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Feasability of repairing dead 1394 connector on Sony Dig8 camcorder?
Have a Sony Digital8 and it appears the 1394 port has died. I have a 6
foot and 10 foot firewire cables. Never had a problem with the 6-foot cable but the connection on the 10-foot has always been iffy - if it got jostled the right way I lost the connection to the computer. However because of where I needed the cam to be, the 6-foot connection wasn't long enough. Upon close inspection of the ends on both, the height of the contacts didn't seem exactly the same. So I did a little light squeezing of the 10-foot cable's end with needlenose pliers to adjust it a hair. Plugged it into the 1394 port and got nothing no matter what. Then when plugging in the previously dependable 6-foot cable, got nothing from that either. Tried wiggling both at various angles to see if I could establish any connection, get nothing on 2 different computers. So, obviously something's wrong. 1) Any suggestions for remedies I might try on a DIY basis? An chance it could be a mechanical physical contact issue and not an internal fried chip/circuit issue? 2) Any idea what cost for such a repair would likely run? The problem is, without a 1394 connection, the cam is kinda pointless. Yes, it has analog out which works but the whole point of the Digital Cam is to be able to create DV files. 3) Are the 1394 connectors generally fragile or are there brands with ports that are more robust than others? What do you think I might have done to cause this or was it possibly just a coincidence? I didn't poke around the port on the cam at all, just tweaked the end of the one cable a small amount. Thanks for all input. |
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Feasability of repairing dead 1394 connector on Sony Dig8 camcorder?
Doc wrote:
Have a Sony Digital8 and it appears the 1394 port has died. I have a 6 foot and 10 foot firewire cables. Never had a problem with the 6-foot cable but the connection on the 10-foot has always been iffy - if it got jostled the right way I lost the connection to the computer. However because of where I needed the cam to be, the 6-foot connection wasn't long enough. Upon close inspection of the ends on both, the height of the contacts didn't seem exactly the same. So I did a little light squeezing of the 10-foot cable's end with needlenose pliers to adjust it a hair. Plugged it into the 1394 port and got nothing no matter what. Then when plugging in the previously dependable 6-foot cable, got nothing from that either. Tried wiggling both at various angles to see if I could establish any connection, get nothing on 2 different computers. So, obviously something's wrong. 1) Any suggestions for remedies I might try on a DIY basis? An chance it could be a mechanical physical contact issue and not an internal fried chip/circuit issue? 2) Any idea what cost for such a repair would likely run? The problem is, without a 1394 connection, the cam is kinda pointless. Yes, it has analog out which works but the whole point of the Digital Cam is to be able to create DV files. 3) Are the 1394 connectors generally fragile or are there brands with ports that are more robust than others? What do you think I might have done to cause this or was it possibly just a coincidence? I didn't poke around the port on the cam at all, just tweaked the end of the one cable a small amount. Thanks for all input. If you connected a 6 pin cable to the camera or PC port while the camera is on their is a risk of blowing the IEEE port on the camera. The 6 pin plug runs an active power lead and any mis-alignment might get the volts onto the wrong pin and poooooffffff! Sony charges like a roaring bull to replace a card. Alternatively it might still be just the cable. Borrow a known good one and try it. |
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Feasability of repairing dead 1394 connector on Sony Dig8 camcorder?
On 11/30/2006, Robert posted this:
Doc wrote: Have a Sony Digital8 and it appears the 1394 port has died. I have a 6 foot and 10 foot firewire cables. Never had a problem with the 6-foot cable but the connection on the 10-foot has always been iffy - if it got jostled the right way I lost the connection to the computer. However because of where I needed the cam to be, the 6-foot connection wasn't long enough. Upon close inspection of the ends on both, the height of the contacts didn't seem exactly the same. So I did a little light squeezing of the 10-foot cable's end with needlenose pliers to adjust it a hair. Plugged it into the 1394 port and got nothing no matter what. Then when plugging in the previously dependable 6-foot cable, got nothing from that either. Tried wiggling both at various angles to see if I could establish any connection, get nothing on 2 different computers. So, obviously something's wrong. 1) Any suggestions for remedies I might try on a DIY basis? An chance it could be a mechanical physical contact issue and not an internal fried chip/circuit issue? 2) Any idea what cost for such a repair would likely run? The problem is, without a 1394 connection, the cam is kinda pointless. Yes, it has analog out which works but the whole point of the Digital Cam is to be able to create DV files. 3) Are the 1394 connectors generally fragile or are there brands with ports that are more robust than others? What do you think I might have done to cause this or was it possibly just a coincidence? I didn't poke around the port on the cam at all, just tweaked the end of the one cable a small amount. Thanks for all input. If you connected a 6 pin cable to the camera or PC port while the camera is on their is a risk of blowing the IEEE port on the camera. The 6 pin plug runs an active power lead and any mis-alignment might get the volts onto the wrong pin and poooooffffff! Sony charges like a roaring bull to replace a card. Alternatively it might still be just the cable. Borrow a known good one and try it. Usually the camera end is 4-pin, and there should never be any power there, absent an internal short at the 6-pin end - which might not even have 6 pins in the shell, for all I know. OK, just looked at one - it does have six pins at the big end. FWIW, the RS-232 spec explicitly states that the interface electronics will be immune to any short-circuit or misconnection of the pins. I have no idea if USB and FireWire have such a provision, but it *would* be nice. -- Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251 (replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") |
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Feasability of repairing dead 1394 connector on Sony Dig8 camcorder?
Doc wrote:
Have a Sony Digital8 and it appears the 1394 port has died. I have a 6 foot and 10 foot firewire cables. Never had a problem with the 6-foot cable but the connection on the 10-foot has always been iffy - if it got jostled the right way I lost the connection to the computer. However because of where I needed the cam to be, the 6-foot connection wasn't long enough. Upon close inspection of the ends on both, the height of the contacts didn't seem exactly the same. So I did a little light squeezing of the 10-foot cable's end with needlenose pliers to adjust it a hair. Plugged it into the 1394 port and got nothing no matter what. Then when plugging in the previously dependable 6-foot cable, got nothing from that either. Tried wiggling both at various angles to see if I could establish any connection, get nothing on 2 different computers. So, obviously something's wrong. 1) Any suggestions for remedies I might try on a DIY basis? An chance it could be a mechanical physical contact issue and not an internal fried chip/circuit issue? 2) Any idea what cost for such a repair would likely run? The problem is, without a 1394 connection, the cam is kinda pointless. Yes, it has analog out which works but the whole point of the Digital Cam is to be able to create DV files. 3) Are the 1394 connectors generally fragile or are there brands with ports that are more robust than others? What do you think I might have done to cause this or was it possibly just a coincidence? I didn't poke around the port on the cam at all, just tweaked the end of the one cable a small amount. Thanks for all input. If you squeezed the cable a wee bit too hard and closed up one of the female connector pins a trifle too far, inserting the plug may have driven the corresponding pin in the socket backwards far enough to not make contact. If so, you may be able to get to the back of the socket and push the pin forward again, but it will be loosened and may never stay in place. In that case, a new socket would seem to be required. Colin D. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Feasability of repairing dead 1394 connector on Sony Dig8 camcorder?
"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message ... FWIW, the RS-232 spec explicitly states that the interface electronics will be immune to any short-circuit or misconnection of the pins. I have no idea if USB and FireWire have such a provision, but it *would* be nice. Can you advise what RS-232 is? What relation does this have to Firewire? |
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Feasability of repairing dead 1394 connector on Sony Dig8 camcorder?
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Feasability of repairing dead 1394 connector on Sony Dig8 camcorder?
Doc wrote:
"Gene E. Bloch" wrote FWIW, the RS-232 spec explicitly states that [...] Can you advise what RS-232 is? What relation does this have to Firewire? Now I'm feeling old... -- znark |
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Feasability of repairing dead 1394 connector on Sony Dig8camcorder?
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:36:28 +0000, Doc wrote:
"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message ... FWIW, the RS-232 spec explicitly states that the interface electronics will be immune to any short-circuit or misconnection of the pins. I have no idea if USB and FireWire have such a provision, but it *would* be nice. Can you advise what RS-232 is? What relation does this have to Firewire? The standard serial interface, used for modems, printers, mice, and all sorts of other things before USB came along. Has some advantages over USB, like it works fine from one end of a building to the other and you can easily make your own cables, but isn't designed to support hubs with multiple attachments and is relatively slow, especially compared to USB2 Hi-speed. -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Feasability of repairing dead 1394 connector on Sony Dig8 camcorder?
We lost the Firewire port on two different Canon camcorders, and
discussed this with a guy at our best photo store in the area. He claims on the Canon and many other camcorders the 1394 interface is on a daughterboard, and the wires connecting it to the main board are very fragile. We are not sure if this is the problem or not- the day before we noticed the lack of 1394, we had left the cameras in a very hot car trunk for an extended period of time. He claimed repair on the cheaper Canon would likely be around 200 bucks- the more expensive one (GL2) would be more. Our solution was to buy a 250 buck camcorder to act as a Firewire deck, plus it is another backup camera. We'll take great pains with this one to protect it from both shock and heat. BTW, we also lost the Firewire connection on the motherboard of our main video editing computer. As far as I am concerned, Firewire does not seem to be very robust as far as hardware is concerned :-( Doc wrote: Have a Sony Digital8 and it appears the 1394 port has died. I have a 6 foot and 10 foot firewire cables. Never had a problem with the 6-foot cable but the connection on the 10-foot has always been iffy - if it got jostled the right way I lost the connection to the computer. However because of where I needed the cam to be, the 6-foot connection wasn't long enough. Upon close inspection of the ends on both, the height of the contacts didn't seem exactly the same. So I did a little light squeezing of the 10-foot cable's end with needlenose pliers to adjust it a hair. Plugged it into the 1394 port and got nothing no matter what. Then when plugging in the previously dependable 6-foot cable, got nothing from that either. Tried wiggling both at various angles to see if I could establish any connection, get nothing on 2 different computers. So, obviously something's wrong. 1) Any suggestions for remedies I might try on a DIY basis? An chance it could be a mechanical physical contact issue and not an internal fried chip/circuit issue? 2) Any idea what cost for such a repair would likely run? The problem is, without a 1394 connection, the cam is kinda pointless. Yes, it has analog out which works but the whole point of the Digital Cam is to be able to create DV files. 3) Are the 1394 connectors generally fragile or are there brands with ports that are more robust than others? What do you think I might have done to cause this or was it possibly just a coincidence? I didn't poke around the port on the cam at all, just tweaked the end of the one cable a small amount. Thanks for all input. |
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Feasability of repairing dead 1394 connector on Sony Dig8 camcorder?
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 12:40:53 +0200, in 'rec.video.desktop',
in article Feasability of repairing dead 1394 connector on Sony Dig8 camcorder?, "Jukka Aho" wrote: Doc wrote: "Gene E. Bloch" wrote FWIW, the RS-232 spec explicitly states that [...] Can you advise what RS-232 is? What relation does this have to Firewire? Now I'm feeling old... LOL. Me, too. -- Frank, Independent Consultant, New York, NY [Please remove 'nojunkmail.' from address to reply via e-mail.] Read Frank's thoughts on HDV at http://www.humanvalues.net/hdv/ |
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