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Old May 31st 07, 03:41 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
Radium[_2_]
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Default Variable Density is better that Variable Area

Hi:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ty&btnG=Search

Variable-Density is far better than variable-area. WTF did they even
develop variable-are?. VA stinks. VD is the best type of analog
optical film audio.

Hail to VD. Death to VA.

Also, let's make a ban on producing any magnetic film audio. Only
optical film audio.

Hail to optical tracks. Death to magnetic tracks.


Regards,

Radium

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Old May 31st 07, 05:10 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
Mr.T
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"Radium" wrote in message
oups.com...
Variable-Density is far better than variable-area. WTF did they even
develop variable-are?. VA stinks. VD is the best type of analog
optical film audio.


But is it as good as "Creative FM synth 220" that's the real question? :-)
:-) :-)

MrT.


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Old May 31st 07, 05:24 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
Radium[_2_]
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Default Variable Density is better that Variable Area

On May 30, 9:10 pm, "Mr.T" MrT@home wrote:
"Radium" wrote in message

oups.com...

Variable-Density is far better than variable-area. WTF did they even
develop variable-are?. VA stinks. VD is the best type of analog
optical film audio.


But is it as good as "Creative FM synth 220" that's the real question?


"Creative Music Synth" is a MIDI synth. It has nothing to do with the
topic of the thread. Yes CMS is my favorite synth but that irrelevant.
I am not talking about MIDI audio. Just regular audio. Please stay on
topic.


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Old May 31st 07, 05:35 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
Mr.T
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Default Variable Density is better that Variable Area


"Radium" wrote in message
ups.com...
Variable-Density is far better than variable-area. WTF did they even
develop variable-are?. VA stinks. VD is the best type of analog
optical film audio.

But is it as good as "Creative FM synth 220" that's the real question?
:-) :-) :-)

"Creative Music Synth" is a MIDI synth. It has nothing to do with the
topic of the thread. Yes CMS is my favorite synth but that irrelevant.
I am not talking about MIDI audio. Just regular audio. Please stay on
topic.


Yes we already know you are as humour impaired as you are technically
illiterate, but I thought three smileys might have given you a clue.
I guess not.

MrT.




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Old May 31st 07, 05:50 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
Ken Layton
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Default Variable Density is better that Variable Area

On May 30, 7:41 pm, Radium wrote:


Hail to optical tracks. Death to magnetic tracks.


Some films, like the Scopitones only exist with magnetic soundtracks.
They never made opticals.


Variable Density is good, but try to get a lab to print one nowadays.

VD is like FM radio.

VA is like AM radio.

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Old May 31st 07, 07:09 PM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
Steve Kraus
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Variable Density is good, but try to get a lab to print one nowadays.

VD is like FM radio.

VA is like AM radio.


Isn't VD inherently noisier because you're working right in the medium
densities that show film grain? In VA the black occludes grain and clear
doesn't have it but graininess would affect the edges of the tracks so I
don't know but it would seem like it would be better.
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Old May 31st 07, 07:29 PM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
J. Theakston
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Default Variable Density is better that Variable Area

On May 30, 10:41 pm, Radium wrote:
Hail to VD. Death to VA.


Yeah, I hope you get VD, too.

Have a nice day :-)

J. Theakston

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Old May 31st 07, 10:56 PM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
Richard Crowley
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Default Variable Density is better that Variable Area

"Steve Kraus" wrote ...
Variable Density is good, but try to get a lab to print one nowadays.

VD is like FM radio.

VA is like AM radio.


Isn't VD inherently noisier because you're working right in the medium
densities that show film grain? In VA the black occludes grain and clear
doesn't have it but graininess would affect the edges of the tracks so I
don't know but it would seem like it would be better.


One theory is that an occlusion (as from a spot of dust) is less
of the complete information across a slice of variable-density
than the equivalent on a slice of variable-area. OTOH, variable-
area are immune from dust on the dark portion, so more likely
a tossup.

I believe the picture (on the same film stock) requires much more
resolution than the audio is capable of.


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Old May 31st 07, 11:12 PM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
Mat Overton
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Default Variable Density is better that Variable Area

Variable-Density is far better than variable-area. WTF did they even
develop variable-are?. VA stinks. VD is the best type of analog
optical film audio.

Hail to VD. Death to VA.

Also, let's make a ban on producing any magnetic film audio. Only
optical film audio.

Hail to optical tracks. Death to magnetic tracks.

Except to seeing 2001 in 70mm and six track mag sound with added dolby noise
reduction (on a cinerama screen)......




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Old June 1st 07, 12:31 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
Alan Browne
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