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Alan Meyer wrote: I heard a very experienced professional National Geographic photographer interviewed on TV talking about some of the differences between film and digital. One difference he noted was that, with digital, he tended to review his shots in camera and delete those that he thought were no good. With film, he sent his exposed film back to headquarters where his editor looked at it before he did - sometimes choosing an image to publish that the photographer would have thrown away. Only later, after the photo editor singled it out for him, did he realize that it was a great shot. He thought that some photos were only recognized later for being as good as they were. So, my question is, how selective are you in keeping photos? Do you: 1. Review a shot immediately after taking it and delete it if it doesn't impress you? 2. Review all your shots in the camera when time permits, deleting those that don't impress you? Substitute "poorly exposed or focussed" for "don't impress you", and that's my approach. 3. Save everything to your computer and review it there - deleting shots that don't impress you? This is the second level,where one can see in more detail if a shot is technically acceptable, and start to make aesthetic decisions. 4. Save everything, impressive or not? If you own stock in Seagate or WD or Maxtor, sure It seems the closer we get to number 1 above, the more likely we are to delete good photos by accident. But the closer we get to number 4, the more likely we are to hang on to reams of useless, embarrassing dross. What do you tend to do? Why? Edit, edit, then edit again, where editing means to eliminate photos that don't make the cut. When you get to where you're not comfortable cutting any more, save them all. Lisa |
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Hi,
Save everything, copied to CD-R, where you can store about 200 hi-res pix for under $1. You never know when a seemingly ordinary picture becomes important, or even priceless. Mo Alan Meyer wrote: I heard a very experienced professional National Geographic photographer interviewed on TV talking about some of the differences between film and digital. One difference he noted was that, with digital, he tended to review his shots in camera and delete those that he thought were no good. With film, he sent his exposed film back to headquarters where his editor looked at it before he did - sometimes choosing an image to publish that the photographer would have thrown away. Only later, after the photo editor singled it out for him, did he realize that it was a great shot. He thought that some photos were only recognized later for being as good as they were. So, my question is, how selective are you in keeping photos? Do you: 1. Review a shot immediately after taking it and delete it if it doesn't impress you? 2. Review all your shots in the camera when time permits, deleting those that don't impress you? 3. Save everything to your computer and review it there - deleting shots that don't impress you? 4. Save everything, impressive or not? It seems the closer we get to number 1 above, the more likely we are to delete good photos by accident. But the closer we get to number 4, the more likely we are to hang on to reams of useless, embarrassing dross. What do you tend to do? Why? |
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"mort" wrote in message ... Hi, Save everything, copied to CD-R, where you can store about 200 hi-res pix for under $1. You never know when a seemingly ordinary picture becomes important, or even priceless. Mo Alan Meyer wrote: I have a photo of John F. Kennedy -- pretty ordinary, as you described. I was standing right by the side of the road, and he turned directly toward me as the motorcade passed by. There is nothing wrong with the photo, but there is also nothing "special" about it -- at least, there wasn't when I first took it. The photo is like any of many, many others taken by thousands of other people. However, it took on new meaning for me after the assassination, just a few months later. MaryL |
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Lisa Horton wrote: Alan Meyer wrote: I heard a very experienced professional National Geographic photographer interviewed on TV talking about some of the differences between film and digital. One difference he noted was that, with digital, he tended to review his shots in camera and delete those that he thought were no good. With film, he sent his exposed film back to headquarters where his editor looked at it before he did - sometimes choosing an image to publish that the photographer would have thrown away. Only later, after the photo editor singled it out for him, did he realize that it was a great shot. He thought that some photos were only recognized later for being as good as they were. So, my question is, how selective are you in keeping photos? Do you: 1. Review a shot immediately after taking it and delete it if it doesn't impress you? 2. Review all your shots in the camera when time permits, deleting those that don't impress you? Substitute "poorly exposed or focussed" for "don't impress you", and that's my approach. 3. Save everything to your computer and review it there - deleting shots that don't impress you? This is the second level,where one can see in more detail if a shot is technically acceptable, and start to make aesthetic decisions. 4. Save everything, impressive or not? If you own stock in Seagate or WD or Maxtor, sure No, no,no. A blank CD-R that can hold 200 hi-res pix costs less than $1. You definitely do not have to store pix on a hard drive. Morton It seems the closer we get to number 1 above, the more likely we are to delete good photos by accident. But the closer we get to number 4, the more likely we are to hang on to reams of useless, embarrassing dross. What do you tend to do? Why? Edit, edit, then edit again, where editing means to eliminate photos that don't make the cut. When you get to where you're not comfortable cutting any more, save them all. Lisa |
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Lisa Horton wrote: Alan Meyer wrote: I heard a very experienced professional National Geographic photographer interviewed on TV talking about some of the differences between film and digital. One difference he noted was that, with digital, he tended to review his shots in camera and delete those that he thought were no good. With film, he sent his exposed film back to headquarters where his editor looked at it before he did - sometimes choosing an image to publish that the photographer would have thrown away. Only later, after the photo editor singled it out for him, did he realize that it was a great shot. He thought that some photos were only recognized later for being as good as they were. So, my question is, how selective are you in keeping photos? Do you: 1. Review a shot immediately after taking it and delete it if it doesn't impress you? 2. Review all your shots in the camera when time permits, deleting those that don't impress you? Substitute "poorly exposed or focussed" for "don't impress you", and that's my approach. 3. Save everything to your computer and review it there - deleting shots that don't impress you? This is the second level,where one can see in more detail if a shot is technically acceptable, and start to make aesthetic decisions. 4. Save everything, impressive or not? If you own stock in Seagate or WD or Maxtor, sure No, no,no. A blank CD-R that can hold 200 hi-res pix costs less than $1. You definitely do not have to store pix on a hard drive. Morton It seems the closer we get to number 1 above, the more likely we are to delete good photos by accident. But the closer we get to number 4, the more likely we are to hang on to reams of useless, embarrassing dross. What do you tend to do? Why? Edit, edit, then edit again, where editing means to eliminate photos that don't make the cut. When you get to where you're not comfortable cutting any more, save them all. Lisa |
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On 27 Dec 2004 12:06:22 -0800, "Alan Meyer" wrote:
Excellent topic! Can't wait to read replies. |
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:14:05 -0500, "Cynicor"
wrote: When I review a pic on the camera, I'll delete it if it's badly blurred or if it didn't come out - like the corner of a room instead of a person's face, or if something walks in front of the lens. Otherwise, I save EVERYTHING, usually in both JPG and RAW. I make daily directories with shooting information in the name (like "1998-12-11 XMas tree and sideboard") so that I can browse through the directory quickly. I can make more than one directory with the same date ("2004-12-25 Christmas" and "2004-12-25 Moon") if I'm shooting more than one thing. I name them yyyy-mm-dd so that they automatically sort by date. What discipline! (And I'm not being a smart ass) I wish I had that discipline. I seem to go at it hodge podge using method 1 through 4 at random! |
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:14:05 -0500, "Cynicor"
wrote: When I review a pic on the camera, I'll delete it if it's badly blurred or if it didn't come out - like the corner of a room instead of a person's face, or if something walks in front of the lens. Otherwise, I save EVERYTHING, usually in both JPG and RAW. I make daily directories with shooting information in the name (like "1998-12-11 XMas tree and sideboard") so that I can browse through the directory quickly. I can make more than one directory with the same date ("2004-12-25 Christmas" and "2004-12-25 Moon") if I'm shooting more than one thing. I name them yyyy-mm-dd so that they automatically sort by date. What discipline! (And I'm not being a smart ass) I wish I had that discipline. I seem to go at it hodge podge using method 1 through 4 at random! |
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Don Lathrop wrote:
I use ACDSee and Lupas Rename a LOT. I use ACDsee for the drag & drop rearrangement into a slide show and ACD does an easy right click batch rename to freeze the new slide show sequence with numbers: 01-DSC_5354++.jpg 02-DSC_5331.jpg 03-DSC_5330+.jpg ACD is quick loading thumbs & browsing but chokes moving files for some reason. ThumbsPlus is good for moving into the reject folder but slow building thumbs. Irfanview is crap with thumbnails but super fast as my default file association to load & scroll thru a folder & display full screen and rename with the F7 key to add plusses for shots that really grab me. ALT-F-E opens the file in photoshop. I always (try to remember to) keep the unique file number 5354 in DSC_5354.JPG when renaming with clever names so I can find the original if needed: DSC_5354-rare-lightning-show++++.jpg An when I remember, I use ACD to rename the extension to lower case JPG jpg for web consistency. |
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paul wrote:
I use ACDsee for the drag & drop rearrangement into a slide show ... ThumbsPlus is good for moving into the reject folder but slow building thumbs. Irfanview is crap with thumbnails but super fast as my default file association to load & scroll thru a folder & display full screen and rename with the F7 key ... Frustrating, isn't it, to keep trial copies of these and IMatch and half a dozen others, all of which shine at one chore or another? Add the five or six image editing applications and the three or four video non-linear editors, a few sound editors, a Ken Burns applet, a few dozen plug-ins -- after a while you wish Bill Gates really had sucked everything into Windows Multimedia! |
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