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Global Warming and what you can do to against it
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:15:24 -0800 (PST), ".."
wrote: Dear All, As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the planet. ---- snip ---- Lets go back to the beginning. Is it actually occurring? See http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...arts-here.html Eric Stevens |
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Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:15:24 -0800 (PST), ".." wrote: Dear All, As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the planet. Lets go back to the beginning. Is it actually occurring? Yes. Only fools and idiots mistake long-term trends for localized short term effects. -- Ray Fischer |
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As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the planet. Actually no, global warming isn't endangering life at all. Life will happily survive as it did many, many even more catastrophic changes in the past hundreds of millions of years. jue |
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Eric Stevens wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:15:24 -0800 (PST), ".." wrote: Dear All, As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the planet. Lets go back to the beginning. Is it actually occurring? Yes. See http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...arts-here.html This guy is either a paid shill for the oil industry or a confused fool. He claims: According to the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado, Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007 - and even the most committed global warming activists do not dispute this. What's the truth? Published in Geophysical Research Letters, the results of research conducted at University College London found that: Some places Experienced 49cm of Ice Thickness Loss Last winter the average thickness of sea ice over the whole Arctic fell by 26 cm (10%) compared with the average thickness of the previous five winters, but sea ice in the western Arctic lost around 49 cm of thickness. Difficult to Measure Changes Across Whole Arctic In describing the challenges faced in their research, Dr Katherine Giles said, As the Arctic ice pack is constantly moving, conventional methods can only provide sparse and intermittent measurements of ice thickness from which it is difficult to tell whether the changes are local or across the whole Arctic. Satellites provide the only means to determine trends and a consistent and wide area basis. Envisat altimeter data have provided the critical third dimension to the satellite images which have already revealed a dramatic decrease in the area of ice covered in the Arctic. -- Ray Fischer |
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"Ray Fischer" wrote: Eric Stevens wrote: Lets go back to the beginning. Is it actually occurring? See http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...arts-here.html This guy is either a paid shill for the oil industry or a confused fool. He claims: According to the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado, Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007 - and even the most committed global warming activists do not dispute this. What's the truth? That the guy is a lying sleaze. Here's what the US National Snow and Ice Data Center actually says. "According to scientific measurements, Arctic sea ice has declined dramatically over at least the past thirty years, with the most extreme decline seen in the summer melt season." And: "At the end of the Arctic summer, more ice cover remained this year than during the previous record-setting low years of 2007 and 2008. However, sea ice has not recovered to previous levels. September sea ice extent was the third lowest since the start of satellite records in 1979, and the past five years have seen the five lowest ice extents in the satellite record." http://nsidc.org/news/press/20091005_minimumpr.html Here's a surprise (not): Mojib Latif's work doesn't say what David Rose claims it does; it says the opposite. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ng-mojib-latif Long story short: this is the same stupidity Neil has been pedaling: that weather and climate are the same thing. -- David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan |
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Jürgen Exner wrote:
wrote: As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the planet. Actually no, global warming isn't endangering life at all. Life will happily survive as it did many, many even more catastrophic changes in the past hundreds of millions of years. Civilization, however, is not so assured of survival, and your present way of life is certainly threatened. -- Ray Fischer |
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On 12 Jan 2010 04:42:36 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote: On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:15:24 -0800 (PST), ".." wrote: Dear All, As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the planet. Lets go back to the beginning. Is it actually occurring? Yes. See http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...arts-here.html This guy is either a paid shill for the oil industry or a confused fool. He claims: According to the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado, Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007 - and even the most committed global warming activists do not dispute this. What's the truth? Published in Geophysical Research Letters, the results of research conducted at University College London found that: Date please. Some places Experienced 49cm of Ice Thickness Loss Last winter the average thickness of sea ice over the whole Arctic fell by 26 cm (10%) compared with the average thickness of the previous five winters, but sea ice in the western Arctic lost around 49 cm of thickness. Difficult to Measure Changes Across Whole Arctic In describing the challenges faced in their research, Dr Katherine Giles said, As the Arctic ice pack is constantly moving, conventional methods can only provide sparse and intermittent measurements of ice thickness from which it is difficult to tell whether the changes are local or across the whole Arctic. Satellites provide the only means to determine trends and a consistent and wide area basis. Envisat altimeter data have provided the critical third dimension to the satellite images which have already revealed a dramatic decrease in the area of ice covered in the Arctic. Eric Stevens |
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"David J. Littleboy" wrote in message ... Long story short: this is the same stupidity Neil has been pedaling: that weather and climate are the same thing. Science Dictionary climate (kli'mit) Pronunciation Key The general or average weather conditions of a certain region, including temperature, rainfall, and wind. On Earth, climate is most affected by latitude, the tilt of the Earth's axis, the movements of the Earth's wind belts, the difference in temperatures of land and sea, and topography. Human activity, especially relating to actions relating to the depletion of the ozone layer, is also an important factor. The American Heritage® Science Dictionary Copyright © 2002. Published by Houghton Mifflin. All rights reserved. ________________ What did you think climate was all about, David? TV listings? |
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"David J. Littleboy" wrote in message ... Long story short: this is the same stupidity Neil has been pedaling: that BTW, how exactly does anyone go about *pedaling* stupidity? Is that something like towing the line? |
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