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Atheist Chaplain wrote:
"BlackShadow" wrote in message ... Atheist Chaplain wrote: "BlackShadow" wrote in message ... zen wrote: "BlackShadow" wrote in message ... Do you know what one of the first things the Police do is? Explain all their carefully worked out top secret procedures to the first Joe who walks in off the street ? There is nothing top secret about it, and I am not just a "Joe off the street" I have a long established relationship with other areas of Policing that don't include this sort of thing. It gets me a degree of courteous acceptance. I have posted nothing that they haven't publicised themselves during the huge international joint AFP/FBI paedophile operation earlier this year. Some senior AFP (Australia Federal Police) were reprimanded for releasing investigative details prior to the completion of all the arrests but responded with: "If they know how easy it is for us to catch them it is less likely to happen." Sort of like road traffic red light cameras, if they weren't common knowledge more people would speed. BlackShadow nice troll BTW, one post and all these fish Oh and your full of ****, just thought you should know :-) Oh? I don't have a full of ****, so I'm not sure what you are referring to. Or did you mean "you're full of ****"? It ain't a troll, it is a response, and it has been looked at by relevant Police and is in the initial stages of being acted on. They spent several hours examining posts from both parties, feel that in all likelihood they are both just being idiots, but one, and they did not specify which one, makes them a little uneasy. Has some indicators that are often associated with true paedophiles. and now I know you're full of **** :-) but hey just keep bleating away to the uneducated masses, I'm sure most of them believe you Hahahahahaha! Do some Googling on the Taskforce Argos, check some of the Australian Newspaper archives. Argos is not reticent about making their presence or their methods public. Their attitude seems to be to get rid of paedophiles by any means necessary, if they can't arrest all of them, then scare them by letting them know how easy it is to track them and make them aware that they will eventually get caught. If no one buys child porn, there will be little point in creating child porn seems to be the reasoning. A roundabout way of trying to protect children. Every time they make some more well publicised arrests, they include a warning that if people keep using peer to peer or off shore websites (Russian mostly, they claim) they will eventually be arrested. Troll! and not only a troll but a grammar kop as well. No, not really but sometimes I like jerking people's chains. Must be a result of a misspent youth. Come to think of it, maybe it isn't all misspent, I seem to have some change left. Now, where to spend it? BlackShadow |
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On Sep 1, 7:05 pm, BlackShadow wrote: There is nothing top secret about it, and I am not just a "Joe off the street" I have a long established relationship with other areas of Policing that don't include this sort of thing. It gets me a degree of courteous acceptance. In that case you would know what a "secret level security clearance" for the ADF means? Then again, maybe not... Yes, it is nonsense. What has the ADF to do with either the AFP or any State Police Service? It is all over now in as far as my participation goes, they are not going to allow me any form of access to the progress they make or fail to make, so I expect that if anything eventually comes of it I will read about it like the rest of the world. The only two new bits of information I gleaned was regarding their immediate interest in one of the parties, (and they are not prepared to say which one) is simply because that person or someone using their computer facilities has already been flagged. Either someone else has made a complaint, as I did, or that person has been visiting sites or downloading from PTP servers that have Police attention. The second thing is that once someone is flagged, they check their credit card history to see whether they have ever paid for access to porn via a known financial conduit associated with child exploitation sites. They are happy to let people know this sort of thing, they have even mentioned it in news interviews. That is how they work, a weighting system, a person gets flagged for various reasons and when they have a several flags, they then consider that person worthy of more detailed scrutiny. Credit card checks are an initial part of that closer scrutiny. BlackShadow |
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"BlackShadow" wrote in message
... Atheist Chaplain wrote: "BlackShadow" wrote in message ... Atheist Chaplain wrote: "BlackShadow" wrote in message ... zen wrote: "BlackShadow" wrote in message ... Do you know what one of the first things the Police do is? Explain all their carefully worked out top secret procedures to the first Joe who walks in off the street ? There is nothing top secret about it, and I am not just a "Joe off the street" I have a long established relationship with other areas of Policing that don't include this sort of thing. It gets me a degree of courteous acceptance. I have posted nothing that they haven't publicised themselves during the huge international joint AFP/FBI paedophile operation earlier this year. Some senior AFP (Australia Federal Police) were reprimanded for releasing investigative details prior to the completion of all the arrests but responded with: "If they know how easy it is for us to catch them it is less likely to happen." Sort of like road traffic red light cameras, if they weren't common knowledge more people would speed. BlackShadow nice troll BTW, one post and all these fish Oh and your full of ****, just thought you should know :-) Oh? I don't have a full of ****, so I'm not sure what you are referring to. Or did you mean "you're full of ****"? It ain't a troll, it is a response, and it has been looked at by relevant Police and is in the initial stages of being acted on. They spent several hours examining posts from both parties, feel that in all likelihood they are both just being idiots, but one, and they did not specify which one, makes them a little uneasy. Has some indicators that are often associated with true paedophiles. and now I know you're full of **** :-) but hey just keep bleating away to the uneducated masses, I'm sure most of them believe you Hahahahahaha! Do some Googling on the Taskforce Argos, check some of the Australian Newspaper archives. Argos is not reticent about making their presence or their methods public. Their attitude seems to be to get rid of paedophiles by any means necessary, if they can't arrest all of them, then scare them by letting them know how easy it is to track them and make them aware that they will eventually get caught. If no one buys child porn, there will be little point in creating child porn seems to be the reasoning. A roundabout way of trying to protect children. Every time they make some more well publicised arrests, they include a warning that if people keep using peer to peer or off shore websites (Russian mostly, they claim) they will eventually be arrested. Troll! and not only a troll but a grammar kop as well. No, not really but sometimes I like jerking people's chains. Must be a result of a misspent youth. Come to think of it, maybe it isn't all misspent, I seem to have some change left. Now, where to spend it? BlackShadow do some googling one chain of evidence, unless your actually a police officer, working on the case, regardless of how "friendly" you are with the police, they will never do their research with a civilian standing over their shoulder and then discuss intimate details and suppositions about the case to you, especially if they know your going to go and blab it all over the news groups. now **** off and try and troll the dickheads over at alt.kooks -- "Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color." Don Hirschberg |
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"BlackShadow" wrote in message
... Noons wrote: On Sep 1, 7:05 pm, BlackShadow wrote: There is nothing top secret about it, and I am not just a "Joe off the street" I have a long established relationship with other areas of Policing that don't include this sort of thing. It gets me a degree of courteous acceptance. In that case you would know what a "secret level security clearance" for the ADF means? Then again, maybe not... Yes, it is nonsense. What has the ADF to do with either the AFP or any State Police Service? what it means oh dickhead of enormous size, is that Noons has been vetted up the kazoo by authorities with far better credentials than the average Johnny plod. and to maintain his clearance he will be regularly and randomly investigated, any hint of paedophilia would have his credentials pulled from under him so fast his feet would still be smoking. yet another reason why your so full of ****, the swarm of fly's around your head actually register on satellite images. -- "Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color." Don Hirschberg |
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"Noons" wrote in message ... On Sep 3, 4:33 pm, BlackShadow wrote: from PTP servers that have Police attention. 'scuse the ignorance but what on earth is a "PTP server"? I think he meant P2P (peer to peer) -- Kwyj. |
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Atheist Chaplain wrote:
"BlackShadow" wrote in message ... Noons wrote: On Sep 1, 7:05 pm, BlackShadow wrote: There is nothing top secret about it, and I am not just a "Joe off the street" I have a long established relationship with other areas of Policing that don't include this sort of thing. It gets me a degree of courteous acceptance. In that case you would know what a "secret level security clearance" for the ADF means? Then again, maybe not... Yes, it is nonsense. What has the ADF to do with either the AFP or any State Police Service? what it means oh dickhead of enormous size, I thought that only my wife know about that. Have you been been peeping through bedroom windows? is that Noons has been vetted up the kazoo by authorities with far better credentials than the average Johnny plod. Do I detect the faint aroma of performing socks? You seem to be familiar with an inordinate amount of personal detail related to another Usenet denizen - and remarkably defensive of him. and to maintain his clearance he will be regularly and randomly investigated, any hint of paedophilia would have his credentials pulled from under him so fast his feet would still be smoking. If that was so, yes, but those hints are often hidden as is evidenced by the extraordinarily high numbers of officials/MPs and even judges who are also vetted. Nothing is discovered until they make a slip-up in another area. If he does have a level of security clearance it has little meaning, secretaries in public service have such clearance. ASIO is the organisation that was used to vet me, back when such things had import. That ended in the early eighties when I moved from a military to private sector existence. I was not anyone of great note, just had the usual clearance associated with rank and area of endeavor. I imagine that little has changed in the interim. ASIO was alway good for comedic relief but not much else. yet another reason why your so full of ****, the swarm of fly's around your head actually register on satellite images. You thought that up all by yourself? How mature and erudite. You are beginning to sound like Noons. That aroma is getting stronger. BTW, I was told that one of them had piqued interest, but not told which one. Maybe it wasn't Noons, or maybe if he *did* have some degree of clearance, that is what interested them. The appalling and immature standard of public behaviour of someone who should know better. BlackShadow |
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Annika1980 wrote:
Now I can't wait to hear your reply about my massive porn collection, my millions lost in online gambling and how I robbed the local liquor store. Cash or whiskey? |
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Noons wrote:
On Sep 5, 7:55 am, BlackShadow wrote: Do I detect the faint aroma of performing socks? You seem to be familiar with an inordinate amount of personal detail related to another Usenet denizen - and remarkably defensive of him. Actually, that shows perfectly well you got NO CLUE what you talking about. The Chaplain and I have had quite a few disagreements. Last thing in his mind is socks. But let's not let simple facts get in the way of a good old fashioned, false insinuation and troll, shall we? ASIO is the organisation that was used to vet me, back when such things had import. Who do you think installed the first Oracle database at ASIO? Hint: it was installed in a Compaq 386 "luggable" and it was version 4.1.4 for DOS. In 1987. I know little about ASIO other than the obvious gleaned from a clumsy and inefficient vetting system observed by people who they "security vetted". I was stationed in Canberra through the latter part of the seventies until the early eighties and I heard of lot of gossip and jokes, but little of real substance. A Compaq 386 Luggable sounds a little like one of those jokes. All Oracle databases of that era that I was associated with were on VAX systems running Unix. You installed a database for ASIO on a 386 dos based system? It must have had impressive capacity and speed. What did they use it for? To keep track of their lunch orders? What you are claiming can only reinforce ASIO's status as a cause for mirth. You worked for Prime? I seem to recall that they had the contract for ASIO and Immigration. No, you couldn't have worked for them, they wouldn't try to use a 386 portable as an Oracle server. little has changed in the interim. ASIO was alway good for comedic relief but not much else. I'm glad you have such a great opinion of them. Oh, I do, and I am glad you're glad. It thrills me to bring you a little happiness. You thought that up all by yourself? How mature and erudite. You are beginning to sound like Noons. That aroma is getting stronger. Gawd, another kook... Kooks object to poor grammar, bad language and an abusive manner? Well, what do you know - I must be a kook. BTW, I was told that one of them had piqued interest, but not told which one. Maybe it wasn't Noons, or maybe if he *did* have some degree of clearance, that is what interested them. The appalling and immature standard of public behaviour of someone who should know better. Who cares who "piqued interest"? We all know it was Bret, due to some of the photos he has in his site and his past record of trolling the pedophile sites. So what? I don't know, they gave no indication but I suspect for reasons that I will keep confidential that you are correct. And you are the one who "knows better"? Knows better than who? Do you have ANY clue how many morons with your sort of self-righteous attitude I've met and left by the wayside in DECADES of online life? None? Did I get it right? Moron... Wasted enough time with you plonk Plonk? Doesn't that usually mean I win? Is there some sort of prize? BlackShadow |
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"BlackShadow" wrote in message
... Atheist Chaplain wrote: "BlackShadow" wrote in message ... Noons wrote: On Sep 1, 7:05 pm, BlackShadow wrote: There is nothing top secret about it, and I am not just a "Joe off the street" I have a long established relationship with other areas of Policing that don't include this sort of thing. It gets me a degree of courteous acceptance. In that case you would know what a "secret level security clearance" for the ADF means? Then again, maybe not... Yes, it is nonsense. What has the ADF to do with either the AFP or any State Police Service? what it means oh dickhead of enormous size, I thought that only my wife know about that. Have you been been peeping through bedroom windows? is that Noons has been vetted up the kazoo by authorities with far better credentials than the average Johnny plod. Do I detect the faint aroma of performing socks? you seem to be completely lost here. maybe a quick search trough the archives will enlighten you, I have, on many many occasions called noons all maner of names and disagreed mist verciferously with him on an variety of subjects, but this being usenet, it is OK to call someone a sea hunt in one post and then remmenis over seperate similar expiriences in another, that is how I come to know a bit about Noons ADF quals, as I had similar quals when I was in the Army You seem to be familiar with an inordinate amount of personal detail related to another Usenet denizen - and remarkably defensive of him. No, not defensive of him, or brett for that matter, but when I see an obvious trool, I call it :-) and to maintain his clearance he will be regularly and randomly investigated, any hint of paedophilia would have his credentials pulled from under him so fast his feet would still be smoking. If that was so, yes, but those hints are often hidden as is evidenced by the extraordinarily high numbers of officials/MPs and even judges who are also vetted. Nothing is discovered until they make a slip-up in another area. Keep thinking that :-) If he does have a level of security clearance it has little meaning, secretaries in public service have such clearance. true to a very small degree....... ASIO is the organisation that was used to vet me, back when such things had import. That ended in the early eighties when I moved from a military to private sector existence. I was not anyone of great note, just had the usual clearance associated with rank and area of endeavor. I imagine that little has changed in the interim. ASIO was alway good for comedic relief but not much else. Well for a start ASIO hasnt done an ADF vett for decades yet another reason why your so full of ****, the swarm of fly's around your head actually register on satellite images. You thought that up all by yourself? How mature and erudite. You are beginning to sound like Noons. That aroma is getting stronger. How clueless of you, yet again, can you detect a common thread in your thinking process here??? BTW, I was told that one of them had piqued interest, but not told which one. Maybe it wasn't Noons, or maybe if he *did* have some degree of clearance, that is what interested them. The appalling and immature standard of public behaviour of someone who should know better. BlackShadow And again I call bull****, you would have filed a report, the nice officer at the desk may have organised a statement to be taken, then you would have been thanked and shown the door, the officer would have then filed the report and the station Superintendant would have eventualy decided if it merited further investigation, if it did, it would have landed on someones desk in a time frame measured in hours, if not days. you would not be present during any of this. end of story. And if they did do as you say, now that you have blabbed this all over Usenet, either of the accused could have this thrown out of any court in their relative countrys, the officers you made your initial complaint to would be looking at a career wrecking internal investigation, if not career ending. and then Noons and Brett could have their briefs hunt you down and litigate you out of existence. :-) do you see where your bull**** is heading?? -- "Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color." Don Hirschberg |
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"Noons" wrote in message
... On Sep 5, 11:28 am, "Atheist Chaplain" wrote: subjects, but this being usenet, it is OK to call someone a sea hunt in one post and then remmenis over seperate similar expiriences in another, that is And I'll gladly join you on a poison of your choice over that! But let's not dwell too much on this: it might make this fella's head explode... ================================================== ======== Ditto, as long as you don't want to meet me in the park so you can punch my head in ;-) I only wish I wasn't in such a hurry when I wrote it as my spelling was atrocious :-) my only excuse is they are all deliberate mistakes so he can play spelling kop again walks away whistling and looking skyward -- God made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom? |
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