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Old July 7th 04, 03:32 AM
Joshua Beall
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Default EOS 10D and 1D Mark II

Hi All,

I have been thinking about spending some money on a decent Canon digital
SLR, and I have really fallen for the 1D Mark II. The pricetag is just a
little hard for me to swallow, especially since I am only an amateur; thus I
would be shooting for fun, rather than for profit.

I have handled the 10D and am quite happy with it, although I do wish that
it had a faster drive mode. I enjoy nature photography, and if I had a
faster drive mode, I can think of countless pictures that might have been
better (the latest one being a hummingbird that was zipping along). And
just about every shot I have taken would have benefited from the additional
resolution provided by the 1D Mark II as well.

So what I am wondering is, does anyone feel like the extra cost of the 1D
Mark II is really justifiable for an amateur like myself? The more I think
about it, the more it seems like I should perhaps just start off with the
10D, rather than jump straight to a 4.5k digital SLR. This will be the
first digital SLR I have actually owned; my current digital camera is a
"mere mortal" point-and-shoot model (Pentax Optio 550). But on the other
hand, I do not want to find myself feeling like I need to upgrade in a year,
and have sunk $1200 in a camera that will now serve only as a backup, or
perhaps to lend to trusted friends.

Any thoughts?

Sincerely,
-Josh


  #2  
Old July 7th 04, 03:43 AM
Gary Eickmeier
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Default EOS 10D and 1D Mark II



Joshua Beall wrote:
Hi All,

I have been thinking about spending some money on a decent Canon digital
SLR, and I have really fallen for the 1D Mark II. The pricetag is just a
little hard for me to swallow, especially since I am only an amateur; thus I
would be shooting for fun, rather than for profit.

I have handled the 10D and am quite happy with it, although I do wish that
it had a faster drive mode. I enjoy nature photography, and if I had a
faster drive mode, I can think of countless pictures that might have been
better (the latest one being a hummingbird that was zipping along). And
just about every shot I have taken would have benefited from the additional
resolution provided by the 1D Mark II as well.

So what I am wondering is, does anyone feel like the extra cost of the 1D
Mark II is really justifiable for an amateur like myself? The more I think
about it, the more it seems like I should perhaps just start off with the
10D, rather than jump straight to a 4.5k digital SLR. This will be the
first digital SLR I have actually owned; my current digital camera is a
"mere mortal" point-and-shoot model (Pentax Optio 550). But on the other
hand, I do not want to find myself feeling like I need to upgrade in a year,
and have sunk $1200 in a camera that will now serve only as a backup, or
perhaps to lend to trusted friends.

Any thoughts?


Have you thought about lenses, Joshua? I think you would be smarter to
get the 10D and more or better lenses than to sink your wad into the
body. These things change and upgrade so often and so fast that it might
be better to bide your time and save your money until later, when you
can afford it.

Gary Eickmeier

  #3  
Old July 7th 04, 03:45 AM
leo
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Default EOS 10D and 1D Mark II

"Joshua Beall" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I have been thinking about spending some money on a decent Canon digital
SLR, and I have really fallen for the 1D Mark II. The pricetag is just a
little hard for me to swallow, especially since I am only an amateur; thus

I
would be shooting for fun, rather than for profit.

I have handled the 10D and am quite happy with it, although I do wish that
it had a faster drive mode. I enjoy nature photography, and if I had a
faster drive mode, I can think of countless pictures that might have been
better (the latest one being a hummingbird that was zipping along). And
just about every shot I have taken would have benefited from the

additional
resolution provided by the 1D Mark II as well.

So what I am wondering is, does anyone feel like the extra cost of the 1D
Mark II is really justifiable for an amateur like myself? The more I

think
about it, the more it seems like I should perhaps just start off with the
10D, rather than jump straight to a 4.5k digital SLR. This will be the
first digital SLR I have actually owned; my current digital camera is a
"mere mortal" point-and-shoot model (Pentax Optio 550). But on the other
hand, I do not want to find myself feeling like I need to upgrade in a

year,
and have sunk $1200 in a camera that will now serve only as a backup, or
perhaps to lend to trusted friends.

Any thoughts?

Sincerely,
-Josh



I think you should get the 10D. I know the future cameras will be cheaper
and have more features. You won't lose all your money on it. Ebay is the
perfect way to sell off your old stuffs. I sold the 75-300IS lens at 90% of
the value. You get your money worth from the depreciation and usage out of
it. You can't go wrong with 10D. Get it now and have lots of fun. Be
forewarn that you'd spent a lot more money on lenses if you're addicted to
the L lenses and some sharp non-L lenses, such as 100mm macro USM and 50mm
f/1.4. The DO lenses (compact) and IS (image stabilizer lenses) as well.


  #4  
Old July 7th 04, 04:08 AM
marlin
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Default EOS 10D and 1D Mark II

First, I want to say check the reviews at www.dpreview.com,
www.steves-digicams.com, and www.dcresource.com. Second, you might want to
also ask this question at the forums on www.dpreview.com. Third, you may
want to wait a bit. Word has it the 10D replacement will be out in
September. Forth, it seems that a lot of pros use the 10D, so it can't be
all that bad. IMHO, you should wait for the new version that will be coming
out. That's what I'm doing while I use my G5.
Richard
"Joshua Beall" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I have been thinking about spending some money on a decent Canon digital
SLR, and I have really fallen for the 1D Mark II. The pricetag is just a
little hard for me to swallow, especially since I am only an amateur; thus

I
would be shooting for fun, rather than for profit.

I have handled the 10D and am quite happy with it, although I do wish that
it had a faster drive mode. I enjoy nature photography, and if I had a
faster drive mode, I can think of countless pictures that might have been
better (the latest one being a hummingbird that was zipping along). And
just about every shot I have taken would have benefited from the

additional
resolution provided by the 1D Mark II as well.

So what I am wondering is, does anyone feel like the extra cost of the 1D
Mark II is really justifiable for an amateur like myself? The more I

think
about it, the more it seems like I should perhaps just start off with the
10D, rather than jump straight to a 4.5k digital SLR. This will be the
first digital SLR I have actually owned; my current digital camera is a
"mere mortal" point-and-shoot model (Pentax Optio 550). But on the other
hand, I do not want to find myself feeling like I need to upgrade in a

year,
and have sunk $1200 in a camera that will now serve only as a backup, or
perhaps to lend to trusted friends.

Any thoughts?

Sincerely,
-Josh




  #5  
Old July 7th 04, 04:31 AM
ThomasH
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Default EOS 10D and 1D Mark II

marlin wrote:

First, I want to say check the reviews at www.dpreview.com,
www.steves-digicams.com, and www.dcresource.com. Second, you might want to
also ask this question at the forums on www.dpreview.com. Third, you may
want to wait a bit. Word has it the 10D replacement will be out in
September. Forth, it seems that a lot of pros use the 10D, so it can't be


Actually "word is" that EOS-10D is "all sold out and out of
production" for.... 5-7 months already. And yet is it still
alive and doing well.

This is the difference between rumor and reality. Still,
not based on rumor, on market observation rather, I also
bet on a sonn to follow smaller Canon with their new
magnificent 8Mpix sensor from the EOS-1D MKII. Finally
a low noise sensor capable of providing nice results
in ISO 800!

Thomas

all that bad. IMHO, you should wait for the new version that will be coming
out. That's what I'm doing while I use my G5.
Richard
"Joshua Beall" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I have been thinking about spending some money on a decent Canon digital
SLR, and I have really fallen for the 1D Mark II. The pricetag is just a
little hard for me to swallow, especially since I am only an amateur; thus
I would be shooting for fun, rather than for profit.

I have handled the 10D and am quite happy with it, although I do wish that
it had a faster drive mode. I enjoy nature photography, and if I had a
faster drive mode, I can think of countless pictures that might have been
better (the latest one being a hummingbird that was zipping along). And
just about every shot I have taken would have benefited from the

additional
resolution provided by the 1D Mark II as well.

So what I am wondering is, does anyone feel like the extra cost of the 1D
Mark II is really justifiable for an amateur like myself? The more I

think
about it, the more it seems like I should perhaps just start off with the
10D, rather than jump straight to a 4.5k digital SLR. This will be the
first digital SLR I have actually owned; my current digital camera is a
"mere mortal" point-and-shoot model (Pentax Optio 550). But on the other
hand, I do not want to find myself feeling like I need to upgrade in a

year,
and have sunk $1200 in a camera that will now serve only as a backup, or
perhaps to lend to trusted friends.

Any thoughts?

Sincerely,
-Josh


  #6  
Old July 7th 04, 04:32 AM
ThomasH
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Default EOS 10D and 1D Mark II

marlin wrote:

First, I want to say check the reviews at www.dpreview.com,
www.steves-digicams.com, and www.dcresource.com. Second, you might want to
also ask this question at the forums on www.dpreview.com. Third, you may
want to wait a bit. Word has it the 10D replacement will be out in
September. Forth, it seems that a lot of pros use the 10D, so it can't be


Actually "word is" that EOS-10D is "all sold out and out of
production" for.... 5-7 months already. And yet is it still
alive and doing well.

This is the difference between rumor and reality. Still,
not based on rumor, on market observation rather, I also
bet on a soon to follow smaller Canon with their new
magnificent 8Mpix sensor from the EOS-1D MKII. Finally
someone made a low noise sensor capable of providing nice
results at and above ISO 800!

Thomas

all that bad. IMHO, you should wait for the new version that will be coming
out. That's what I'm doing while I use my G5.
Richard
"Joshua Beall" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I have been thinking about spending some money on a decent Canon digital
SLR, and I have really fallen for the 1D Mark II. The pricetag is just a
little hard for me to swallow, especially since I am only an amateur; thus
I would be shooting for fun, rather than for profit.

I have handled the 10D and am quite happy with it, although I do wish that
it had a faster drive mode. I enjoy nature photography, and if I had a
faster drive mode, I can think of countless pictures that might have been
better (the latest one being a hummingbird that was zipping along). And
just about every shot I have taken would have benefited from the

additional
resolution provided by the 1D Mark II as well.

So what I am wondering is, does anyone feel like the extra cost of the 1D
Mark II is really justifiable for an amateur like myself? The more I

think
about it, the more it seems like I should perhaps just start off with the
10D, rather than jump straight to a 4.5k digital SLR. This will be the
first digital SLR I have actually owned; my current digital camera is a
"mere mortal" point-and-shoot model (Pentax Optio 550). But on the other
hand, I do not want to find myself feeling like I need to upgrade in a

year,
and have sunk $1200 in a camera that will now serve only as a backup, or
perhaps to lend to trusted friends.

Any thoughts?

Sincerely,
-Josh


  #7  
Old July 7th 04, 04:32 AM
ThomasH
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Default EOS 10D and 1D Mark II

marlin wrote:

First, I want to say check the reviews at www.dpreview.com,
www.steves-digicams.com, and www.dcresource.com. Second, you might want to
also ask this question at the forums on www.dpreview.com. Third, you may
want to wait a bit. Word has it the 10D replacement will be out in
September. Forth, it seems that a lot of pros use the 10D, so it can't be


Actually "word is" that EOS-10D is "all sold out and out of
production" for.... 5-7 months already. And yet is it still
alive and doing well.

This is the difference between rumor and reality. Still,
not based on rumor, on market observation rather, I also
bet on a soon to follow smaller Canon with their new
magnificent 8Mpix sensor from the EOS-1D MKII. Finally
someone made a low noise sensor capable of providing nice
results at and above ISO 800!

Thomas

all that bad. IMHO, you should wait for the new version that will be coming
out. That's what I'm doing while I use my G5.
Richard
"Joshua Beall" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I have been thinking about spending some money on a decent Canon digital
SLR, and I have really fallen for the 1D Mark II. The pricetag is just a
little hard for me to swallow, especially since I am only an amateur; thus
I would be shooting for fun, rather than for profit.

I have handled the 10D and am quite happy with it, although I do wish that
it had a faster drive mode. I enjoy nature photography, and if I had a
faster drive mode, I can think of countless pictures that might have been
better (the latest one being a hummingbird that was zipping along). And
just about every shot I have taken would have benefited from the

additional
resolution provided by the 1D Mark II as well.

So what I am wondering is, does anyone feel like the extra cost of the 1D
Mark II is really justifiable for an amateur like myself? The more I

think
about it, the more it seems like I should perhaps just start off with the
10D, rather than jump straight to a 4.5k digital SLR. This will be the
first digital SLR I have actually owned; my current digital camera is a
"mere mortal" point-and-shoot model (Pentax Optio 550). But on the other
hand, I do not want to find myself feeling like I need to upgrade in a

year,
and have sunk $1200 in a camera that will now serve only as a backup, or
perhaps to lend to trusted friends.

Any thoughts?

Sincerely,
-Josh


  #8  
Old July 7th 04, 04:32 AM
ThomasH
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Default EOS 10D and 1D Mark II

marlin wrote:

First, I want to say check the reviews at www.dpreview.com,
www.steves-digicams.com, and www.dcresource.com. Second, you might want to
also ask this question at the forums on www.dpreview.com. Third, you may
want to wait a bit. Word has it the 10D replacement will be out in
September. Forth, it seems that a lot of pros use the 10D, so it can't be


Actually "word is" that EOS-10D is "all sold out and out of
production" for.... 5-7 months already. And yet is it still
alive and doing well.

This is the difference between rumor and reality. Still,
not based on rumor, on market observation rather, I also
bet on a soon to follow smaller Canon with their new
magnificent 8Mpix sensor from the EOS-1D MKII. Finally
someone made a low noise sensor capable of providing nice
results at and above ISO 800!

Thomas

all that bad. IMHO, you should wait for the new version that will be coming
out. That's what I'm doing while I use my G5.
Richard
"Joshua Beall" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I have been thinking about spending some money on a decent Canon digital
SLR, and I have really fallen for the 1D Mark II. The pricetag is just a
little hard for me to swallow, especially since I am only an amateur; thus
I would be shooting for fun, rather than for profit.

I have handled the 10D and am quite happy with it, although I do wish that
it had a faster drive mode. I enjoy nature photography, and if I had a
faster drive mode, I can think of countless pictures that might have been
better (the latest one being a hummingbird that was zipping along). And
just about every shot I have taken would have benefited from the

additional
resolution provided by the 1D Mark II as well.

So what I am wondering is, does anyone feel like the extra cost of the 1D
Mark II is really justifiable for an amateur like myself? The more I

think
about it, the more it seems like I should perhaps just start off with the
10D, rather than jump straight to a 4.5k digital SLR. This will be the
first digital SLR I have actually owned; my current digital camera is a
"mere mortal" point-and-shoot model (Pentax Optio 550). But on the other
hand, I do not want to find myself feeling like I need to upgrade in a

year,
and have sunk $1200 in a camera that will now serve only as a backup, or
perhaps to lend to trusted friends.

Any thoughts?

Sincerely,
-Josh


  #9  
Old July 7th 04, 12:47 PM
Mark B.
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"marlin" wrote in message
...
First, I want to say check the reviews at www.dpreview.com,
www.steves-digicams.com, and www.dcresource.com. Second, you might want to
also ask this question at the forums on www.dpreview.com. Third, you may
want to wait a bit. Word has it the 10D replacement will be out in
September. Forth, it seems that a lot of pros use the 10D, so it can't be
all that bad. IMHO, you should wait for the new version that will be

coming
out. That's what I'm doing while I use my G5.
Richard


Keep in mind that any replacement may not be available for a month or two
after the announcement. If you're not in a hurry it might be worth waiting
to see what it is.

Mark


  #10  
Old July 7th 04, 01:19 PM
Skip M
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"Joshua Beall" wrote in message
...
Hi All,

I have been thinking about spending some money on a decent Canon digital
SLR, and I have really fallen for the 1D Mark II. The pricetag is just a
little hard for me to swallow, especially since I am only an amateur; thus

I
would be shooting for fun, rather than for profit.

I have handled the 10D and am quite happy with it, although I do wish that
it had a faster drive mode. I enjoy nature photography, and if I had a
faster drive mode, I can think of countless pictures that might have been
better (the latest one being a hummingbird that was zipping along). And
just about every shot I have taken would have benefited from the

additional
resolution provided by the 1D Mark II as well.

So what I am wondering is, does anyone feel like the extra cost of the 1D
Mark II is really justifiable for an amateur like myself? The more I

think
about it, the more it seems like I should perhaps just start off with the
10D, rather than jump straight to a 4.5k digital SLR. This will be the
first digital SLR I have actually owned; my current digital camera is a
"mere mortal" point-and-shoot model (Pentax Optio 550). But on the other
hand, I do not want to find myself feeling like I need to upgrade in a

year,
and have sunk $1200 in a camera that will now serve only as a backup, or
perhaps to lend to trusted friends.

Any thoughts?

Sincerely,
-Josh


I was really close to getting a 1D mkII, but decided to wait until the next
round of camera announcements in Sept. If Canon announces a significant
improvement in the 10D then, I'll wait until it actually hits the street.
If they don't, I'll probably get the 1D mkII.
In the meantime, I bought my wife a used 10D for under $1000, that might be
an option for you. There are photographers out there who had 2 10D bodies,
bought a 1D mkII and are dumping the extra 10D.


 




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