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my take on Kodak downfall
On 2/10/2014 12:28 AM, Dale wrote:
having worked there consumer film was where the big money was too often consumer systems were developed and then a professional system was hacked out of it as opposed to developing professional systems and watering them down for consumer applications would have taken some quick work too keep up with the consumer demand, but Kodak was big enough to keep up with that I think then there is the general USA/UN/WTO issue of fair trade versus free trade allowing cheap imports from places with less consideration of workers and environmentalism, etc. but Kodak had plants in Mexico after NAFTA, so they should have been able to invest that consumer film money better I think this thread isn't from me ... -- Mystery - https://www.dalekelly.org/ |
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my take on Kodak downfall
On May 19, 2021, Dale wrote
(in article ): On 2/10/2014 12:28 AM, Dale wrote: having worked there anchient this thread isn't from me ... Then the mystery, as to why you chose to post this seven year old, obviously dead, cross posted screed to sci.engr.color, sci.image.processing, rec.photo.darkroom, rec.photo.digital, and comp.soft-sys.matlab remains. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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my take on Kodak downfall
On 19/05/2021 20:46, Savageduck wrote:
On May 19, 2021, Dale wrote (in article ): On 2/10/2014 12:28 AM, Dale wrote: having worked there anchient this thread isn't from me ... Then the mystery, as to why you chose to post this seven year old, obviously dead, cross posted screed to sci.engr.color, sci.image.processing, rec.photo.darkroom, rec.photo.digital, and comp.soft-sys.matlab remains. To promote his clickbait website perhaps? Kodak PCD digital scanning service was well ahead of the game at one point and Bryce Bayer one shot colour mask designer worked for Kodak. I recall the Kodak transition to digital cameras as an early adopter. I got a massively discounted DC-120 1Mpixel camera "remaindered" when they launched the confusingly named DC-210 a couple of months later. Kodak marketing department really knew how to shoot themselves in the foot with both barrels. Almost as bad as IBM with the PS/2 OS/2 debacle. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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my take on Kodak downfall
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RichA wrote: They believed just prior to that that cameras would be hybrids, film as the main imager with digital as a kind of preview or back-up. All in one camera. Never came to pass that I know of. the company is run by morons. kodak knew digital would replace film. they just were too stupid to realize how fast it would happen. after going bankrupt, they learned absolutely *nothing* and just a few years ago launched the most absurd product anyone could possibly have designed, a digital super-8 movie camera that sells for $2500, in an age where people carry a 4k video camera in their pocket that cost a fraction of that (and can do much more). https://www.kodak.com/en/motion/page/super-8-camera it uses super-8 film which people have to then send out for processing, totaling about $100 per roll, after which they get a link to about 2 minutes of video. meanwhile, everyone else is shooting unlimited 4k and 8k video without any hassles or any additional cost. those who want the 'super-8' look can add it via a filter, although most people prefer the *much* higher quality than super-8 could ever possibly do. it would have been a fantastic april fool's joke (it really is quite funny), but they actually want to sell this thing, they're that stupid. |
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my take on Kodak downfall
On 20/05/2021 10:33 pm, nospam wrote:
In article , RichA wrote: They believed just prior to that that cameras would be hybrids, film as the main imager with digital as a kind of preview or back-up. All in one camera. Never came to pass that I know of. the company is run by morons. kodak knew digital would replace film. they just were too stupid to realize how fast it would happen. after going bankrupt, they learned absolutely *nothing* and just a few years ago launched the most absurd product anyone could possibly have designed, a digital super-8 movie camera that sells for $2500, in an age where people carry a 4k video camera in their pocket that cost a fraction of that (and can do much more). https://www.kodak.com/en/motion/page/super-8-camera it uses super-8 film which people have to then send out for processing, totaling about $100 per roll, after which they get a link to about 2 minutes of video. meanwhile, everyone else is shooting unlimited 4k and 8k video without any hassles or any additional cost. those who want the 'super-8' look can add it via a filter, although most people prefer the *much* higher quality than super-8 could ever possibly do. it would have been a fantastic april fool's joke (it really is quite funny), but they actually want to sell this thing, they're that stupid. Surely that was intended as a joke (?). geoff |
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wrote: They believed just prior to that that cameras would be hybrids, film as the main imager with digital as a kind of preview or back-up. All in one camera. Never came to pass that I know of. the company is run by morons. kodak knew digital would replace film. they just were too stupid to realize how fast it would happen. after going bankrupt, they learned absolutely *nothing* and just a few years ago launched the most absurd product anyone could possibly have designed, a digital super-8 movie camera that sells for $2500, in an age where people carry a 4k video camera in their pocket that cost a fraction of that (and can do much more). https://www.kodak.com/en/motion/page/super-8-camera it uses super-8 film which people have to then send out for processing, totaling about $100 per roll, after which they get a link to about 2 minutes of video. meanwhile, everyone else is shooting unlimited 4k and 8k video without any hassles or any additional cost. those who want the 'super-8' look can add it via a filter, although most people prefer the *much* higher quality than super-8 could ever possibly do. it would have been a fantastic april fool's joke (it really is quite funny), but they actually want to sell this thing, they're that stupid. Surely that was intended as a joke (?). there is no indication that it is or was a joke, especially since it's been 5 years since it was first announced at ces, shown a few more times since then, with detailed product info still at kodak's site. it hasn't shipped, so maybe someone realized how incredibly stupid that would be, although with a link to sign up to be notified when it goes on sale, perhaps they're still stupid enough to go through with it. https://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...2/kodak-super- 8-camera-revival-price-2500-2018-release-date-update-film-footage Kodak first announced its revival of the classic Super 8 camera two years ago at CES 2016. The company didnıt have too many details on the Yves Béhar-designed project at this yearıs show, but it did have an updated price to sha around $2,500 to $3,000. Thatıs a pretty hefty price tag, because the company had originally planned to release a limited edition version in fall 2016 for between $400 and $750, with a less expensive model planned for sometime in 2017. |
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