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Ok, now that I've got that communications glitch straightened out, I think I
was able to put together the image I was shooting for. http://www.blind-apertures.ca/pics/Landscape.jpg It's a quasiHDR image of the river valley, here in Edmonton. Five shots, ranging from -2 to +2 stops and combined using Elements 11. If you feel like commenting, that'd be great. (I'll try to curb my tendency to ask excessive questions.) Take Care, Dudley |
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Dudley Hanks wrote:
Ok, now that I've got that communications glitch straightened out, I think I was able to put together the image I was shooting for. http://www.blind-apertures.ca/pics/Landscape.jpg It's a quasiHDR image of the river valley, here in Edmonton. Five shots, ranging from -2 to +2 stops and combined using Elements 11. If you feel like commenting, that'd be great. (I'll try to curb my tendency to ask excessive questions.) Take Care, Dudley You've got my disease. It needs to be rotated clockwise, the smokestacks, tall buildings etc all lean left. My subjective impression is that the image is rather bland. Whether this is due to your processing I cannot say, the buildings interspersed with the trees is more interesting to me than the grass and weeds in the foreground. David |
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On 2013-06-23 19:21:44 -0700, "Dudley Hanks" said:
Ok, now that I've got that communications glitch straightened out, I think I was able to put together the image I was shooting for. http://www.blind-apertures.ca/pics/Landscape.jpg It's a quasiHDR image of the river valley, here in Edmonton. What do you mean by "quasiHDR"? Five shots, ranging from -2 to +2 stops and combined using Elements 11. That is a start, but just combining the bracket set with PSE11 does not make it any sort of HDR. Your result is bland and no better than the WB problem shot, HDR doesn't really seem to be needed. If you are going to process the 5 shot bracket as an HDR you will need at a minimum the Photoshop "merge to HDR" feature or dedicated HDR software such as Photomatix or NIK HDR Efex Pro2. If you care to post the 5 shots from your HDR bracket and I would be happy to see what I can get from them. If you feel like commenting, that'd be great. (I'll try to curb my tendency to ask excessive questions.) Take Care, Dudley -- Regards, Savageduck |
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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message ... Dudley Hanks wrote: Ok, now that I've got that communications glitch straightened out, I think I was able to put together the image I was shooting for. http://www.blind-apertures.ca/pics/Landscape.jpg It's a quasiHDR image of the river valley, here in Edmonton. Five shots, ranging from -2 to +2 stops and combined using Elements 11. If you feel like commenting, that'd be great. (I'll try to curb my tendency to ask excessive questions.) Take Care, Dudley You've got my disease. It needs to be rotated clockwise, the smokestacks, tall buildings etc all lean left. My subjective impression is that the image is rather bland. Whether this is due to your processing I cannot say, the buildings interspersed with the trees is more interesting to me than the grass and weeds in the foreground. David Thanks for the feedback, especially for telling me the pic's crooked. Straightening pics is one of the next tasks to master on the todo list. Also, I'm glad you told me it's bland. I thought it would be, so I pumped up the mid-tones and saturation, but I guess it didn't help much. Better composition / content is also on the todo list... Take Care, Dudley |
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"Savageduck" wrote in message
news:2013062320224237709-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom... On 2013-06-23 19:21:44 -0700, "Dudley Hanks" said: Ok, now that I've got that communications glitch straightened out, I think I was able to put together the image I was shooting for. http://www.blind-apertures.ca/pics/Landscape.jpg It's a quasiHDR image of the river valley, here in Edmonton. What do you mean by "quasiHDR"? Just that it's an attempt to compress a dynamic range my cam couldn't capture by using multiple exposures and merging them using the exposure merge feature in Elements. Five shots, ranging from -2 to +2 stops and combined using Elements 11. That is a start, but just combining the bracket set with PSE11 does not make it any sort of HDR. Your result is bland and no better than the WB problem shot, HDR doesn't really seem to be needed. If you are going to process the 5 shot bracket as an HDR you will need at a minimum the Photoshop "merge to HDR" feature or dedicated HDR software such as Photomatix or NIK HDR Efex Pro2. It's my understanding that HDR is simply a term used to describe the process used to compress a highly dynamic scene into colours / tones that can be reproduced in a single image. Am I missing something in this definition? If you care to post the 5 shots from your HDR bracket and I would be happy to see what I can get from them. This pic is just the end result of an exercise I undertook to help me understand an issue I'm systematically working through: to develop a process by which I can achieve results similar to those of a sighted photographer in settings whereby the lighting range exceeds the capability of my camera to capture it, and in which it is impractical to use an artificial means to smooth out the lighting curve (i.e. flash, reflectors, etc). I understand that a few adjustments in Camera Raw to the shadows, highlights, whites, and blacks sliders, to name only a few, can do the same thing, but it wouldn't tell me much about what kind of results can be achieved with the exposure merge feature. It's not an attempt to produce a completed image for the sake of the image, just another step in the journey... After I feel more comfortable doing an exposure merge, I'll devote more time and energy to producing an actual HDR image. Take Care, Dudley |
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"RichA" wrote in message
... On Sunday, June 23, 2013 10:21:44 PM UTC-4, Dudley Hanks wrote: Ok, now that I've got that communications glitch straightened out, I think I was able to put together the image I was shooting for. http://www.blind-apertures.ca/pics/Landscape.jpg It's a quasiHDR image of the river valley, here in Edmonton. Five shots, ranging from -2 to +2 stops and combined using Elements 11. If you feel like commenting, that'd be great. (I'll try to curb my tendency to ask excessive questions.) Take Care, Dudley What I would fix: 1. The chromatic aberration at the edge of the field. 2. The crooked horizon. 3. The neon-green grass. 4. I'd probably go the opposite way on the contrast. Rather than HDR, I'd push the contrast to add some starkness to the image. Thanks, Rich, really glad you replied. I'll have to leave the chromatic aberration for the time being, as it's beyond my current abilities... but, that's something that's always lurking in the back of my mind. the neon grass, it sounds like I pushed the mid-tones a bit too far, so I'll try backing that off a bit and try for a more neutral colour. Your last point actually tells me the most, in that I had pushed the contrast of each of the original images about 20 points on the contrast slider in Camera RAW. It's interesting that the merge seems to have killed that bump... The stark look is what I was shooting for, hence the weeds in the foreground, etc... I had also added a bit of sharpening with the aim of getting a contrasty, grainy look. Once again, thanks for the reply. I'm going to have to ponder this for a while. Take Care, Dudley |
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On 2013-06-23 21:09:42 -0700, "Dudley Hanks" said:
"Savageduck" wrote in message news:2013062320224237709-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom... On 2013-06-23 19:21:44 -0700, "Dudley Hanks" said: Ok, now that I've got that communications glitch straightened out, I think I was able to put together the image I was shooting for. http://www.blind-apertures.ca/pics/Landscape.jpg It's a quasiHDR image of the river valley, here in Edmonton. What do you mean by "quasiHDR"? Just that it's an attempt to compress a dynamic range my cam couldn't capture by using multiple exposures and merging them using the exposure merge feature in Elements. There is more to HDR than merging an exposure bracket set. Stacking those exposures will give you a blend. However, the dynamic range is not going to be expanded as evidenced in your result image. Five shots, ranging from -2 to +2 stops and combined using Elements 11. That is a start, but just combining the bracket set with PSE11 does not make it any sort of HDR. Your result is bland and no better than the WB problem shot, HDR doesn't really seem to be needed. If you are going to process the 5 shot bracket as an HDR you will need at a minimum the Photoshop "merge to HDR" feature or dedicated HDR software such as Photomatix or NIK HDR Efex Pro2. It's my understanding that HDR is simply a term used to describe the process used to compress a highly dynamic scene into colours / tones that can be reproduced in a single image. Am I missing something in this definition? An HDR image is the result of processing an HDR exposure bracket stack to capture a wider dynamic range than you would obtain in a "normal" exposure. Together with the merge, there are also tone-mapping, tonal contrast, saturation, and other tweeks to make it truly work right. If you care to post the 5 shots from your HDR bracket and I would be happy to see what I can get from them. This pic is just the end result of an exercise I undertook to help me understand an issue I'm systematically working through: to develop a process by which I can achieve results similar to those of a sighted photographer in settings whereby the lighting range exceeds the capability of my camera to capture it, and in which it is impractical to use an artificial means to smooth out the lighting curve (i.e. flash, reflectors, etc). ....and certainly true HDR processing can give you that type of solution. I suggest you get a trial of Photomatix or NIK HDR Efex Pro 2, so you can see what you can really do with those bracketed shots. More importantly HDR software can do a decent job of doing single exposure tone-mapping, which might be all you need. I understand that a few adjustments in Camera Raw to the shadows, highlights, whites, and blacks sliders, to name only a few, can do the same thing, Not quite. but it wouldn't tell me much about what kind of results can be achieved with the exposure merge feature. Exposure merge on its own is not the answer. Again, exposure merge is not HDR. It's not an attempt to produce a completed image for the sake of the image, just another step in the journey... After I feel more comfortable doing an exposure merge, I'll devote more time and energy to producing an actual HDR image. Take Care, Dudley -- Regards, Savageduck |
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"Dudley Hanks" wrote: Ok, now that I've got that communications glitch straightened out, I think I was able to put together the image I was shooting for. http://www.blind-apertures.ca/pics/Landscape.jpg It's a quasiHDR image of the river valley, here in Edmonton. Five shots, ranging from -2 to +2 stops and combined using Elements 11. If you feel like commenting, that'd be great. (I'll try to curb my tendency to ask excessive questions.) Take Care, Dudley As others have said, it's a bit bland. Since you were after some HDR effect, I made this: http://sandman.net/files/dudley_hanks.jpg Horizon straightened. Chromatic aberration fixed, sharpened, and HDR detail enhanced. -- Sandman[.net] |
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On 2013-06-23 22:10:56 -0700, Savageduck said:
On 2013-06-23 21:09:42 -0700, "Dudley Hanks" said: "Savageduck" wrote in message news:2013062320224237709-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom... On 2013-06-23 19:21:44 -0700, "Dudley Hanks" said: Ok, now that I've got that communications glitch straightened out, I think I was able to put together the image I was shooting for. http://www.blind-apertures.ca/pics/Landscape.jpg It's a quasiHDR image of the river valley, here in Edmonton. What do you mean by "quasiHDR"? Just that it's an attempt to compress a dynamic range my cam couldn't capture by using multiple exposures and merging them using the exposure merge feature in Elements. There is more to HDR than merging an exposure bracket set. Stacking those exposures will give you a blend. However, the dynamic range is not going to be expanded as evidenced in your result image. Five shots, ranging from -2 to +2 stops and combined using Elements 11. That is a start, but just combining the bracket set with PSE11 does not make it any sort of HDR. Your result is bland and no better than the WB problem shot, HDR doesn't really seem to be needed. If you are going to process the 5 shot bracket as an HDR you will need at a minimum the Photoshop "merge to HDR" feature or dedicated HDR software such as Photomatix or NIK HDR Efex Pro2. It's my understanding that HDR is simply a term used to describe the process used to compress a highly dynamic scene into colours / tones that can be reproduced in a single image. Am I missing something in this definition? An HDR image is the result of processing an HDR exposure bracket stack to capture a wider dynamic range than you would obtain in a "normal" exposure. Together with the merge, there are also tone-mapping, tonal contrast, saturation, and other tweeks to make it truly work right. If you care to post the 5 shots from your HDR bracket and I would be happy to see what I can get from them. This pic is just the end result of an exercise I undertook to help me understand an issue I'm systematically working through: to develop a process by which I can achieve results similar to those of a sighted photographer in settings whereby the lighting range exceeds the capability of my camera to capture it, and in which it is impractical to use an artificial means to smooth out the lighting curve (i.e. flash, reflectors, etc). ...and certainly true HDR processing can give you that type of solution. I suggest you get a trial of Photomatix or NIK HDR Efex Pro 2, so you can see what you can really do with those bracketed shots. More importantly HDR software can do a decent job of doing single exposure tone-mapping, which might be all you need. I understand that a few adjustments in Camera Raw to the shadows, highlights, whites, and blacks sliders, to name only a few, can do the same thing, Not quite. but it wouldn't tell me much about what kind of results can be achieved with the exposure merge feature. Exposure merge on its own is not the answer. Again, exposure merge is not HDR. It's not an attempt to produce a completed image for the sake of the image, just another step in the journey... After I feel more comfortable doing an exposure merge, I'll devote more time and energy to producing an actual HDR image. Take Care, Dudley Just to give you an idea of a single exposure tone map treatment here is your original compare with the result after a run through NIK HDR Efex Pro 2 for tone mapping, no exposure brackets used. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...enshot_241.jpg -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 24/06/2013 06:31, Sandman wrote:
[] As others have said, it's a bit bland. Since you were after some HDR effect, I made this: http://sandman.net/files/dudley_hanks.jpg Horizon straightened. Chromatic aberration fixed, sharpened, and HDR detail enhanced. ... for me, that's an example of everything which makes me /hate/ HDR. Absolutely awful. Something between that and your original bland and over-exposed image, if possible. -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu |
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