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Old June 1st 07, 12:37 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
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"Alan Browne" wrote in message
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Radium wrote:

PLONK (for X-posting)


Plonks should be categorized....Like a category one plonk is a content
plonk, and a category two plonk should be a wording plonk. (dirty language
and the like) And, a category three plonk a method plonk. (like cross
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Old June 1st 07, 12:52 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
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"William Graham" wrote ...
"Alan Browne" wrote ...
Radium wrote:

PLONK (for X-posting)


Plonks should be categorized....Like a category one plonk is a content
plonk, and a category two plonk should be a wording plonk. (dirty language
and the like) And, a category three plonk a method plonk. (like cross
posting)


I think "Radium" qualifies as his own category.
The only remarkable thing these days is that anybody is still reading
his/her/its effluvia.


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Old June 1st 07, 02:22 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound rec.audio.opinion rec.audio.tech rec.photo.equipment.35mm rec.arts.movies.tech
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On 2007-05-30 19:41:07 -0700, Radium said:

Hail to VD. Death to VA.


1) VD OTN stock and processing is nearly impossible to obtain, today.

2) VA OTN stock and processing has been the de-facto standard for the
past three decades. VD is dead, dead, dead. Get used to it.


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Old June 1st 07, 02:37 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
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On May 31, 6:22 pm, peterh5322
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1) VD OTN stock and processing is nearly impossible to obtain, today.


How much do I have to pay, if I want it?

2) VA OTN stock and processing has been the de-facto standard for the
past three decades. VD is dead, dead, dead. Get used to it.


What are the logical reasons for such? My guess is politics and money.
VD maybe older technology but it still kicks VA's @$$. Much in the
same way Creative Music Synth [old SB16 FM synth] is better than M$ GS
Wavetable SW Synth. Newer doesn't necessarily mean more advantageous.

Some @$$holes decided it's a good idea to make VA technology, and then
the whole world [being gullible as the world is] fell for that crap.
As a result, the golden VD technology was left behind.

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Old June 1st 07, 04:59 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
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On May 31, 11:09 am, Steve Kraus
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Variable Density is good, but try to get a lab to print one nowadays.


VD is like FM radio.


VA is like AM radio.


Isn't VD inherently noisier because you're working right in the medium
densities that show film grain? In VA the black occludes grain and clear
doesn't have it but graininess would affect the edges of the tracks so I
don't know but it would seem like it would be better.


The noise in VD is a mouth-watering, delicious, paradisiacal crackling
[due to tiny black spots on the film] similar the baking of garlic
bread in a clay oven full of hot bituminous coals.

The noise in VA is a hellish stink of stinky, thick, foamy, tickly,
itchy, hissy, terrifying, disgusting, and annoying fart of a human who
eats stale, fat-free cheddar cheese, sticky milk chocolate, rotten
lentils, and decaying cauliflower.

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Old June 1st 07, 05:02 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
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On May 31, 3:12 pm, "Mat Overton"
wrote:
Variable-Density is far better than variable-area. WTF did they even
develop variable-are?. VA stinks. VD is the best type of analog
optical film audio.


Hail to VD. Death to VA.


Also, let's make a ban on producing any magnetic film audio. Only
optical film audio.


Hail to optical tracks. Death to magnetic tracks.


Except to seeing 2001 in 70mm and six track mag sound with added dolby noise
reduction (on a cinerama screen)......




Still...

The audio in an optical track is a mouth-watering, delicious,
paradisiacal crackling [due to tiny black spots on the film] similar
the baking of garlic bread in a clay oven full of hot bituminous
coals.

The fart of a magnetic track is a hellish stink of stinky, thick,
foamy, tickly, itchy, hissy, terrifying, disgusting, and annoying
human kakaa-gas of a human who eats stale, fat-free cheddar cheese,
sticky milk chocolate, rotten lentils, and decaying cauliflower.

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Old June 1st 07, 05:26 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
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"Radium" wrote in message
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[...]

The noise in VD is a mouth-watering, delicious, paradisiacal crackling
[due to tiny black spots on the film] similar the baking of garlic
bread in a clay oven full of hot bituminous coals.

The noise in VA is a hellish stink of stinky, thick, foamy, tickly,
itchy, hissy, terrifying, disgusting, and annoying fart of a human who
eats stale, fat-free cheddar cheese, sticky milk chocolate, rotten
lentils, and decaying cauliflower.


Can you say synesthesia?


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Old June 1st 07, 08:22 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
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"Radium" wrote in message
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On May 31, 11:09 am, Steve Kraus
wrote:
Variable Density is good, but try to get a lab to print one nowadays.


VD is like FM radio.


VA is like AM radio.


Isn't VD inherently noisier because you're working right in the medium
densities that show film grain? In VA the black occludes grain and clear
doesn't have it but graininess would affect the edges of the tracks so I
don't know but it would seem like it would be better.


The noise in VD is a mouth-watering, delicious, paradisiacal crackling
[due to tiny black spots on the film] similar the baking of garlic
bread in a clay oven full of hot bituminous coals.

The noise in VA is a hellish stink of stinky, thick, foamy, tickly,
itchy, hissy, terrifying, disgusting, and annoying fart of a human who
eats stale, fat-free cheddar cheese, sticky milk chocolate, rotten
lentils, and decaying cauliflower.


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Old June 1st 07, 08:52 AM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
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"Radium" wrote in message
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What are the logical reasons for such? My guess is politics and money.
VD maybe older technology but it still kicks VA's @$$. Much in the
same way Creative Music Synth [old SB16 FM synth] is better than M$ GS
Wavetable SW Synth.


Yes very similar, all four are obsolete technology not worth arguing about.
Is dog **** better than horse ****? Does anyone besides you really care?

MrT.


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Old June 1st 07, 03:27 PM posted to rec.arts.movies.production.sound,rec.audio.opinion,rec.audio.tech,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.arts.movies.tech
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Mr.T MrT@home wrote:

"Radium" wrote in message
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What are the logical reasons for such? My guess is politics and money.
VD maybe older technology but it still kicks VA's @$$. Much in the
same way Creative Music Synth [old SB16 FM synth] is better than M$ GS
Wavetable SW Synth.


Yes very similar, all four are obsolete technology not worth arguing about.
Is dog **** better than horse ****? Does anyone besides you really care?


Obsolete? The entire motion-picture industry would disagree.

Modern VA optical tracks can actually sound really good with LED
readers and Dolby SR (real SR, not the crappy cat. 222 "SR"/A).

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