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First P&S that may "may" not be a piece of crap?



 
 
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Old July 23rd 08, 11:18 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
ray
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Default First P&S that may "may" not be a piece of crap?

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:30:15 -0700, Rich wrote:

Sick of the idiocy of the ultrazoom, itty-bitty sensored junk that they
sell as P&S's today? Maybe this one will be different. An f2 lens!
Shades of 2001 and the Olympus C-3040!! A conservative zoom range and a
larger sensor.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08...clx3.asp#specs


IMHO - this post is B.S. I have a Kodak P850 - a P&S with long zoom which
I do not consider "a piece of crap". I do quite well with it thank you.
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Old July 24th 08, 01:46 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Ron Hunter
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Default First P&S that may "may" not be a piece of crap?

ray wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:30:15 -0700, Rich wrote:

Sick of the idiocy of the ultrazoom, itty-bitty sensored junk that they
sell as P&S's today? Maybe this one will be different. An f2 lens!
Shades of 2001 and the Olympus C-3040!! A conservative zoom range and a
larger sensor.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08...clx3.asp#specs


IMHO - this post is B.S. I have a Kodak P850 - a P&S with long zoom which
I do not consider "a piece of crap". I do quite well with it thank you.


See my previous post. Grin.
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Old July 24th 08, 04:17 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
ray
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Default First P&S that may "may" not be a piece of crap?

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:05:56 -0700, Rich wrote:

On Jul 23, 7:49Â*pm, ransley wrote:
On Jul 23, 5:18Â*pm, ray wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:30:15 -0700, Rich wrote:
Sick of the idiocy of the ultrazoom, itty-bitty sensored junk that
they sell as P&S's today? Â*Maybe this one will be different. Â*An f2
lens! Shades of 2001 and the Olympus C-3040!! Â*A conservative zoom
range and a larger sensor.


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08...clx3.asp#specs


IMHO - this post is B.S. I have a Kodak P850 - a P&S with long zoom
which I do not consider "a piece of crap". I do quite well with it
thank you.


And knowing Panasonics noise leading


Noise leading because they don't heap on the NR at 100 ISO like nearly
every other camera that doesn't do raw, I frigging HATE that in P&Ss, it
renders their images completely useless.


I generally shoot RAW with my P850.
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Old July 24th 08, 09:13 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default First P&S that may "may" not be a piece of crap?


"Rich" wrote in message
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On Jul 23, 7:49 pm, ransley wrote:
On Jul 23, 5:18 pm, ray wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:30:15 -0700, Rich wrote:
Sick of the idiocy of the ultrazoom, itty-bitty sensored junk that
they
sell as P&S's today? Maybe this one will be different. An f2 lens!
Shades of 2001 and the Olympus C-3040!! A conservative zoom range and
a
larger sensor.


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08...clx3.asp#specs


IMHO - this post is B.S. I have a Kodak P850 - a P&S with long zoom
which
I do not consider "a piece of crap". I do quite well with it thank you.


And knowing Panasonics noise leading


Noise leading because they don't heap on the NR at 100 ISO like nearly
every other camera that doesn't do raw, I frigging HATE that in P&Ss,
it renders their images completely useless.


While the noise level in my Canon A720 is a bit higher than I'd like, I
wouldn't go so far as to say the images are completely useless.

I've done some fairly severe cropping on the images of this 8meg sensor and
produced 11 X 14 pics that rival or surpass shots taken with my old Canon A2
using fine grain films.

To me, that's quite nice, not useless...

Take Care,
Dudley


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Old July 24th 08, 10:54 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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ransley wrote in
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And knowing Panasonics noise leading slow as molases sensors I would
not wait in line for this one. But this guy just doesnt know how to
use a camera to get its full potential.


Panasonic has the most efficient sensor tech, possibly. I have not found a
single camera sensor that collects more photons per unit of area with the
same exposure as my FZ50. Their JPEG noise reduction, however, is
horrible, and does more harm than good in many cases.



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Old July 24th 08, 10:56 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
John Sheehy
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Rich wrote in
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On Jul 23, 7:49*pm, ransley wrote:


And knowing Panasonics noise leading


Noise leading because they don't heap on the NR at 100 ISO like nearly
every other camera that doesn't do raw, I frigging HATE that in P&Ss,
it renders their images completely useless.


I don't think it's a case of not a lot of NR; it's a case of a *lot* of
poor NR, which doesn't do what it is intended to do.



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Old July 25th 08, 05:28 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
John Turco
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Default First P&S that may "may" not be a piece of crap?

ray wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:30:15 -0700, Rich wrote:

Sick of the idiocy of the ultrazoom, itty-bitty sensored junk that they
sell as P&S's today? Maybe this one will be different. An f2 lens!
Shades of 2001 and the Olympus C-3040!! A conservative zoom range and a
larger sensor.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08...clx3.asp#specs


IMHO - this post is B.S. I have a Kodak P850 - a P&S with long zoom which
I do not consider "a piece of crap". I do quite well with it thank you.



Hello, Ray:

As a fellow P850 owner, I echo your praise of this fine device.

Regarding "Rich," please be advised that he's merely a lousy, Canadian
troll. He enjoys sniping at P&S digicams, Kodak, China and whatever else
may happen to pop into his narrow "mind," at any given moment.


Cordially,
John Turco
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Old July 25th 08, 07:01 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default First P&S that may "may" not be a piece of crap?

John Turco wrote:
ray wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:30:15 -0700, Rich wrote:

Sick of the idiocy of the ultrazoom, itty-bitty sensored junk that they
sell as P&S's today? Maybe this one will be different. An f2 lens!
Shades of 2001 and the Olympus C-3040!! A conservative zoom range and a
larger sensor.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08...clx3.asp#specs

IMHO - this post is B.S. I have a Kodak P850 - a P&S with long zoom which
I do not consider "a piece of crap". I do quite well with it thank you.



Hello, Ray:

As a fellow P850 owner, I echo your praise of this fine device.

Regarding "Rich," please be advised that he's merely a lousy, Canadian
troll. He enjoys sniping at P&S digicams, Kodak, China and whatever else
may happen to pop into his narrow "mind," at any given moment.


Cordially,
John Turco


Well, I'd add Canon is a prime, or perhaps primary target, and has
nothing to do with being Canadian or not! :-).


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Old July 27th 08, 08:58 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default First P&S that may "may" not be a piece of crap?


"John Turco" wrote in message
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ray wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:30:15 -0700, Rich wrote:

Sick of the idiocy of the ultrazoom, itty-bitty sensored junk that they
sell as P&S's today? Maybe this one will be different. An f2 lens!
Shades of 2001 and the Olympus C-3040!! A conservative zoom range and
a
larger sensor.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08...clx3.asp#specs


IMHO - this post is B.S. I have a Kodak P850 - a P&S with long zoom which
I do not consider "a piece of crap". I do quite well with it thank you.



Hello, Ray:

As a fellow P850 owner, I echo your praise of this fine device.

Regarding "Rich," please be advised that he's merely a lousy, Canadian
troll. He enjoys sniping at P&S digicams, Kodak, China and whatever else
may happen to pop into his narrow "mind," at any given moment.


Cordially,
John Turco


Good for you John, you are cordially invited to show some of your great
results!

I await your many posts to come from this wonderful camera.

Regards.

Pete

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Old July 27th 08, 03:18 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:58:46 +1000, "PeteD" wrote:


"John Turco" wrote in message
...
ray wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:30:15 -0700, Rich wrote:

Sick of the idiocy of the ultrazoom, itty-bitty sensored junk that they
sell as P&S's today? Maybe this one will be different. An f2 lens!
Shades of 2001 and the Olympus C-3040!! A conservative zoom range and
a
larger sensor.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08...clx3.asp#specs

IMHO - this post is B.S. I have a Kodak P850 - a P&S with long zoom which
I do not consider "a piece of crap". I do quite well with it thank you.



Hello, Ray:

As a fellow P850 owner, I echo your praise of this fine device.

Regarding "Rich," please be advised that he's merely a lousy, Canadian
troll. He enjoys sniping at P&S digicams, Kodak, China and whatever else
may happen to pop into his narrow "mind," at any given moment.


Cordially,
John Turco


Good for you John, you are cordially invited to show some of your great
results!

I await your many posts to come from this wonderful camera.

Regards.

Pete


You, like all the other resident-trolls in this newsgroup, have obviously
mistaken yourself for someone that deserves to have their life enriched for
free.

 




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