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February 14th 05, 12:11 AM
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Digital Photo Proffessional > Focus
Digital Photo Proffessional Focus Newbie here... I use Zoombroser 5 to rate and catogorize my photos. I have tried other software and have found nothing that loads as quickly and handles my 7,000+ photos as easily. I started using Digital Photo Professional 1.5 to edit my RAW's. The question is does anybody know how to get DPP to focus on the photo selected instead of the default directory? Double clicking on the RAW photo launches DPP but does not open DPP to the double clicked photo! Instead DPP opens and looks to either the last folder opened or the default folder neither of which may contain your double clicked photo. Just asking, thanks in advance if anyone has the work around. 
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February 14th 05, 05:51 AM
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Personally I'd think long and hard before using DPP. Despite it's improved
workflow interface it's 'interpretation' of the RAW files substantially misjudges the R component in images (compared to the camera's own interpretation 10D & 20D). Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message k.net... Digital Photo Proffessional Focus Newbie here... I use Zoombroser 5 to rate and catogorize my photos. I have tried other software and have found nothing that loads as quickly and handles my 7,000+ photos as easily. I started using Digital Photo Professional 1.5 to edit my RAW's. The question is does anybody know how to get DPP to focus on the photo selected instead of the default directory? Double clicking on the RAW photo launches DPP but does not open DPP to the double clicked photo! Instead DPP opens and looks to either the last folder opened or the default folder neither of which may contain your double clicked photo. Just asking, thanks in advance if anyone has the work around.
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February 15th 05, 04:39 AM
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You have my attention...
What would you suggest instead? Randall "DM" wrote in message ... Personally I'd think long and hard before using DPP. Despite it's improved workflow interface it's 'interpretation' of the RAW files substantially misjudges the R component in images (compared to the camera's own interpretation 10D & 20D). Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message k.net... Digital Photo Proffessional Focus Newbie here... I use Zoombroser 5 to rate and catogorize my photos. I have tried other software and have found nothing that loads as quickly and handles my 7,000+ photos as easily. I started using Digital Photo Professional 1.5 to edit my RAW's. The question is does anybody know how to get DPP to focus on the photo selected instead of the default directory? Double clicking on the RAW photo launches DPP but does not open DPP to the double clicked photo! Instead DPP opens and looks to either the last folder opened or the default folder neither of which may contain your double clicked photo. Just asking, thanks in advance if anyone has the work around.
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#4
February 16th 05, 06:53 PM
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Randall,
I have a direct image comparison using an original 20D jpg and the RAW conversions from... 1) EOS Viewer Utility 2) Breeze Browser Pro 3) Digital Photo Professional 4) Photoshop RAW Plug-In 5) C1 Pro LE 6) DxO The series comprises 6x ~200KB jpg files. I could post them here but am unsure of the group etiquette (I am picking this up from Blueyonder's Binary Server but as there is no 'binary' component in the newsgroup name I don't want to hack off a load of other users) - though I think a lot may be interested considering the nature of the group. If enough users consent I post them here - otherwise, for now, if you let me have you email address I'll send them to you direct. Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message .net... You have my attention... What would you suggest instead? Randall "DM" wrote in message ... Personally I'd think long and hard before using DPP. Despite it's improved workflow interface it's 'interpretation' of the RAW files substantially misjudges the R component in images (compared to the camera's own interpretation 10D & 20D). Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message k.net... Digital Photo Proffessional Focus Newbie here... I use Zoombroser 5 to rate and catogorize my photos. I have tried other software and have found nothing that loads as quickly and handles my 7,000+ photos as easily. I started using Digital Photo Professional 1.5 to edit my RAW's. The question is does anybody know how to get DPP to focus on the photo selected instead of the default directory? Double clicking on the RAW photo launches DPP but does not open DPP to the double clicked photo! Instead DPP opens and looks to either the last folder opened or the default folder neither of which may contain your double clicked photo. Just asking, thanks in advance if anyone has the work around.
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February 16th 05, 09:39 PM
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I would be interested too. Is there anywhere you can post them?
"DM" wrote in message . uk... Randall, I have a direct image comparison using an original 20D jpg and the RAW conversions from... 1) EOS Viewer Utility 2) Breeze Browser Pro 3) Digital Photo Professional 4) Photoshop RAW Plug-In 5) C1 Pro LE 6) DxO The series comprises 6x ~200KB jpg files. I could post them here but am unsure of the group etiquette (I am picking this up from Blueyonder's Binary Server but as there is no 'binary' component in the newsgroup name I don't want to hack off a load of other users) - though I think a lot may be interested considering the nature of the group. If enough users consent I post them here - otherwise, for now, if you let me have you email address I'll send them to you direct. Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message .net... You have my attention... What would you suggest instead? Randall "DM" wrote in message ... Personally I'd think long and hard before using DPP. Despite it's improved workflow interface it's 'interpretation' of the RAW files substantially misjudges the R component in images (compared to the camera's own interpretation 10D & 20D). Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message k.net... Digital Photo Proffessional Focus Newbie here... I use Zoombroser 5 to rate and catogorize my photos. I have tried other software and have found nothing that loads as quickly and handles my 7,000+ photos as easily. I started using Digital Photo Professional 1.5 to edit my RAW's. The question is does anybody know how to get DPP to focus on the photo selected instead of the default directory? Double clicking on the RAW photo launches DPP but does not open DPP to the double clicked photo! Instead DPP opens and looks to either the last folder opened or the default folder neither of which may contain your double clicked photo. Just asking, thanks in advance if anyone has the work around.
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#6
February 17th 05, 05:21 AM
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I'll post them for everyone if you send to the address at:
http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=mail.php Most providers will not allow binaries so most people won't see them here even if you did. DM wrote: Randall, I have a direct image comparison using an original 20D jpg and the RAW conversions from... 1) EOS Viewer Utility 2) Breeze Browser Pro 3) Digital Photo Professional 4) Photoshop RAW Plug-In 5) C1 Pro LE 6) DxO The series comprises 6x ~200KB jpg files. I could post them here but am unsure of the group etiquette (I am picking this up from Blueyonder's Binary Server but as there is no 'binary' component in the newsgroup name I don't want to hack off a load of other users) - though I think a lot may be interested considering the nature of the group. If enough users consent I post them here - otherwise, for now, if you let me have you email address I'll send them to you direct. Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message .net... You have my attention... What would you suggest instead? Randall "DM" wrote in message . uk... Personally I'd think long and hard before using DPP. Despite it's improved workflow interface it's 'interpretation' of the RAW files substantially misjudges the R component in images (compared to the camera's own interpretation 10D & 20D). Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message link.net... Digital Photo Proffessional Focus Newbie here... I use Zoombroser 5 to rate and catogorize my photos. I have tried other software and have found nothing that loads as quickly and handles my 7,000+ photos as easily. I started using Digital Photo Professional 1.5 to edit my RAW's. The question is does anybody know how to get DPP to focus on the photo selected instead of the default directory? Double clicking on the RAW photo launches DPP but does not open DPP to the double clicked photo! Instead DPP opens and looks to either the last folder opened or the default folder neither of which may contain your double clicked photo. Just asking, thanks in advance if anyone has the work around.
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February 18th 05, 01:19 AM
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Hi Paul,
Thanks for the offer - I've sent the files to the email address as directed. Regards DM "paul" wrote in message ... I'll post them for everyone if you send to the address at: http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=mail.php Most providers will not allow binaries so most people won't see them here even if you did. DM wrote: Randall, I have a direct image comparison using an original 20D jpg and the RAW conversions from... 1) EOS Viewer Utility 2) Breeze Browser Pro 3) Digital Photo Professional 4) Photoshop RAW Plug-In 5) C1 Pro LE 6) DxO The series comprises 6x ~200KB jpg files. I could post them here but am unsure of the group etiquette (I am picking this up from Blueyonder's Binary Server but as there is no 'binary' component in the newsgroup name I don't want to hack off a load of other users) - though I think a lot may be interested considering the nature of the group. If enough users consent I post them here - otherwise, for now, if you let me have you email address I'll send them to you direct. Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message .net... You have my attention... What would you suggest instead? Randall "DM" wrote in message .uk... Personally I'd think long and hard before using DPP. Despite it's improved workflow interface it's 'interpretation' of the RAW files substantially misjudges the R component in images (compared to the camera's own interpretation 10D & 20D). Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message hlink.net... Digital Photo Proffessional Focus Newbie here... I use Zoombroser 5 to rate and catogorize my photos. I have tried other software and have found nothing that loads as quickly and handles my 7,000+ photos as easily. I started using Digital Photo Professional 1.5 to edit my RAW's. The question is does anybody know how to get DPP to focus on the photo selected instead of the default directory? Double clicking on the RAW photo launches DPP but does not open DPP to the double clicked photo! Instead DPP opens and looks to either the last folder opened or the default folder neither of which may contain your double clicked photo. Just asking, thanks in advance if anyone has the work around.
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February 18th 05, 05:19 PM
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I've got them he
http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=Misc/photography/raw-conversion and below that, as simple images: http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=Misc/photography/raw-conversion/crop&PICS=9 and with histograms: http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=Misc/photography/raw-conversion/histogram&PICS=9 Quite some differences. So any conclusions anyone? How was the original created? DM wrote: Hi Paul, Thanks for the offer - I've sent the files to the email address as directed. Regards DM "paul" wrote in message ... I'll post them for everyone if you send to the address at: http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=mail.php Most providers will not allow binaries so most people won't see them here even if you did. DM wrote: Randall, I have a direct image comparison using an original 20D jpg and the RAW conversions from... 1) EOS Viewer Utility 2) Breeze Browser Pro 3) Digital Photo Professional 4) Photoshop RAW Plug-In 5) C1 Pro LE 6) DxO The series comprises 6x ~200KB jpg files. I could post them here but am unsure of the group etiquette (I am picking this up from Blueyonder's Binary Server but as there is no 'binary' component in the newsgroup name I don't want to hack off a load of other users) - though I think a lot may be interested considering the nature of the group. If enough users consent I post them here - otherwise, for now, if you let me have you email address I'll send them to you direct. Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message ink.net... You have my attention... What would you suggest instead? Randall "DM" wrote in message o.uk... Personally I'd think long and hard before using DPP. Despite it's improved workflow interface it's 'interpretation' of the RAW files substantially misjudges the R component in images (compared to the camera's own interpretation 10D & 20D). Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message thlink.net... Digital Photo Proffessional Focus Newbie here... I use Zoombroser 5 to rate and catogorize my photos. I have tried other software and have found nothing that loads as quickly and handles my 7,000+ photos as easily. I started using Digital Photo Professional 1.5 to edit my RAW's. The question is does anybody know how to get DPP to focus on the photo selected instead of the default directory? Double clicking on the RAW photo launches DPP but does not open DPP to the double clicked photo! Instead DPP opens and looks to either the last folder opened or the default folder neither of which may contain your double clicked photo. Just asking, thanks in advance if anyone has the work around.
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#9
February 18th 05, 10:43 PM
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Paul,
By 'the original' I take it you mean how did I arrive at the composite images side-by-side? But just in case - to cover all bases... The original image was shot with a 20D early one morning at a Cross-Country meeting using both RAW and Max JPG. It comes from a sequence of 24 photo's that I'd originally processed using the EOS Viewer Util and then thought I'd see 'what extra' I could extract from the images using the Digital Photo 'Pro'. I love the interface but was appalled at it's handling of the R part of the colour matrix. Perhaps we need to establish a point of principle he Personally, I shoot RAW so I have the ability to correct any errors post shooting. However, if the original max quality JPG from the camera (shot simultaneously) looks correct - then I would expect the RAW conversion to give me what the camera JPG was as it's staring point. If, after that, I disagree with the camera's decision - at the time - I can then override it in the software. What I don't expect is to have a disagreement about what the starting point is!!!! As to arriving at the composited images... a.. Each 16 bit tif was converted using the respective packages default values and saved without editing, or further processing. The images were then cropped still as a tif (using Thumbs+ Pro) to give identical crops. [The crop of the jersey was chosen to highlight the problem under discussion without revealing any unnecessary bits of the kids - a topic photographers have to be constantly careful of these days.] a.. Once all the conversions were available I put them in separate directories for each image comparison & had Thumbsplus make a contact sheet of the 2 file directory with the 'thumbnail' size set to be the exact dimensions on the original tiffs. b.. Juxtaposing them together with the original jpg was done simply to make a direct comparison easy. c.. All the original files are available (both RAW & original conversions at max res) if someone doubts that the images shown really represent the accuracy & quality of the originals. None of these images have been altered or processed in any way other than as described above. Hope this helps folks make their own assessment of the images shown. Personally I was just so disappointed that the DPP from Canon - whose interface I love - was just so far out. However, it was only when I then decided to try out all of the current alternatives that I realised Canon was not alone in having difficulty enhancing on the basic accuracy of the camera's own JPG Regards DM "paul" wrote in message ... I've got them he http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=Misc/photography/raw-conversion and below that, as simple images: http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=Misc/photography/raw-conversion/crop&PICS=9 and with histograms: http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=Misc/photography/raw-conversion/histogram&PICS=9 Quite some differences. So any conclusions anyone? How was the original created? DM wrote: Hi Paul, Thanks for the offer - I've sent the files to the email address as directed. Regards DM "paul" wrote in message ... I'll post them for everyone if you send to the address at: http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=mail.php Most providers will not allow binaries so most people won't see them here even if you did. DM wrote: Randall, I have a direct image comparison using an original 20D jpg and the RAW conversions from... 1) EOS Viewer Utility 2) Breeze Browser Pro 3) Digital Photo Professional 4) Photoshop RAW Plug-In 5) C1 Pro LE 6) DxO The series comprises 6x ~200KB jpg files. I could post them here but am unsure of the group etiquette (I am picking this up from Blueyonder's Binary Server but as there is no 'binary' component in the newsgroup name I don't want to hack off a load of other users) - though I think a lot may be interested considering the nature of the group. If enough users consent I post them here - otherwise, for now, if you let me have you email address I'll send them to you direct. Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message link.net... You have my attention... What would you suggest instead? Randall "DM" wrote in message . co.uk... Personally I'd think long and hard before using DPP. Despite it's improved workflow interface it's 'interpretation' of the RAW files substantially misjudges the R component in images (compared to the camera's own interpretation 10D & 20D). Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message rthlink.net... Digital Photo Proffessional Focus Newbie here... I use Zoombroser 5 to rate and catogorize my photos. I have tried other software and have found nothing that loads as quickly and handles my 7,000+ photos as easily. I started using Digital Photo Professional 1.5 to edit my RAW's. The question is does anybody know how to get DPP to focus on the photo selected instead of the default directory? Double clicking on the RAW photo launches DPP but does not open DPP to the double clicked photo! Instead DPP opens and looks to either the last folder opened or the default folder neither of which may contain your double clicked photo. Just asking, thanks in advance if anyone has the work around.
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February 18th 05, 10:58 PM
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Paul,
Thanks first of all for taking the trouble to post these. Secondly, the histogram analysis was fascinating but I wonder could you do the same focusing just on the red jumper? The reason I ask is that, despite showing a marked shift in certain programs I think it would be even more marked if one just focused on the problem area? Unfair? Maybe - but I'd be interested nonetheless... Paul - thanks once again for taking the time to do this - I appreciate it. Regards DM "paul" wrote in message ... I've got them he http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=Misc/photography/raw-conversion and below that, as simple images: http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=Misc/photography/raw-conversion/crop&PICS=9 and with histograms: http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=Misc/photography/raw-conversion/histogram&PICS=9 Quite some differences. So any conclusions anyone? How was the original created? DM wrote: Hi Paul, Thanks for the offer - I've sent the files to the email address as directed. Regards DM "paul" wrote in message ... I'll post them for everyone if you send to the address at: http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=mail.php Most providers will not allow binaries so most people won't see them here even if you did. DM wrote: Randall, I have a direct image comparison using an original 20D jpg and the RAW conversions from... 1) EOS Viewer Utility 2) Breeze Browser Pro 3) Digital Photo Professional 4) Photoshop RAW Plug-In 5) C1 Pro LE 6) DxO The series comprises 6x ~200KB jpg files. I could post them here but am unsure of the group etiquette (I am picking this up from Blueyonder's Binary Server but as there is no 'binary' component in the newsgroup name I don't want to hack off a load of other users) - though I think a lot may be interested considering the nature of the group. If enough users consent I post them here - otherwise, for now, if you let me have you email address I'll send them to you direct. Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message link.net... You have my attention... What would you suggest instead? Randall "DM" wrote in message . co.uk... Personally I'd think long and hard before using DPP. Despite it's improved workflow interface it's 'interpretation' of the RAW files substantially misjudges the R component in images (compared to the camera's own interpretation 10D & 20D). Regards DM "Randall" wrote in message rthlink.net... Digital Photo Proffessional Focus Newbie here... I use Zoombroser 5 to rate and catogorize my photos. I have tried other software and have found nothing that loads as quickly and handles my 7,000+ photos as easily. I started using Digital Photo Professional 1.5 to edit my RAW's. The question is does anybody know how to get DPP to focus on the photo selected instead of the default directory? Double clicking on the RAW photo launches DPP but does not open DPP to the double clicked photo! Instead DPP opens and looks to either the last folder opened or the default folder neither of which may contain your double clicked photo. Just asking, thanks in advance if anyone has the work around.
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