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On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 17:44:14 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

I don't know hat you guys are doing. The last time I had to repair
Windows was in the days of Windows 2000. Since then it's been a
substantially smooth ride apart from the frequent changes in the user
interface.

I might have been exaggerating. The last time I had to repair Windows
was 3 long days ago. And it's been about a month since I had to reset
all of my audio settings to get any sound. But that is a monthly
thing, so I can't really complain.

We obviously use our PC's in different ways. And admittedly, it's not
necessarily Windows itself with some issues, but I think Windows
should better handle problems that pop up with mainstream software,
instead of just locking up. If I can't even kill a process, I blame
Windows for that.

I think you're also forgetting that Spyder issue you had, and the file
permissions issues.

he's forgetting a lot of issues.

I am distinguishing between all problems I have had and those which
are purely attributable to Windows.

they're all attributable to windows.

The Spyder ones certainly were not. But Windows 2000 certainly didn't
make life easier. I think I saw more blue screens with that than all
other versions combined.

you are dismissing an entire set of problems for no valid reason, other
than to justify using windows.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 2018-02-01 08:34:46 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 04:29:47 +0100, android wrote:

On 2018-01-31 22:37:46 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 05:47:16 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:


I think you're also forgetting that Spyder issue you had, and the file
permissions issues.

I wouldn't class the Spyder problem as the fault of Windows any more
than I attribute my i1 problems to Windows. The file permissions
problems are something I could do without but they continue to work as
intended and have never brought Windows to a grinding halt.

those absolutely are a problem with windows.

They make networking between machines running different versions of
Windows a pain in the arse.

Install w10 on them all and you're done... ;-ppp

Not if you want to access a wide range of files on one machine from
another.

Can't you use SAMBA?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samba_(software)

http://tinyurl.com/lszy46m
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In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:



They make networking between machines running different versions of
Windows a pain in the arse.

Install w10 on them all and you're done... ;-ppp

Not if you want to access a wide range of files on one machine from
another.

nonsense.

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

I think you're also forgetting that Spyder issue you had, and the file
permissions issues.

he's forgetting a lot of issues.

I am distinguishing between all problems I have had and those which
are purely attributable to Windows.

they're all attributable to windows.

The Spyder ones certainly were not.

yes they were, since the problems you describe don't happen on mac os.

But Windows 2000 certainly didn't
make life easier. I think I saw more blue screens with that than all
other versions combined.

then it did cause all sorts of issues, ones which you are ignoring.

people *expect* windows to bluescreen, thinking it's normal. it's not.

there are alternatives.

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

I think you're also forgetting that Spyder issue you had, and the file
permissions issues.

I wouldn't class the Spyder problem as the fault of Windows any more
than I attribute my i1 problems to Windows. The file permissions
problems are something I could do without but they continue to work as
intended and have never brought Windows to a grinding halt.

those absolutely are a problem with windows.

They make networking between machines running different versions of
Windows a pain in the arse.

how would using a spyder plugged into a usb port cause windows
networking problems?

for that to be true, windows would need to be *really* ****ed up.

Nope. It's your understanding of the English language is ****ed up. I
was commenting on "The file permissions problems are something I could
do without but they continue to work as intended and have never
brought Windows to a grinding halt."

you brought up networking. why did you mention networking in a
discussion about spyder issues?

in another post, you mentioned repeated bluescreens. that would be
considered a grinding halt.

I presume that you too were
commenting on 'the file permissions problems' when you wrote "those
absolutely are a problem with windows.".

it is a windows issue.

no such issues on mac os.

On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 09:19:47 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

I think you're also forgetting that Spyder issue you had, and the file
permissions issues.

I wouldn't class the Spyder problem as the fault of Windows any more
than I attribute my i1 problems to Windows. The file permissions
problems are something I could do without but they continue to work as
intended and have never brought Windows to a grinding halt.

those absolutely are a problem with windows.

They make networking between machines running different versions of
Windows a pain in the arse.

how would using a spyder plugged into a usb port cause windows
networking problems?

for that to be true, windows would need to be *really* ****ed up.

Nope. It's your understanding of the English language is ****ed up. I
was commenting on "The file permissions problems are something I could
do without but they continue to work as intended and have never
brought Windows to a grinding halt."

you brought up networking. why did you mention networking in a
discussion about spyder issues?

Because you named Spyder problems and file permissions in the one
sentence. As I thought you could have read I wrote "The file
permissions problems are something I could do without but they
continue to work as intended and have never brought Windows to a
grinding halt." and when you wrote "those absolutely are a problem
with windows." I responded "They make networking between machines
running different versions of Windows a pain in the arse."

So, you see I did not mention networking in a discussion about Spyder
issues.

in another post, you mentioned repeated bluescreens. that would be
considered a grinding halt.

I also mentioned that was with Windows 2000 which dates back to the
last century.

I presume that you too were
commenting on 'the file permissions problems' when you wrote "those
absolutely are a problem with windows.".

it is a windows issue.

no such issues on mac os.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 10:28:09 +0100, android wrote:

On 2018-02-01 08:34:46 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 04:29:47 +0100, android wrote:

On 2018-01-31 22:37:46 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 05:47:16 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:


I think you're also forgetting that Spyder issue you had, and the file
permissions issues.

I wouldn't class the Spyder problem as the fault of Windows any more
than I attribute my i1 problems to Windows. The file permissions
problems are something I could do without but they continue to work as
intended and have never brought Windows to a grinding halt.

those absolutely are a problem with windows.

They make networking between machines running different versions of
Windows a pain in the arse.

Install w10 on them all and you're done... ;-ppp

Not if you want to access a wide range of files on one machine from
another.

Can't you use SAMBA?

Possibly, but my need is not sufficiently pressing to justify the
effort in getting started.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samba_(software)

http://tinyurl.com/lszy46m
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 09:19:46 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:



They make networking between machines running different versions of
Windows a pain in the arse.

Install w10 on them all and you're done... ;-ppp

Not if you want to access a wide range of files on one machine from
another.

nonsense.

My experience does not seem to be the same as yours.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 09:19:46 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

I think you're also forgetting that Spyder issue you had, and the file
permissions issues.

he's forgetting a lot of issues.

I am distinguishing between all problems I have had and those which
are purely attributable to Windows.

they're all attributable to windows.

The Spyder ones certainly were not.

yes they were, since the problems you describe don't happen on mac os.

I can't even remember what the problems were but I do know I only
experienced them with one version of hardware and sftware respectively
and that Spyder had a work around.

But Windows 2000 certainly didn't
make life easier. I think I saw more blue screens with that than all
other versions combined.

then it did cause all sorts of issues, ones which you are ignoring.

Windows 2000? Launched in 1999. I'm ignoring them? Nonsense I've long
forgotten them.

people *expect* windows to bluescreen, thinking it's normal. it's not.

I haven't had a blue screen since my initial days with XP.

With Windows 10 I have had a few externally caused experiences* which
which would munched Windows in the old days. But it always comes up
with a reboot although it sometimes takes a bit longer than usual.

* e.g. Power failure during a software upgrade with the UPS running
out of steam before the upgrade has finished.

there are alternatives.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

I think you're also forgetting that Spyder issue you had, and the
file permissions issues.

I wouldn't class the Spyder problem as the fault of Windows any more
than I attribute my i1 problems to Windows. The file permissions
problems are something I could do without but they continue to work
as intended and have never brought Windows to a grinding halt.

those absolutely are a problem with windows.

They make networking between machines running different versions of
Windows a pain in the arse.

how would using a spyder plugged into a usb port cause windows
networking problems?

for that to be true, windows would need to be *really* ****ed up.

Nope. It's your understanding of the English language is ****ed up. I
was commenting on "The file permissions problems are something I could
do without but they continue to work as intended and have never
brought Windows to a grinding halt."

you brought up networking. why did you mention networking in a
discussion about spyder issues?

Because you named Spyder problems and file permissions in the one
sentence.

nope. bill said that.

As I thought you could have read I wrote "The file
permissions problems are something I could do without but they
continue to work as intended and have never brought Windows to a
grinding halt." and when you wrote "those absolutely are a problem
with windows." I responded "They make networking between machines
running different versions of Windows a pain in the arse."

you're dismissing problems and accepting them as normal.

very strange.

So, you see I did not mention networking in a discussion about Spyder
issues.

then why did you mention networking issues in a discussion about spyder
and permissions?

in another post, you mentioned repeated bluescreens. that would be
considered a grinding halt.

I also mentioned that was with Windows 2000 which dates back to the
last century.

it still counts.