Road-01:
Another of those unavoidable roads.

Stick?? who is Stick?:
On-Road-01:
Nice idea with the golden sunlight lighting the cobbled road through
the fortified wall. Nice touch having the car leaving to be “on the
road. I can’t help but believe that a CPF, or ND Grad, or a different
approach to your post processing might have made this a better shot.

Eric Stevens:
On-Road-01:
I’m glad to see NZ morning traffic is thin. I can’t say I like this
shot. I think it needs some sort of added punch. Perhaps an ND Grad to
cut the highlights and then brighten up the foreground. That might be a
fix. There might be another solution.
On-Road-02:
A “Bott’s DOT” and a bright “double yellow” snaking away to the right.
That is some coarse textured asphalt. I like it.
On-Road-03:
I assume that is “205 Queen Street”? A great busy shot of a mass of
humanity on the move. A total action, street shot. Another one I like.

Alan Browne:
On-Road-01:
Alan, you have the “view map” link locked up. Having said that, I like
this dirt road to the gap in the fence.
On-Road-02:
Another metaphor for the road, a flume moving water to a pond. I can’t
help but think this might be more pleasing in portrait orientation.
On-Road-03:
Nice waterfall, somewhere along the road, or perhaps another “waterway”?

Bowser:
Alan Note: Da map link ain’t a workin’!
On-Road-01:
I would expect nothing less from you that at least one show of bikes on
the road, and Pan Mass seems appropriate.
On-Road-02:
Now we are talking! That is a great piece of road, with red rock, black
top, and empty curves. I love it.
On-Road-03:
Desert, straight pavement, and Death Valley as a destination. The big
swimming pool at Furnace Creek could be a very good idea. B&W works
nicely for this. It just punctuates the bleak endlessness of that
highway.

Savageduck (yours truly):
Alan, I guess you locked up all the “view map” links.
On-Road-01:
This was on a drive up to Aromas, California, North of Salinas where a
former colleague was having a barbecue. I am facing West towards the
village. Looking East just gave me some vineyards and some not
particularly appealing, very straw dry hills.
On-Road-02:
Avila Beach Drive, between Avila Beach and Port San Luis, California.
There were some California Gray Whales in the bay, and there was a
pretty good view from the road above the beach. Inevitably there were
people stopping and asking what we were all looking at.
This is what we were looking at.
http://db.tt/cLG3A99M
On-Road-03:
Even close to home there are some roads which come to an end. In this
case the reason is obvious, given the 50 foot drop just on the other
side of the barrier.

Tony Cooper:
On-Road-01:
Poor armadillo. I guess they have as many problems as possum, skunks,
and chickens when it comes to solving the road problem. I guess you
could call it “street”. ;-)
On-Road-02:
Another road hazard to deal with when finding yourself on the road.
judging by the direction he is pointing that radar, he is reading, not
shooting it.
On-Road-03:
Nice lush road. I can only hope those boys in blue overlook the Honda
driver’s well meaning gesture of sharing the road with the cyclist

ClearyC:
On-Road-01:
Nice collection of bikes, but they all seem to be “rice burners”! That
makes the shot a bit of a Japanese abstraction, and I like it.
On-Road-02:
I like derelict stuff, and this bus is no exception. The promise of
being on the road is long gone. There are a few things which might make
this a bit better. perhaps a step or two back (or slight zoom out) so
that the mirror isn’t clipped. then a contrast tweak. Nice find.
On-Road-03:
On the beach with Viagra, another nice find which brings an ironic grin
to one’s face, but other than the novelty, there is something about
this one which doesn’t work. I am not sure what can be done with this
shot, technically it is OK, it might just be the odd juxtaposition it
presents.

Bob Coe:
On-Road-01:
I like Dale’s Ford. The blend of cobbles and asphalt works well.
However I believe you might have given it a bit more attention in post.
The mid-left highlight blows out a section of cobble, and the greenery
seems a little off. A touch more punch and this could be wonderful.
On-Road-02:
Two roads in one. A nice documentary shot with the asphalt burying the
track. What a shame.
On-Road-03:
This is a great location and a great shot. However I feel that it is a
tad bland and needs something.

Martha Coe
On-Road-01:
A cell tree, as part of the furniture on the road. A bizarre capture
On-Road-02:
A great find! One would think that steam roller might be quite a road
hazard parked where it is.
On-Road-03:
Sorry Martha, I am not a fan of the incidental flower shot. While they
might be related to the road in some way, this shot doesn’t do it for
me.

Frank Ess:
On-Road-01:
Another through the windshield and over the hood shot. This one works
surprisingly well, once more demonstrating the vast open spaces and
endless miles to be travelled. A slight horizon straightening
adjustment could add a finishing touch.
On-Road-02:
Aah! The overhead, over crowd, ape-hanger road shot. BTW: what is the
open wheeler?
On-Road-03:
Civilians on the oval! Made the wrong turn at that last exit huh?
Definitely on the road, but it’s the road to nowhere.

Otter:
On-Road-01:
What! No Willie, and the ghosts of the outlaws? Nice capture of the
character of the place. Definitely one of those attractions on the
roadside.
On-Road-02:
Nice B&W treatment which suits this image. Another one of those places
out on the road I guess.
On-Road-03:
OK! You can take the bag off your head now. Peter Neman is going to
love this one! That said, it is another of those magnificent accidents
which captures the energy of a frenetic night drive.

Dan Pet
On-Road-01:
I guess you saved a potential reject by having it fit the mandate
nicely. The camera movement enhances rather than detracts from the
overall impact. What concerns me, is this two lanes of one way traffic,
or are one or more of you engaged in passing maneuvers while shooting
images?
On-Road-02:
Much safer. I like this shot a lot, with the undulating road climbing
into the trees. The walker coming down towards the shooter. My big
problem with this is the overall feel of being completely out of focus.
I can’t find much of anything that is actually in focus, and that
spoils what could have been a good image for me.
On-Road-03:
This one is another stretch of the waterway, problem on the
waterway(road) metaphor. It’s a nice enough image, but seems way out of
place.

K. Pet
On-Road-01:
This is an image with much potential. Some planing with regard to focus
point and exposure settings would have gone a long way to making this a
great shot. I believe shooting at ISO 100 was not a good choice, I
think going to ISO 400 or 800 would be better. Then shooting aperture
priority, an aperture of f/8-f/12 would improve DOF. The -2/3 Exposure
bias dials thing down to dull. Shooting focused on the cyclist with the
better DOF should clean up much of the detail and brighten things.
On-Road-02:
Again a nice image, but it suffers from many of the issues of #1. You
are still at ISO 100, f/5.6, with an unnecessary -2/3 exposure bias.
You seem to have focused on nothing, when the middle girl might have
been a good choice. With similar aperture, & ISO adjustments as
suggested above I think you would have a more satisfying image.
On-Road-03:
Nice idea for the mandate, but once more I believe you are getting dull
results by shooting wide open at ISO 100.

Peter Newman:
On-Road-01:
Nice rail car (caboose I suspect) on the railroad, but the contrast and
saturation seems to be a tad over cranked to me.
On-Road-02:
Nice image, but this time I have different issues. I know the D300 can
perform better than that at ISO 800. There is too much noise and I am
not sure if that is ISO 800 noise(which I doubt) or over sharpening in
post. If ISO 800 noise, the noise reduction in ACR works very well now.
If due to over sharpening, well shame on you.
On-Road-03:
On the road, but Aaaaaggh! What were you thinking? Don’t tell us this
is some sort of strange Newman abstraction. Sorry Peter this is just a
back to the drawing board mess.

Paul Furman:
On-Road-01:
Long time no see. It is good to have you back. I hope you are replacing
some of that stolen camera equipment.
Nice atmospheric feel to this B&W, not bad at all considering the equipment.

Thanks for playing folks.




--
Regards,

Savageduck

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Old August 21st 12, 01:56 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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On 2012-08-20 20:12 , Savageduck wrote:

Alan Browne:
On-Road-01:
Alan, you have the “view map” link locked up. Having said that, I like


When logged in it works. When logged out I get
"You do not have the permissions to view or edit the image indicated by
the URL."

But there is no setting at all that I can find to allow the public to
use the map. I'll re-upload the images tomorrow to this gallery. I
suspect that when they were transferred from the temp gallery that
something got pranged - like last time.

--
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Old August 21st 12, 02:02 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2012-08-20 17:56:25 -0700, Alan Browne
said:

On 2012-08-20 20:12 , Savageduck wrote:

Alan Browne:
On-Road-01:
Alan, you have the “view map” link locked up. Having sa

id that, I like

When logged in it works. When logged out I get
"You do not have the permissions to view or edit the image indicated by
the URL."


Yup! That is what I am seeing.



But there is no setting at all that I can find to allow the public to
use the map. I'll re-upload the images tomorrow to this gallery. I
suspect that when they were transferred from the temp gallery that
something got pranged - like last time.




No rest for the wicked.
I just spent the best part of the afternoon working on my comments for all.

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Savageduck

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Old August 21st 12, 02:59 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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‘Duck comments:


This time with the individual image links.

http://www.pbase.com/shootin/the_road

Since I was a little peeved with the way some of the dialog regarding
comments went recently, I had considered waiting to see what
materialized before posting any comments, but I have relented and here
is my contribution. I fully expect others to make some sort of effort
to add their $0.02.

Once more we seem to have a heathy turnout regardless of the recent
bizarre anti-SI TROLL postings. That said I will see what I can do to
hold up my end with some comments, whether you want them or not.
There are some anticipated shots, some with a twist and a few with an
interesting take of things “on the road”.

E. M. Lazardo:
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145001541
This seems to be an allegory of being too long “on the road”. An
interesting composition, I just have to figure out what is behind the
door.
On-Road-02: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145001544
Somewhere between Barstow and Winslow? That’s a long stretch of road
and the shot shows the desolation, but is that California, or Arizona?
The vines on the left, and the whatever on the right make me think
California, but atypical of the route from Barstow to the border.
....but on to the shot. I like this, with the long rough, undulating
road taking a curve to the left before winding up the mountain. The
road dividing, what appears to be the last of agricultural green before
a surrender to sun parched hills. Nice.
On-Road-03: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145009045
The sky road. On the metaphoric road. Yup! A CPF would probably have helped.

Tim Conway:
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145287064
Another of those unavoidable roads.

Stick??:
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145391968
Nice idea with the golden sunlight lighting the cobbled road through
the fortified wall. Nice touch having the car leaving to be “on the
road. I can’t help but believe that a CPF, or ND Grad, or a different
approach to your post processing might have made this a better shot.

Eric Stevens:
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145421260
I’m glad to see NZ morning traffic is thin. I can’t say I like this
shot. I think it needs some sort of added punch. Perhaps an ND Grad to
cut the highlights and then brighten up the foreground. That might be a
fix. There might be another solution.
On-Road-02: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145421261
A “Bott’s DOT” and a bright “double yellow” snaking away to the right.
That is some coarse textured asphalt. I like it.
On-Road-03: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485065
I assume that is “205 Queen Street”? A great busy shot of a mass of
humanity on the move. A total action, street shot. Another one I like.

Alan Browne:
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145514507
Alan, you have the “view map” link locked up. Having said that, I like
this dirt road to the gap in the fence.
On-Road-02: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145514511
Another metaphor for the road, a flume moving water to a pond. I can’t
help but think this might be more pleasing in portrait orientation.
On-Road-03: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145514513
Nice waterfall, somewhere along the road, or perhaps another “waterway”?

Bowser:
Alan Note: Da map link ain’t a workin’!
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145436251
I would expect nothing less from you that at least one show of bikes on
the road, and Pan Mass seems appropriate.
On-Road-02: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145436252
Now we are talking! That is a great piece of road, with red rock, black
top, and empty curves. I love it.
On-Road-03: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145436253
Desert, straight pavement, and Death Valley as a destination. The big
swimming pool at Furnace Creek could be a very good idea. B&W works
nicely for this. It just punctuates the bleak endlessness of that
highway.

Savageduck (yours truly):
Alan, I guess you locked up all the “view map” links.
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145452450
This was on a drive up to Aromas, California, North of Salinas where a
former colleague was having a barbecue. I am facing West towards the
village. Looking East just gave me some vineyards and some not
particularly appealing, very straw dry hills.
On-Road-02: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145471669
Avila Beach Drive, between Avila Beach and Port San Luis, California.
There were some California Gray Whales in the bay, and there was a
pretty good view from the road above the beach. Inevitably there were
people stopping and asking what we were all looking at.
This is what we were looking at.
http://db.tt/cLG3A99M
On-Road-03: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145452452
Even close to home there are some roads which come to an end. In this
case the reason is obvious, given the 50 foot drop just on the other
side of the barrier.

Tony Cooper:
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145475823
Poor armadillo. I guess they have as many problems as possum, skunks,
and chickens when it comes to solving the road problem. I guess you
could call it “street”. ;-)
On-Road-02: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145475824
Another road hazard to deal with when finding yourself on the road.
judging by the direction he is pointing that radar, he is reading, not
shooting it.
On-Road-03: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145475825
Nice lush road. I can only hope those boys in blue overlook the Honda
driver’s well meaning gesture of sharing the road with the cyclist

ClearyC:
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485061
Nice collection of bikes, but they all seem to be “rice burners”! That
makes the shot a bit of a Japanese abstraction, and I like it.
On-Road-02: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485063
I like derelict stuff, and this bus is no exception. The promise of
being on the road is long gone. There are a few things which might make
this a bit better. perhaps a step or two back (or slight zoom out) so
that the mirror isn’t clipped. then a contrast tweak. Nice find.
On-Road-03: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485064
On the beach with Viagra, another nice find which brings an ironic grin
to one’s face, but other than the novelty, there is something about
this one which doesn’t work. I am not sure what can be done with this
shot, technically it is OK, it might just be the odd juxtaposition it
presents.

Bob Coe:
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485055
I like Dale’s Ford. The blend of cobbles and asphalt works well.
However I believe you might have given it a bit more attention in post.
The mid-left highlight blows out a section of cobble, and the greenery
seems a little off. A touch more punch and this could be wonderful.
On-Road-02: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485056
Two roads in one. A nice documentary shot with the asphalt burying the
track. What a shame.
On-Road-03: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485057
This is a great location and a great shot. However I feel that it is a
tad bland and needs something.

Martha Coe
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485058
A cell tree, as part of the furniture on the road. A bizarre capture
On-Road-02: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485059
A great find! One would think that steam roller might be quite a road
hazard parked where it is.
On-Road-03: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485060
Sorry Martha, I am not a fan of the incidental flower shot. While they
might be related to the road in some way, this shot doesn’t do it for
me.

Frank Ess:
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485066
Another through the windshield and over the hood shot. This one works
surprisingly well, once more demonstrating the vast open spaces and
endless miles to be travelled. A slight horizon straightening
adjustment could add a finishing touch.
On-Road-02: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485067
Aah! The overhead, over crowd, ape-hanger road shot. BTW: what is the
open wheeler?
On-Road-03: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485068
Civilians on the oval! Made the wrong turn at that last exit huh?
Definitely on the road, but it’s the road to nowhere.

Otter:
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485069
What! No Willie, and the ghosts of the outlaws? Nice capture of the
character of the place. Definitely one of those attractions on the
roadside.
On-Road-02: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485070
Nice B&W treatment which suits this image. Another one of those places
out on the road I guess.
On-Road-03: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145485071
OK! You can take the bag off your head now. Peter Neman is going to
love this one! That said, it is another of those magnificent accidents
which captures the energy of a frenetic night drive.

Dan Pet
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145486071
I guess you saved a potential reject by having it fit the mandate
nicely. The camera movement enhances rather than detracts from the
overall impact. What concerns me, is this two lanes of one way traffic,
or are one or more of you engaged in passing maneuvers while shooting
images?
On-Road-02: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145486074
Much safer. I like this shot a lot, with the undulating road climbing
into the trees. The walker coming down towards the shooter. My big
problem with this is the overall feel of being completely out of focus.
I can’t find much of anything that is actually in focus, and that
spoils what could have been a good image for me.
On-Road-03: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145486077
This one is another stretch of the waterway, problem on the
waterway(road) metaphor. It’s a nice enough image, but seems way out of
place.

K. Pet
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145487125
This is an image with much potential. Some planing with regard to focus
point and exposure settings would have gone a long way to making this a
great shot. I believe shooting at ISO 100 was not a good choice, I
think going to ISO 400 or 800 would be better. Then shooting aperture
priority, an aperture of f/8-f/12 would improve DOF. The -2/3 Exposure
bias dials thing down to dull. Shooting focused on the cyclist with the
better DOF should clean up much of the detail and brighten things.
On-Road-02: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145487128
Again a nice image, but it suffers from many of the issues of #1. You
are still at ISO 100, f/5.6, with an unnecessary -2/3 exposure bias.
You seem to have focused on nothing, when the middle girl might have
been a good choice. With similar aperture, & ISO adjustments as
suggested above I think you would have a more satisfying image.
On-Road-03: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145487130
Nice idea for the mandate, but once more I believe you are getting dull
results by shooting wide open at ISO 100.

Peter Newman:
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145508809
Nice rail car (caboose I suspect) on the railroad, but the contrast and
saturation seems to be a tad over cranked to me.
On-Road-02: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145508813
Nice image, but this time I have different issues. I know the D300 can
perform better than that at ISO 800. There is too much noise and I am
not sure if that is ISO 800 noise(which I doubt) or over sharpening in
post. If ISO 800 noise, the noise reduction in ACR works very well now.
If due to over sharpening, well shame on you.
On-Road-03: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145508815
On the road, but Aaaaaggh! What were you thinking? Don’t tell us this
is some sort of strange Newman abstraction. Sorry Peter this is just a
back to the drawing board mess.

Paul Furman:
On-Road-01: http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/145508817
Long time no see. It is good to have you back. I hope you are replacing
some of that stolen camera equipment.
Nice atmospheric feel to this B&W, not bad at all considering the equipment.

Thanks for playing folks!





--
Regards,

Savageduck

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Old August 21st 12, 03:06 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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On 8/20/2012 8:12 PM, Savageduck wrote:
‘Duck comments:

snip


Peter Newman:
On-Road-01:
Nice rail car (caboose I suspect) on the railroad, but the contrast and
saturation seems to be a tad over cranked to me.


And deliberately so. I was trying to make a statement about the garish
lifestyle that existed for many in the days of the caboose.

On-Road-02:
Nice image, but this time I have different issues. I know the D300 can
perform better than that at ISO 800. There is too much noise and I am
not sure if that is ISO 800 noise(which I doubt) or over sharpening in
post. If ISO 800 noise, the noise reduction in ACR works very well now.
If due to over sharpening, well shame on you.


I guess my eyes are getting old. I was playing with a new method of
sharpening. When I get some time I would probably redo this image as a
low-key soft focus presentation.

On-Road-03:
On the road, but Aaaaaggh! What were you thinking? Don’t tell us this is
some sort of strange Newman abstraction. Sorry Peter this is just a back
to the drawing board mess.

I just happened to like the way those kids were relating to their ride
on the back of that carriage. I was shooting through the windshield with
a fairly soft lens. (18 – 200). Of course, everything but the children
was converted to monochrome because the carriage had these bright red
reflectors that were distracting.

I really appreciate all comments, and the ones telling me what is wrong,
even more.

--

PeterN
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Old August 21st 12, 03:07 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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On 8/20/2012 9:02 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2012-08-20 17:56:25 -0700, Alan Browne
said:

On 2012-08-20 20:12 , Savageduck wrote:

Alan Browne:
On-Road-01:
Alan, you have the “view map” link locked up. Having sa

id that, I like

When logged in it works. When logged out I get
"You do not have the permissions to view or edit the image indicated
by the URL."


Yup! That is what I am seeing.



But there is no setting at all that I can find to allow the public to
use the map. I'll re-upload the images tomorrow to this gallery. I
suspect that when they were transferred from the temp gallery that
something got pranged - like last time.




No rest for the wicked.
I just spent the best part of the afternoon working on my comments for all.


I was unsuccessful in beating you to the punch.

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Old August 21st 12, 03:24 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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On 2012-08-20 19:06:41 -0700, PeterN said:

On 8/20/2012 8:12 PM, Savageduck wrote:
‘Duck comments:

snip


Peter Newman:
On-Road-01:
Nice rail car (caboose I suspect) on the railroad, but the contrast and
saturation seems to be a tad over cranked to me.


And deliberately so. I was trying to make a statement about the garish
lifestyle that existed for many in the days of the caboose.


OK! I'll buy that.

On-Road-02:
Nice image, but this time I have different issues. I know the D300 can
perform better than that at ISO 800. There is too much noise and I am
not sure if that is ISO 800 noise(which I doubt) or over sharpening in
post. If ISO 800 noise, the noise reduction in ACR works very well now.
If due to over sharpening, well shame on you.


I guess my eyes are getting old. I was playing with a new method of sharpening.


High Pass?

When I get some time I would probably redo this image as a low-key soft
focus presentation.


Hey! If you send me the NEF or an unaltered jpeg(dropbox link) via
email, I might have an idea or two to deal with the noise and sharpen.

On-Road-03:
On the road, but Aaaaaggh! What were you thinking? Don’t tell us this is
some sort of strange Newman abstraction. Sorry Peter this is just a back
to the drawing board mess.

I just happened to like the way those kids were relating to their ride
on the back of that carriage. I was shooting through the windshield
with a fairly soft lens. (18 – 200). Of course, everything but the
children was converted to monochrome because the carriage had these
bright red reflectors that were distracting.


I get where you were going with this, but I couldn't get over the
issues my brain refused to dismiss.


I really appreciate all comments, and the ones telling me what is
wrong, even more.



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Regards,

Savageduck

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Old August 21st 12, 05:26 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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On 8/20/2012 10:24 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2012-08-20 19:06:41 -0700, PeterN said:

On 8/20/2012 8:12 PM, Savageduck wrote:
‘Duck comments:

snip


Peter Newman:
On-Road-01:
Nice rail car (caboose I suspect) on the railroad, but the contrast and
saturation seems to be a tad over cranked to me.


And deliberately so. I was trying to make a statement about the garish
lifestyle that existed for many in the days of the caboose.


OK! I'll buy that.

On-Road-02:
Nice image, but this time I have different issues. I know the D300 can
perform better than that at ISO 800. There is too much noise and I am
not sure if that is ISO 800 noise(which I doubt) or over sharpening in
post. If ISO 800 noise, the noise reduction in ACR works very well now.
If due to over sharpening, well shame on you.


I guess my eyes are getting old. I was playing with a new method of
sharpening.


High Pass?


Nope. Double sharpening on the Luminescence channel, high threshold in
LAB. I was looking for an almost embossed effect, I send you the link
later n the week. I want to play some more.



When I get some time I would probably redo this image as a low-key
soft focus presentation.


Hey! If you send me the NEF or an unaltered jpeg(dropbox link) via
email, I might have an idea or two to deal with the noise and sharpen.

On-Road-03:
On the road, but Aaaaaggh! What were you thinking? Don’t tell us
this is
some sort of strange Newman abstraction. Sorry Peter this is just a back
to the drawing board mess.

I just happened to like the way those kids were relating to their
ride on the back of that carriage. I was shooting through the
windshield with a fairly soft lens. (18 – 200). Of course,
everything but the children was converted to monochrome because the
carriage had these bright red reflectors that were distracting.


I get where you were going with this, but I couldn't get over the issues
my brain refused to dismiss.


I really appreciate all comments, and the ones telling me what is
wrong, even more.





--
Peter
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Old August 21st 12, 06:18 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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On 2012-08-20 17:56:25 -0700, Alan Browne
said:

On 2012-08-20 20:12 , Savageduck wrote:

Alan Browne:
On-Road-01:
Alan, you have the “view map” link locked up. Having sa

id that, I like

When logged in it works. When logged out I get
"You do not have the permissions to view or edit the image indicated by
the URL."

But there is no setting at all that I can find to allow the public to
use the map. I'll re-upload the images tomorrow to this gallery. I
suspect that when they were transferred from the temp gallery that
something got pranged - like last time.


BTW; I also noticed that all three of my shots had the EXIF data striped.

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Savageduck

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Old August 21st 12, 07:10 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:12:00 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

Duck comments:

http://www.pbase.com/shootin/the_road

Since I was a little peeved with the way some of the dialog regarding
comments went recently, I had considered waiting to see what
materialized before posting any comments, but I have relented and here
is my contribution. I fully expect others to make some sort of effort
to add their $0.02.

Once more we seem to have a heathy turnout regardless of the recent
bizarre anti-SI TROLL postings. That said I will see what I can do to
hold up my end with some comments, whether you want them or not.
There are some anticipated shots, some with a twist and a few with an
interesting take of things on the road.



Bowser:
Alan Note: Da map link aint a workin!
On-Road-01:
I would expect nothing less from you that at least one show of bikes on
the road, and Pan Mass seems appropriate.


True, and it was a hell of a ride! Two days, 192 miles, and very hot
and humid. I ate constantly and still shed about 4 pounds over the
ride. I fell way short of my fundraising commitment, but still a great
experience overall.

On-Road-02:
Now we are talking! That is a great piece of road, with red rock, black
top, and empty curves. I love it.


Valley of Fire is a great take. If you in LV for any reason, it's not
a great distance. Love the place.

On-Road-03:
Desert, straight pavement, and Death Valley as a destination. The big
swimming pool at Furnace Creek could be a very good idea. B&W works
nicely for this. It just punctuates the bleak endlessness of that
highway.


On the day I shot this I set up the tripod in the road and shot a few.
After 10 minutes the tripod was too hot to touch so I had to use my
shirt to get it back in the car. Temps were hovering around 121F that
day.

It was pretty funny at the Furnace Creek restaurant, though. There we
were, in air conditioned comfort in the middle of a brutal desert and
some woman in the next booth was moaning that they didn't have her
favorite flavor of ice cream. Oh, well.
 




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